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With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!!

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  • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

    With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

    Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

    aaron@social.aaroncrocco.comA This user is from outside of this forum
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    @taylorlorenz @hpod16 "Normals" simply don't care. Unless there’s a massive culture shift toward Mastodon, people won't leave other networks because it's less painful to stay than it is to change. This is the crux of every psychological decision ever.

    People just need to give it a try and see for themselves, but that's a big ask.

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    • hfinyow@mstdn.caH hfinyow@mstdn.ca

      @taylorlorenz one thing, the decentralized nature means there is perhaps too much choice. Do you get an account on mastodon.social, mstdn.ca, mastodon.com, tusky.whatever.... And also what app do you use to access it? When there was Twitter, there was one official app. With Mastodon, there are a multitude. Sometimes too much choice is counterproductive.

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      #378

      @hfinyow @taylorlorenz There is a Mastodon app though. I'm on it atm. Just not one Fediverse app. Or am I mistaken?

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      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

        @bovaz @aurochs

        For one thing, if your app is popular it can be because the UI is easy to use and the design is excellent.

        Equally important? You can only build diverse, resilient communities if you can bring a wide range of users together. That cross-pollination between otherwise desperate communities is the magic of social media for me.

        I often call the fedi "a nice college town" and it even has an HOA (an HOA that gets huffy and offended if you point out they are acting like an HOA)

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        @futurebird My personal reason for wishing Mastodon was more popular is I believe we could maybe bring people back from the brainwashing-mashines. Sadly those who need it the most are addicted to being spoon-fed with brain-rot I believe. @bovaz @aurochs

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        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

          @ryanc @taylorlorenz im waiting for actual people who are visually impared to ask for it. because so far all the screaming is done by dipshits doing virtue signaling - and its those virtue signaling dipshits that are chasing people away

          they think theyre "helping".

          they arent.

          jima@mspsocial.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          @Viss @ryanc @taylorlorenz

          #BlindAltBot (@anantagd@ieji.de)

          I'm blind and for me alt text is the Big Special Thing about Mastodon. If someone posts a meme, I'm in on the joke. Someone shares beautifiul moss, or their cat, I'm in on the beauty or fun or whatever. I'm now 62, and this is the first time I entered a community and a culture where people grant me this kind of access and community. So grateful for people who do alt text.

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          ChanceyFleet (@ChanceyFleet@mas.to)

          As a Blind person i never thought i would be on social media savoring photos. But the communal Mastodon alt text game is so strong that sweet, poetic or silly descriptions abound on my timeline. Thanks to legions of people who take time to write a meaningful description of the ephemera they post, i learn so much about insects, plants, buildings, memes — all dispatches from a dimension of the world that i otherwise wouldn't experience. If you're wondering whether anybody reads these things: YES.

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          mas.to (mas.to)

          I didn't hunt those down, they were just in my retoots ("blind alt text in:library"), FWIW.

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          • jima@mspsocial.netJ jima@mspsocial.net

            @Viss @ryanc @taylorlorenz

            #BlindAltBot (@anantagd@ieji.de)

            I'm blind and for me alt text is the Big Special Thing about Mastodon. If someone posts a meme, I'm in on the joke. Someone shares beautifiul moss, or their cat, I'm in on the beauty or fun or whatever. I'm now 62, and this is the first time I entered a community and a culture where people grant me this kind of access and community. So grateful for people who do alt text.

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            ChanceyFleet (@ChanceyFleet@mas.to)

            As a Blind person i never thought i would be on social media savoring photos. But the communal Mastodon alt text game is so strong that sweet, poetic or silly descriptions abound on my timeline. Thanks to legions of people who take time to write a meaningful description of the ephemera they post, i learn so much about insects, plants, buildings, memes — all dispatches from a dimension of the world that i otherwise wouldn't experience. If you're wondering whether anybody reads these things: YES.

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            mas.to (mas.to)

            I didn't hunt those down, they were just in my retoots ("blind alt text in:library"), FWIW.

            viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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            @ryanc @taylorlorenz @jima pretty sure the various alt text bots werent around in 2024

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            • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

              @ryanc @taylorlorenz @jima pretty sure the various alt text bots werent around in 2024

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              @ryanc @taylorlorenz @jima

              ChanceyFleet (@ChanceyFleet@mas.to)

              Blind people now have AI image description and these days a Blind person will send another Blind person just an AI description of a selfie, with no source photo. In the complex AI discourse i would just like to say that AI image description has changed the game for Blind folks. It's a hell of a ride at age 43 to read my first picture book and first graphic novel. AI is complicated but textualizing images is brilliant

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              • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                @ryanc @taylorlorenz @jima

                ChanceyFleet (@ChanceyFleet@mas.to)

                Blind people now have AI image description and these days a Blind person will send another Blind person just an AI description of a selfie, with no source photo. In the complex AI discourse i would just like to say that AI image description has changed the game for Blind folks. It's a hell of a ride at age 43 to read my first picture book and first graphic novel. AI is complicated but textualizing images is brilliant

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                jima@mspsocial.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                @Viss @ryanc @taylorlorenz @ChanceyFleet Cool! Thanks; I hadn't seen that development.

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                • jima@mspsocial.netJ jima@mspsocial.net

                  @Viss @ryanc @taylorlorenz @ChanceyFleet Cool! Thanks; I hadn't seen that development.

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                  @ryanc @taylorlorenz @ChanceyFleet @jima also i wrote a thing

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                  GitHub - Viss/gptocr: a script that uses openai's gpt-4 preview to generate alt-text for images on mastodon

                  a script that uses openai's gpt-4 preview to generate alt-text for images on mastodon - Viss/gptocr

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                  • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                    With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                    Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

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                    • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                      With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                      Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                      androcat@toot.catA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @taylorlorenz One big one:

                      People want an app that gives them a sign-in right there, not an app that allows them to petition instances for an account.

                      TBF that part is kinda fiddly, but we wouldn't be very defederated if everyone signs up on Mastodon dot social (which unfortunately most people do).

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                      • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                        With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                        Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                        ianmoore3000@mastodon.ieI This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #387

                        @taylorlorenz I think there is the perception that Mastodon is a bit difficult - the initial thing of having to pick an instance is a bit offputting.

                        But I suspect also that Mastodon having no company behind it means that there is no marketing department pushing it and that prevents people from being lured in.

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                        • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                          With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                          Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                          muiris@mastodon.ieM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @taylorlorenz Ya probably the onboarding process, It’s cumbersome.

                          A few more celebrities onboarding and posting regularly would help.

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                          • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                            With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                            Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                            kuuraohto@meow.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @taylorlorenz The reason I’ve heard is that: "On Mastodon, servers can easily end up blacklisted" (if you run your own instance), and "users may be silenced for expressing different opinions".

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                              @MrLee @taylorlorenz Despite what you may believe, it is the number one most frequently cited objection I hear when introducing people to the fediverse.

                              Also, the other problem as I mentioned is the network effect. All their friends are in the corpo-controlled silos. We can have a technically better product, but if they can't reach the people they want to reach, it's kind of pointless.

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                              • hfinyow@mstdn.caH hfinyow@mstdn.ca

                                @erikcats @taylorlorenz and add geography/region to that list. I'm on an instance specific to Canada, mainly mstdn.ca. I've flirted with the idea of going over to ottawa.place but for now, I don't see a reason to move....I'm too casual a user of social media for the server I'm on to make a difference.

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                                @hfinyow @erikcats @taylorlorenz That does exist already just in different ways.

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                                • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                  With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                                  Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                                  jill@mastodon.deJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @taylorlorenz Maybe by starting to talk to our friends offline again.

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                                    @jill @hfinyow @taylorlorenz 4x4x4x4x4

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                                      @jill @hfinyow @taylorlorenz Neither you mine

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                                      • jill@mastodon.deJ jill@mastodon.de

                                        @hfinyow @erikcats @taylorlorenz That does exist already just in different ways.

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                                        @jill @erikcats @taylorlorenz for those sufficiently motivated, this should be enough. I think I found my server through Twitter back before they started messing with the algorithm to suppress any Mastodon related posts.

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