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I don't think people fully appreciate how apocalyptic things are for US science.

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  • kitkat_blue@mastodon.socialK kitkat_blue@mastodon.social

    @davidho

    This is what happens when you live under a regime that shuns anyone smarter than they are...

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    @kitkat_blue @davidho Which more or equals, well, anyone.

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    • rapsneezy@mastodon.socialR rapsneezy@mastodon.social

      @davidho

      I'm looking forward to the science centre of gravity moving away from the USA - and hopefully past Europe towards the East and South.

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      @rapsneezy @davidho some European countries made a big deal of setting up money to attract Us scientists, but then cut their overall funding. E.g. France set up a €500 million fund but then cut by €1 billion. I have been very disappointed by their response, the EU could easily take up the slack from USAID cuts too, set up a program with fairer terms and start to make up for colonialism, but no it’s too expensive apparently (it’s not). Oh well China it is then.

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        @rapsneezy @davidho some European countries made a big deal of setting up money to attract Us scientists, but then cut their overall funding. E.g. France set up a €500 million fund but then cut by €1 billion. I have been very disappointed by their response, the EU could easily take up the slack from USAID cuts too, set up a program with fairer terms and start to make up for colonialism, but no it’s too expensive apparently (it’s not). Oh well China it is then.

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        @Nicovel0 @rapsneezy @davidho

        Just to be sure: You do know that the EU international aid was significantly more than what the US donated, even before Trump came into office, right? It's not like we are doing nothing.

        I can't remember the exact numbers, but it was something like 55/45, with the most aid coming from the EU.

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        • davidho@mastodon.worldD davidho@mastodon.world

          I don't think people fully appreciate how apocalyptic things are for US science. I haven't received any new funding since 2024, but I'm still ok since grants are typically for 3 years. This means next year I will be completely out of funding and will have to fire everyone in the lab. It's not great.

          In my 25-year career, I’ve never NOT had funding. I typically have 4 to 8 grants, which you need if you’re running an observation science program and have a technician, students, and postdocs.

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          @davidho that is intentional.

          • #Fascism is always #antiintellectual and #antiintellectualism is part of #christofascism in particular.
            • Becasue #academia is interested in #facts and the #truth, and not some post-factual bs the #fascists peddle...

          Consider moving your research overseas if possible.

          • Many researchers already left the #US for the #EU, and I'm shure you'll likely find someone willing to take a look at your CV at say @DeutscherWetterdienst 's climate research labs ...
            • I mean, I refered some radio astronomer from NRAO who's position got cut to get in touch with the MPIfR. Not shure if he's with them now...

          #USA #USpol #EUpol

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          • davidho@mastodon.worldD davidho@mastodon.world

            I don't think people fully appreciate how apocalyptic things are for US science. I haven't received any new funding since 2024, but I'm still ok since grants are typically for 3 years. This means next year I will be completely out of funding and will have to fire everyone in the lab. It's not great.

            In my 25-year career, I’ve never NOT had funding. I typically have 4 to 8 grants, which you need if you’re running an observation science program and have a technician, students, and postdocs.

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            @davidho this is one of the reasons BIML is set up as a 501(c)3

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            • madsenandersc@social.vivaldi.netM madsenandersc@social.vivaldi.net

              @Nicovel0 @rapsneezy @davidho

              Just to be sure: You do know that the EU international aid was significantly more than what the US donated, even before Trump came into office, right? It's not like we are doing nothing.

              I can't remember the exact numbers, but it was something like 55/45, with the most aid coming from the EU.

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              @madsenandersc @rapsneezy @davidho it was, and European countries then followed Trump in cutting foreign aid instead of stepping up. The U.K. (not EU I know) cut it to iirc 0.4 or 0.5% of GDP.
              And then when china steps in we’ll again get handwringing headlines about their expanding influence.

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