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  3. With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!!

With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!!

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  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

    @ryanc @taylorlorenz im waiting for actual people who are visually impared to ask for it. because so far all the screaming is done by dipshits doing virtue signaling - and its those virtue signaling dipshits that are chasing people away

    they think theyre "helping".

    they arent.

    jima@mspsocial.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    @Viss @ryanc @taylorlorenz

    #BlindAltBot (@anantagd@ieji.de)

    I'm blind and for me alt text is the Big Special Thing about Mastodon. If someone posts a meme, I'm in on the joke. Someone shares beautifiul moss, or their cat, I'm in on the beauty or fun or whatever. I'm now 62, and this is the first time I entered a community and a culture where people grant me this kind of access and community. So grateful for people who do alt text.

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    ChanceyFleet (@ChanceyFleet@mas.to)

    As a Blind person i never thought i would be on social media savoring photos. But the communal Mastodon alt text game is so strong that sweet, poetic or silly descriptions abound on my timeline. Thanks to legions of people who take time to write a meaningful description of the ephemera they post, i learn so much about insects, plants, buildings, memes — all dispatches from a dimension of the world that i otherwise wouldn't experience. If you're wondering whether anybody reads these things: YES.

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    mas.to (mas.to)

    I didn't hunt those down, they were just in my retoots ("blind alt text in:library"), FWIW.

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    • jima@mspsocial.netJ jima@mspsocial.net

      @Viss @ryanc @taylorlorenz

      #BlindAltBot (@anantagd@ieji.de)

      I'm blind and for me alt text is the Big Special Thing about Mastodon. If someone posts a meme, I'm in on the joke. Someone shares beautifiul moss, or their cat, I'm in on the beauty or fun or whatever. I'm now 62, and this is the first time I entered a community and a culture where people grant me this kind of access and community. So grateful for people who do alt text.

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      ChanceyFleet (@ChanceyFleet@mas.to)

      As a Blind person i never thought i would be on social media savoring photos. But the communal Mastodon alt text game is so strong that sweet, poetic or silly descriptions abound on my timeline. Thanks to legions of people who take time to write a meaningful description of the ephemera they post, i learn so much about insects, plants, buildings, memes — all dispatches from a dimension of the world that i otherwise wouldn't experience. If you're wondering whether anybody reads these things: YES.

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      mas.to (mas.to)

      I didn't hunt those down, they were just in my retoots ("blind alt text in:library"), FWIW.

      viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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      @ryanc @taylorlorenz @jima pretty sure the various alt text bots werent around in 2024

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      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

        @ryanc @taylorlorenz @jima pretty sure the various alt text bots werent around in 2024

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        @ryanc @taylorlorenz @jima

        ChanceyFleet (@ChanceyFleet@mas.to)

        Blind people now have AI image description and these days a Blind person will send another Blind person just an AI description of a selfie, with no source photo. In the complex AI discourse i would just like to say that AI image description has changed the game for Blind folks. It's a hell of a ride at age 43 to read my first picture book and first graphic novel. AI is complicated but textualizing images is brilliant

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        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

          @ryanc @taylorlorenz @jima

          ChanceyFleet (@ChanceyFleet@mas.to)

          Blind people now have AI image description and these days a Blind person will send another Blind person just an AI description of a selfie, with no source photo. In the complex AI discourse i would just like to say that AI image description has changed the game for Blind folks. It's a hell of a ride at age 43 to read my first picture book and first graphic novel. AI is complicated but textualizing images is brilliant

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          jima@mspsocial.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          @Viss @ryanc @taylorlorenz @ChanceyFleet Cool! Thanks; I hadn't seen that development.

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          • jima@mspsocial.netJ jima@mspsocial.net

            @Viss @ryanc @taylorlorenz @ChanceyFleet Cool! Thanks; I hadn't seen that development.

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            @ryanc @taylorlorenz @ChanceyFleet @jima also i wrote a thing

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            GitHub - Viss/gptocr: a script that uses openai's gpt-4 preview to generate alt-text for images on mastodon

            a script that uses openai's gpt-4 preview to generate alt-text for images on mastodon - Viss/gptocr

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            • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

              With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

              Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

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              @taylorlorenz
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              • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

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                @taylorlorenz One big one:

                People want an app that gives them a sign-in right there, not an app that allows them to petition instances for an account.

                TBF that part is kinda fiddly, but we wouldn't be very defederated if everyone signs up on Mastodon dot social (which unfortunately most people do).

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                • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                  With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                  Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                  ianmoore3000@mastodon.ieI This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @taylorlorenz I think there is the perception that Mastodon is a bit difficult - the initial thing of having to pick an instance is a bit offputting.

                  But I suspect also that Mastodon having no company behind it means that there is no marketing department pushing it and that prevents people from being lured in.

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                  • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                    With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                    Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

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                    @taylorlorenz Ya probably the onboarding process, It’s cumbersome.

                    A few more celebrities onboarding and posting regularly would help.

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                    • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                      With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                      Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                      kuuraohto@meow.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @taylorlorenz The reason I’ve heard is that: "On Mastodon, servers can easily end up blacklisted" (if you run your own instance), and "users may be silenced for expressing different opinions".

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                        @MrLee @taylorlorenz Despite what you may believe, it is the number one most frequently cited objection I hear when introducing people to the fediverse.

                        Also, the other problem as I mentioned is the network effect. All their friends are in the corpo-controlled silos. We can have a technically better product, but if they can't reach the people they want to reach, it's kind of pointless.

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                        • hfinyow@mstdn.caH hfinyow@mstdn.ca

                          @erikcats @taylorlorenz and add geography/region to that list. I'm on an instance specific to Canada, mainly mstdn.ca. I've flirted with the idea of going over to ottawa.place but for now, I don't see a reason to move....I'm too casual a user of social media for the server I'm on to make a difference.

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                          @hfinyow @erikcats @taylorlorenz That does exist already just in different ways.

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                          Find where to sign up for the decentralized social network Mastodon.

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                          • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                            With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                            Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                            jill@mastodon.deJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @taylorlorenz Maybe by starting to talk to our friends offline again.

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                            • erikcats@dice.campE This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @jill @hfinyow @taylorlorenz 4x4x4x4x4

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                              • erikcats@dice.campE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @jill @hfinyow @taylorlorenz Neither you mine

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                                • jill@mastodon.deJ jill@mastodon.de

                                  @hfinyow @erikcats @taylorlorenz That does exist already just in different ways.

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                                  Servers

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                                  (joinmastodon.org)

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                                  Fedi.Garden – An easy way to join Mastodon and the Fediverse

                                  Highlighting nice servers on Mastodon and the Fediverse

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                                  (fedi.garden)

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                                  Learn about the fediverse and find your community.

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                                  We observe all Fediverse Sites. Find a Fediverse site to sign up for, find one close to you using a list, map or let us auto-pick one for you!

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                                  @jill @erikcats @taylorlorenz for those sufficiently motivated, this should be enough. I think I found my server through Twitter back before they started messing with the algorithm to suppress any Mastodon related posts.

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                                    @taylorlorenz quote posts

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                                    • bjn@mstdn.socialB bjn@mstdn.social

                                      @taylorlorenz There is also the problem of retaining people. @davidallengreen, a UK lawyer with solid takes on pretty much everything, just went on an extended fedi break because the purity police didn’t like him using substack and he got bored of the hassling. Lovely own goal reply guys, the only behaviour you changed was his posting on the fedi. This is a people issue not a tech issue, which I’m not quite sure how to get around. He’s not the only one either.

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                                      @bjn @taylorlorenz @davidallengreen I think @TechConnectify raised the point some time ago that mastodon simply doesn't have the moderation tools for popular accounts that large platforms like Twitter have.

                                      Mastodon needs to grow up from it's techy roots and start being far more pragmatic about supporting people, especially the sort of popular people who drive interest in joining the platform. Federation is grand and all but making something that isn't painful to use for key users is important.

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                                      • bjn@mstdn.socialB bjn@mstdn.social

                                        @taylorlorenz There is also the problem of retaining people. @davidallengreen, a UK lawyer with solid takes on pretty much everything, just went on an extended fedi break because the purity police didn’t like him using substack and he got bored of the hassling. Lovely own goal reply guys, the only behaviour you changed was his posting on the fedi. This is a people issue not a tech issue, which I’m not quite sure how to get around. He’s not the only one either.

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                                        @bjn @taylorlorenz @davidallengreen I did mention this out at the time but apparently that also makes me a "scold". Apparently hounding people is fine if you don't agree with their choices of technology.

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                                        • bjn@mstdn.socialB bjn@mstdn.social

                                          @taylorlorenz There is also the problem of retaining people. @davidallengreen, a UK lawyer with solid takes on pretty much everything, just went on an extended fedi break because the purity police didn’t like him using substack and he got bored of the hassling. Lovely own goal reply guys, the only behaviour you changed was his posting on the fedi. This is a people issue not a tech issue, which I’m not quite sure how to get around. He’s not the only one either.

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                                          @bjn
                                          Fuck the Nazi Bar that is Substack. Fuck collaborators.

                                          @taylorlorenz @davidallengreen

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