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With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!!

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  • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

    With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

    Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

    mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #62

    @taylorlorenz

    Institutions, companies, groups and organizations need to recognize that they can host their own social media instances, and thereby own their data and control their presence.

    This is difficult for them to grasp, because they are used to depending on a corporate intermediary, and entire industries are devoted to fostering this reliance.

    It's like telling a house cat they can be free and opening the door.

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    • anja@chaos.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #63

      @douglasthiel @taylorlorenz Agree, just think of what the prefix mast(o)- can remind female users of.

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      • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

        With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

        Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

        mamalake@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #64

        @taylorlorenz one of the big reasons people stay on corp(s) media is because they are running their businesses there. Small businesses, crafters etc make a ton of sales through tiktok/IG. Leaving their audience is akin to leaving their businesses. I love mastodon! But I can't sell anything without getting blocked or reported.

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        • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

          With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

          Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

          dmian@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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          #65

          @taylorlorenz A lot of good points here, so won’t repeat them. But to put it simple, and citing The Matrix, it’s a red pill, blue pill situation: red pill, you jump on the Fediverse, and take part in a new concept of social media. No corporations, no algorithm, no tracking, no centralized servers. Blue pill, you stay in corporate controlled land, with the algorithm and ad tracking cookies. You’ll keep yelling at bots and bigots. So, their choice.

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          • orionkidder@mas.toO orionkidder@mas.to

            @bitpickup @taylorlorenz "Refuse" implies she has a responsibility to do it, and I'm not seeing that as anyone's responsibility. Setting up an instance takes time, technical skill, and money. Nobody owes any of that to the world. I'm grateful to those who do, and I support them financially because it can, but that's all.

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            #66

            @OrionKidder
            > "Refuse" implies she has a responsibility to do it

            Implies it for you.
            That's fine with me.

            > Setting up an instance takes time

            Time is money.

            > technical skill,

            Not any more.

            > and money.

            Much less than you think.
            ~6 bucks a month is actually an amount of money anyone should be willing to spend to support, the ownership of your very own data, your re contacts, your independence an democracy itself.

            If freeriding suits you, that's your choice.

            @taylorlorenz

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            • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

              With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

              Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

              whiza@theforkiverse.comW This user is from outside of this forum
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              #67

              @taylorlorenz time and user counts. If more content creators swap it'll change the landscape a bit but also give it the cred.

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              • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                @T_X I also feel like it has, but it could also be that we've already driven too many people away?

                (Certainly hope that's not the case!)

                @taylorlorenz

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                #68

                @stefan
                You cannot monetize your work on the Fediverse the same way you can in Musk's "environment". Therefore this will likely remain a comparably small community.
                @T_X @taylorlorenz

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                • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                  With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                  Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                  bsm@swiss.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #69

                  @taylorlorenz People are too lazy and too comfortable, it's as simple as that.

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                  • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                    With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                    Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

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                    #70

                    @anja @taylorlorenz Advertising is the way. I didn't know about it until my brothers found out somehow, but its not like there's many advertisements for Mastodon like there is for Facebook.

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                    • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                      With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                      Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                      jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #71

                      @taylorlorenz

                      Inertia and uncertainty?

                      They are used to what they're currently doing and there's not enough public knowledge about Fediverse and Mastodon so they don't have an informed opinion.

                      I often tell people what I found on Mastodon and share articles and suggest that they join. They never do. All it took to get me on Mastodon was musk buying Twitter.

                      I've got friends who are far more progressive and leftist than me who are still using Facebook and Instagram. I get it. I gave up access to multiple artists whose work I enjoyed because I left Instagram. I have no idea what's happening with much of my extended family because I left Facebook. Some people are not willing to give it up.

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                      • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                        With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                        Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                        girlcnz@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @taylorlorenz new user here. i like it already lol.

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                        • orionkidder@mas.toO orionkidder@mas.to

                          @bitpickup @taylorlorenz "Refuse" implies she has a responsibility to do it, and I'm not seeing that as anyone's responsibility. Setting up an instance takes time, technical skill, and money. Nobody owes any of that to the world. I'm grateful to those who do, and I support them financially because it can, but that's all.

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                          #73

                          @OrionKidder
                          > Nobody owes any of that to the world.

                          The world doesn't owe to anyone anything.

                          You do not support free press, freedom of speech, a decentralized system, nor democracy itself by free riding on other peoples business models, or by recreating continuously dependency relationships with others who sooner or later will enshitify the setup and there for your life because you handed them that option in the first place by depending on them.

                          @taylorlorenz

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                          • orionkidder@mas.toO orionkidder@mas.to

                            @jsatk @taylorlorenz The signup contains a step that, while not actually difficult, is not presented in a way that's recognizable to users, and that's what makes it "hard." People are hesitant about the unfamiliar. There's a way to present that so it feels like tapping on icons that represent your interests or whatever. That's a "UX" issue that could be solved, IMO.

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                            #74

                            @OrionKidder @taylorlorenz I haven’t made a new account in awhile so I suspect you’re right. I do know the maintainers are very open to suggestions.

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                            • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                              With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                              Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                              haui@mastodon.giftedmc.comH This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @taylorlorenz
                              At this point? Fully automated migration. Let me explain:

                              - i want my aunt to join
                              - i send her an invite link over whatsapp (urgh)
                              - she gets the option to do full auto migration by providing her current profile link on facebook, twitter, instagram whatever

                              where applicable, also optional
                              - copies bio, nick, media
                              - crawls the profile, pulls contacts and suggests them on the fedi
                              - reposts x time of posts unlisted not to spam the local feed
                              - posts a link to new profile on fb

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                              • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                                Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                                floppa@fedi.catto.gardenF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #76
                                @taylorlorenz nyarrrr, maybe an idiot proof app would help?
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                                • mamalake@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #77

                                  @morgan @taylorlorenz some instances forbid sales, and many people just don't want to be advertised to.

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                                  • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                    With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                                    Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                                    nachtschicht@kirche.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #78

                                    @taylorlorenz

                                    Use it & Spread the word ✅

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                                    • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                      With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                                      Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                                      riccardomilan@mastodon.unoR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #79

                                      @taylorlorenz Very often, it's a matter of not knowing the platform and ignoring the benefits of a decentralized social network, without algorithms, advertising, or profiling, and above all, with a real chronological timeline. When people begin to understand this, they'll realize the benefits. It's just a matter of time.

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                                      • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                        With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                                        Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

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                                        amazing_joeyy@mastodon.social
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                                        @taylorlorenz I just joined and I have no idea what I’m doing. So, there’s that.

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                                        • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                          With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                                          Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                                          accordingtowouter@mastodon.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #81

                                          @taylorlorenz Perhaps nothing needs to be changed and Mastodon's strength lies precisely in its decentralised nature and the abundance of choice it offers. As the saying goes, good wine needs no bush. Slowly but surely, the number is growing.

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