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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 03 - 18 Feb - Ravières - Dijon - Culmont Chalindrey - Paris – Genève

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    Rail in Germany: we have a solid idea about what trains we’d like to run, we welcome people taking them. But it might all break down because we didn’t invest

    Rail in France: why would you possibly take a train other than between big cities? And the state knows better than you do when you want to go, and where. And in fact it’d all work better if you just drove instead. But if you do get a ticket to go, you will get a seat

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    @jon but if you didn't plan far enough ahead, there may be no seats left so you can't go...

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      @wnd Outside Ile de France it’s MUCH worse in France than Germany. I think it’s worse here than the UK too.

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      @jon in France I have only spent time in Ile de France and Hauts-de-France and was pleasantly surprised. Even if the UBahn in Lille has rubber tyres. But this is very much observer bias on my part.

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      • wnd@fosstodon.orgW wnd@fosstodon.org

        @jon in France I have only spent time in Ile de France and Hauts-de-France and was pleasantly surprised. Even if the UBahn in Lille has rubber tyres. But this is very much observer bias on my part.

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        @wnd Hauts de France is trying. It’s one of the better Régions.

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          Rail in Germany: we have a solid idea about what trains we’d like to run, we welcome people taking them. But it might all break down because we didn’t invest

          Rail in France: why would you possibly take a train other than between big cities? And the state knows better than you do when you want to go, and where. And in fact it’d all work better if you just drove instead. But if you do get a ticket to go, you will get a seat

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          @jon

          On point, unfortunately.

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            Rail in Germany: we have a solid idea about what trains we’d like to run, we welcome people taking them. But it might all break down because we didn’t invest

            Rail in France: why would you possibly take a train other than between big cities? And the state knows better than you do when you want to go, and where. And in fact it’d all work better if you just drove instead. But if you do get a ticket to go, you will get a seat

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            @jon Regional trains, the unloved child between bullet trains and urban trains...

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            • suihkulokki@society.oftrolls.comS suihkulokki@society.oftrolls.com

              @jon Regional trains, the unloved child between bullet trains and urban trains...

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              #99

              @suihkulokki not sure the urban trains get much love either tbh!

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                Rail in Germany: we have a solid idea about what trains we’d like to run, we welcome people taking them. But it might all break down because we didn’t invest

                Rail in France: why would you possibly take a train other than between big cities? And the state knows better than you do when you want to go, and where. And in fact it’d all work better if you just drove instead. But if you do get a ticket to go, you will get a seat

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                @jon

                Taking a TER tomorrow, Strasbourg to Colmar. 30min, 6€. My ticket tariff binds me to that specific train. Gah!

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                • knud@mastodon.socialK knud@mastodon.social

                  @jon

                  Taking a TER tomorrow, Strasbourg to Colmar. 30min, 6€. My ticket tariff binds me to that specific train. Gah!

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                  #101

                  @knud that line has a Taktfahrplan. You can’t complain there! 😀

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    @knud that line has a Taktfahrplan. You can’t complain there! 😀

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                    @jon

                    I'm German, of course I can complain! 😉

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                    • knud@mastodon.socialK knud@mastodon.social

                      @jon

                      I'm German, of course I can complain! 😉

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                      #103

                      @knud there’ll be so much grime on the windows you can’t look out though

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        Rail in Germany: we have a solid idea about what trains we’d like to run, we welcome people taking them. But it might all break down because we didn’t invest

                        Rail in France: why would you possibly take a train other than between big cities? And the state knows better than you do when you want to go, and where. And in fact it’d all work better if you just drove instead. But if you do get a ticket to go, you will get a seat

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                        #104

                        @jon The SNCF just hates the train and everybody taking it, so they try really hard to make it a really bad experience.

                        For me, the main problem is that they just don't give a s**t if you arrive or not when your train has a problem: Train complet, you can't just upgrade, you can't just downgrade, no replacement transport,...
                        Zero trust in them! 😖

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          I’m too German. I can’t tolerate this sort of bullshit

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                          #105

                          @jon The funny thing is: sometimes traveling is the best method to discover your own culture.

                          I was 15 when my parents shipped me to a developing country in Central America. I learned a lot about my culture by living in a completely different one.

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            Rail in Germany: we have a solid idea about what trains we’d like to run, we welcome people taking them. But it might all break down because we didn’t invest

                            Rail in France: why would you possibly take a train other than between big cities? And the state knows better than you do when you want to go, and where. And in fact it’d all work better if you just drove instead. But if you do get a ticket to go, you will get a seat

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                            @jon I MUCH prefer the German way

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