I’ve just learned that apparently some Canadians call their winter hats “toboggans”.

[tankgrrl@hachyderm.io]

@gedeonm @ashkendo I must come to Ash's defense. Where I was born they also called a knitted cap a toboggan.

[ashkendo@mastodon.social]

@gedeonm well, then!!! I’m just going to put on my toboggan and ride my sled out of here.

[cstamp@mastodon.social]

@gedeonm @ashkendo This goes into more detail. "The word "toboggan," which many associate with a sled, actually dates back to the 1820s as a French-Canadian adaptation of an Algonquian word, possibly Mi'kmaq or Abenaki, that described a type of sled. Over time, especially in the southern U.S. where snow is scarce, the connection between "toboggan" and "sled" faded, leaving "toboggan" to primarily refer to a wool hat."

Anyway, that was an unexpected rabbit hole.

The difference between beanie, toboggan and touque - Knowledge

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[ashkendo@mastodon.social]

@gedeonm @CStamp There are many things we shouldn’t be allowed to name but this is one of the few things (along with the “trunk” is the compartment at the back of a car) I’ll stick up for.

[msh@coales.co]

@gedeonm you have been misinformed. I am a lifelong Canadian born to lifelong Canadians and none of us at all have ever heard of toques being called toboggans by Canadians before.

[ashkendo@mastodon.social]

@CStamp @gedeonm This reminds me of the discussions I had when I went to school in Boston about how we all referred to soda. Everybody from the various regions all had a different word. Soft drinks, soda, tonic, coke (as a generic term); but everybody laughed at the guy who called it “pop”.

[gedeonm@mastodon.social]

What do you consider a “toboggan”?

[tankgrrl@hachyderm.io]

@ashkendo @gedeonm also, where I was born is not very far from where Ged lives.

[cakemix@mas.to]

@gedeonm I’m voting from my local Canadian embassy as we speak. Going to give them a piece of my mind.

[cstamp@mastodon.social]

@ashkendo @gedeonm I think pop is the most common word in Canada. The only folk I've ever heard use soda were Americans.

[ryanbooker@mastodon.social]

@gedeonm this toot sleighs.

[ashkendo@mastodon.social]

@tankgrrl @gedeonm I’m in central/eastern NC right along I-95. Born just a bit more north (but still in NC).

[gedeonm@mastodon.social]

@msh I’M CANADIAN! My entire father’s side is French Canadian and I’ve also never heard of anyone calling a hat a toboggan until today.

Apparently some do however, maybe they moved there from the southern United States where apparently it was adopted the name for a knit winter hat.

I’m stupified by all of this, truly.

[gedeonm@mastodon.social]

@ashkendo @CStamp Don’t get me started on soda. Or subs/hero/grinders. Ooh boy.

[ashkendo@mastodon.social]

@CStamp @gedeonm When I was a kid “soft drink” was the most used term in the area. I think “soda” or “coke” (as a generic term) has become the most popular now.

[cstamp@mastodon.social]

@gedeonm @ashkendo Grinders? I've only recently heard of heros and hogies.

[jwisser@wandering.shop]

@gedeonm If it helps, the hat gets its name from the sled. That is, it is literally a type of hat suitable for use while tobogganing.

[gedeonm@mastodon.social]

@CStamp @ashkendo Yep, growing up grinders were sub-like sandwiches we had at school. This was in New England so it’s a distinctly regional name.

[cstamp@mastodon.social]

@gedeonm @ashkendo Ok, so... "The grinder sandwich, a beloved staple of delis & lunch counters across the US, derives its name from a simple, yet practical source: the hefty bread required to contain its generous fillings. Initially, the name referenced the robust, often Italian-style, crusty bread that required significant “grinding” or chewing. Over time, the name stuck, becoming synonymous with the substantial and satisfying sandwich itself."

Live and learn.

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[bigzaphod@mastodon.social]

@CStamp @ashkendo @gedeonm in Iowa that style of hat with the ball on it was usually called a stocking cap by everyone I knew.