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I do not think Americans realise the far reaching economic consequences of having elected Donald Trump.

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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

    I do not think Americans realise the far reaching economic consequences of having elected Donald Trump.

    While the Danes have elected a new parliament which may push for less military purchases from the U.S., the citizens of Denmark have now presented two new citizen petitions: One requiring parliament to make it illegal to use Peter Thiel's Palantir AI surveilance software, and another one preventing the use of American technologies in our national health systems.

    Welcome to the Trump economy.

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    @randahl
    Hoppas Sverige följer Danmark i detta och gör samma.

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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      I do not think Americans realise the far reaching economic consequences of having elected Donald Trump.

      While the Danes have elected a new parliament which may push for less military purchases from the U.S., the citizens of Denmark have now presented two new citizen petitions: One requiring parliament to make it illegal to use Peter Thiel's Palantir AI surveilance software, and another one preventing the use of American technologies in our national health systems.

      Welcome to the Trump economy.

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      @randahl yes please, stop using these American companies while we work on this issue. We'll get back to you in a few years. Thanks!

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      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

        I do not think Americans realise the far reaching economic consequences of having elected Donald Trump.

        While the Danes have elected a new parliament which may push for less military purchases from the U.S., the citizens of Denmark have now presented two new citizen petitions: One requiring parliament to make it illegal to use Peter Thiel's Palantir AI surveilance software, and another one preventing the use of American technologies in our national health systems.

        Welcome to the Trump economy.

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        #82

        @randahl
        actually... "I do not think Americans realise the far reaching ....consequences of (fill in the blank) "

        is actually way more accurate for about 90% of the population. 😞

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        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

          I do not think Americans realise the far reaching economic consequences of having elected Donald Trump.

          While the Danes have elected a new parliament which may push for less military purchases from the U.S., the citizens of Denmark have now presented two new citizen petitions: One requiring parliament to make it illegal to use Peter Thiel's Palantir AI surveilance software, and another one preventing the use of American technologies in our national health systems.

          Welcome to the Trump economy.

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          #83

          @randahl I don't know how many do or don't, though it's obviously nowhere near enough.

          But the damage is real, and that's what matters most right now. The political effects must follow, sooner or later, and I fear later is more likely. Nevertheless, they will come.

          Most Americans are probably unaware of how dependent we are on the rest of the world sending money to us. So stop. Stop buying our stuff. Stop helping our companies make money. DIVEST.

          Those losses cannot be hidden.

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          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

            I do not think Americans realise the far reaching economic consequences of having elected Donald Trump.

            While the Danes have elected a new parliament which may push for less military purchases from the U.S., the citizens of Denmark have now presented two new citizen petitions: One requiring parliament to make it illegal to use Peter Thiel's Palantir AI surveilance software, and another one preventing the use of American technologies in our national health systems.

            Welcome to the Trump economy.

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            @randahl

            I always feel a great deal of hope when I can see the public in a nation, put an end to obvious plutocratic tyranny

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            • hvanleeuwen@mastodon.socialH hvanleeuwen@mastodon.social

              @randahl https://mastodon.social/@hvanleeuwen/116311748816975025

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              @hvanleeuwen @randahl

              I think the most powerful or one of the most powerful statements that can be made against the act of the United States end of Israel by the way is to remove all sanctions against Iran.

              Iran doesn’t want to be colonized or run by a puppet regime. They could’ve chosen to go completely nuclear on the regional powers and prevented all food deliveries through the straight. They aren’t doing that, but they could.

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              • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                @hvanleeuwen @randahl

                I think the most powerful or one of the most powerful statements that can be made against the act of the United States end of Israel by the way is to remove all sanctions against Iran.

                Iran doesn’t want to be colonized or run by a puppet regime. They could’ve chosen to go completely nuclear on the regional powers and prevented all food deliveries through the straight. They aren’t doing that, but they could.

                1/2

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                @hvanleeuwen @randahl

                This is a demonstration of the fundamental military strategy of never driving your enemy someplace where they don’t have an escape hatch.

                If it’s a matter of life and death, and there’s no way to escape people will fight absolutely to the death rather than flee. They have no choice.

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                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                  I do not think Americans realise the far reaching economic consequences of having elected Donald Trump.

                  While the Danes have elected a new parliament which may push for less military purchases from the U.S., the citizens of Denmark have now presented two new citizen petitions: One requiring parliament to make it illegal to use Peter Thiel's Palantir AI surveilance software, and another one preventing the use of American technologies in our national health systems.

                  Welcome to the Trump economy.

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                  @randahl wish we did the same here in Germany

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                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                    I do not think Americans realise the far reaching economic consequences of having elected Donald Trump.

                    While the Danes have elected a new parliament which may push for less military purchases from the U.S., the citizens of Denmark have now presented two new citizen petitions: One requiring parliament to make it illegal to use Peter Thiel's Palantir AI surveilance software, and another one preventing the use of American technologies in our national health systems.

                    Welcome to the Trump economy.

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                    #88

                    I do not think Americans realise, period.

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                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                      I do not think Americans realise the far reaching economic consequences of having elected Donald Trump.

                      While the Danes have elected a new parliament which may push for less military purchases from the U.S., the citizens of Denmark have now presented two new citizen petitions: One requiring parliament to make it illegal to use Peter Thiel's Palantir AI surveilance software, and another one preventing the use of American technologies in our national health systems.

                      Welcome to the Trump economy.

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                      @randahl In the Netherlands the parlement wants to stop the takeover by an American company of a supplier that delivers services to the digital identity system.
                      An I hope they will do so

                      Switzerland who has order F-35, has delivery problems and payment issues, as the US is forcing them to pay terms even so they do not deliver...

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                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                        I do not think Americans realise the far reaching economic consequences of having elected Donald Trump.

                        While the Danes have elected a new parliament which may push for less military purchases from the U.S., the citizens of Denmark have now presented two new citizen petitions: One requiring parliament to make it illegal to use Peter Thiel's Palantir AI surveilance software, and another one preventing the use of American technologies in our national health systems.

                        Welcome to the Trump economy.

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                        @randahl Denmark sets a good example for all of us - I wish Canada would follow suit.

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                        • paladin@mastodon.nuP paladin@mastodon.nu

                          @paulschoe @Nigel_Lake @randahl Harder to change from using an agent to help me with code in Visual Studio Code having plugins to Azure and Claude Coude.

                          Replacing all the services in Azure will take so much time.

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                          @Paladin @paulschoe @Nigel_Lake @randahl As we say in France, Rome was not build in one day.
                          We have to start somewhere.

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                          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                            I do not think Americans realise the far reaching economic consequences of having elected Donald Trump.

                            While the Danes have elected a new parliament which may push for less military purchases from the U.S., the citizens of Denmark have now presented two new citizen petitions: One requiring parliament to make it illegal to use Peter Thiel's Palantir AI surveilance software, and another one preventing the use of American technologies in our national health systems.

                            Welcome to the Trump economy.

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                            @randahl they're self centered idiots.. they dont care.

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                            • jstark@tweesecake.socialJ jstark@tweesecake.social

                              @apnoe_soeren @randahl that is so unrealistic

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                              @jstark @randahl Why? I use none of them.

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                              • thedutchchief@mstdn.socialT thedutchchief@mstdn.social

                                @gailen I think no Europeans blame you, we see the massa protests, I know a lot of nice Americans, but we have to defend European values. @randahl

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                                @TheDutchChief
                                I honestly encourage that. The US needs to be ostracized until we get our affairs in order.
                                @randahl

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                                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                  I do not think Americans realise the far reaching economic consequences of having elected Donald Trump.

                                  While the Danes have elected a new parliament which may push for less military purchases from the U.S., the citizens of Denmark have now presented two new citizen petitions: One requiring parliament to make it illegal to use Peter Thiel's Palantir AI surveilance software, and another one preventing the use of American technologies in our national health systems.

                                  Welcome to the Trump economy.

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                                  @randahl watch what we do come November elections here in the US. 😊 It's about to get ugly for the Fascists and Oligarchs here. 😄

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                                  • brokar@mastodon.socialB brokar@mastodon.social

                                    @randahl Germany has not yet come that far. They're still considering mass surveillance and use of Palantir etc., even though the EU courts have ruled multiple times already that mass surveillance and storage of said data is illegal. But they don't stop pushing. Both major parties, CDU/CSU and SPD. They really think they can solve crime with a mouse click and AI.
                                    Hopeless.
                                    And the dumb herd still votes for them every 4 years when they don't vote for the Nazis.
                                    I hope Denmark will set standards.

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                                    @Brokar @randahl oh they definitely don’t think it’ll solve crime lol. that’s just the excuse they’re using to trojan horse this shit into society

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                                    • olivierburnier@mastodon.socialO olivierburnier@mastodon.social

                                      @Paladin @paulschoe @Nigel_Lake @randahl As we say in France, Rome was not build in one day.
                                      We have to start somewhere.

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                                      @OlivierBurnier @paulschoe @Nigel_Lake @randahl Oh yes, but I expect a timespan well over a decade.

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                                      • connynasch@mastodon.socialC connynasch@mastodon.social

                                        @Nigel_Lake thank you for the Chinese info, I had not been aware of that, even though it is perfectly logical. They are on the way to becoming the next "soft power" replacing what the Mango Mussolini has destroyed.

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                                        @connynasch I never cease to be unsurprised by how far ahead the Chinese think...

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                                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                          I do not think Americans realise the far reaching economic consequences of having elected Donald Trump.

                                          While the Danes have elected a new parliament which may push for less military purchases from the U.S., the citizens of Denmark have now presented two new citizen petitions: One requiring parliament to make it illegal to use Peter Thiel's Palantir AI surveilance software, and another one preventing the use of American technologies in our national health systems.

                                          Welcome to the Trump economy.

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                                          @randahl Switzerland is now refusing to sell arms to the US and forbid flights of American fighters over its skies. We're however still buying F35 jets and patriot systems from the US, because they were already partially paid, but most people regret this choice. We never had kings in Switzerland and we'll never have.

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