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Harry Potter and the Jesus Christ You're Still Into That, What the Fuck

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  • suetanvil@freeradical.zoneS suetanvil@freeradical.zone

    @sounddrill @xyhhx @jalefkowit

    The artist is not the art is not the fandom. You can like horrible peoples' work without condoning the author. (Or, as someone on here put, Rowling is a horrible person who did one good thing.)

    In any case, I don't think it's a moral failing to like HP, as long as you're not *paying* for it.

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    @suetanvil @sounddrill @xyhhx @jalefkowit Nope. Here is a good explanation: https://disabled.social/@Aaidanbird/116294513543754105

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      @licho @sounddrill @jalefkowit
      The notion that we are supposed to keep friends with people who have awful wiews is very bothering to me. When their wievs become too awful to tolerate? What do they need to do in order for us to say "enough"? How can I keep friends with someone who hurts me or my friends? Or even strangers?

      I had a friend once, he used to be very conservative politically and we quarreled about that a lot. At some point he decided to join an anti-refugee march in my hometown. At the same time, he kept friendly relationship with another friend's boyfriend, who happened to be a refugee.
      Is this enough? He was nice to this guy, so maybe the nazi march was just something I should glance over?

      I had another friend, a very close friend. Las Spring she went for a volunteering gig to Israel, to help some farmer pick strawberries, because his three sons were in the army. So, what to do? Are these views awful enough to say goodbye? Or should I disregard the fact that she went to help some guy, because people who should have helped him, were away, killing innocent babies?

      And should I keep close to my uncle, who's homophobic and transphobic, but he cried happy tears when he saw me after many years in another country? He's after all my closest relative on the side of my deceased father. And he loves me, clearly he loves me so much, the only thing I need to do is pretend that he's just a guy, just my uncle, who never does anyone any harm, but taught his two sons to hate LGBT+ people?

      Sorry for the rant, but see - these are just normal people. They never harmed anybody, they're nice and all. And yet...

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      • agturcz@circumstances.runA agturcz@circumstances.run

        @suetanvil @sounddrill @xyhhx @jalefkowit Nope. Here is a good explanation: https://disabled.social/@Aaidanbird/116294513543754105

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        @agturcz @suetanvil Are you saying we should permanently condemn everyone who has at any point been in the Harry Potter fandom?

        Condemning giving money is one thing, condemning liking something is another thing completely.

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        • agturcz@circumstances.runA agturcz@circumstances.run

          @suetanvil @sounddrill @xyhhx @jalefkowit Nope. Here is a good explanation: https://disabled.social/@Aaidanbird/116294513543754105

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          @suetanvil @sounddrill @xyhhx @jalefkowit And if that's not enough, here is more: https://beige.party/@Tattooed_Mummy/116294236841194747

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          • agturcz@circumstances.runA agturcz@circumstances.run

            @suetanvil @sounddrill @xyhhx @jalefkowit And if that's not enough, here is more: https://beige.party/@Tattooed_Mummy/116294236841194747

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            @agturcz @suetanvil

            even if you aren't buying the books or related merchandise, you normalize this kind of behaviour, advertise the franchise (which will probably lead to continued/increased sales), and frankly are just telling everyone where your values lie: that actual people being erased isn't important to you.

            i've been doing this song and dance with black metal nazi bands for a long time: if you think "the art isn't the artist" you're supporting nazis (or in rowling's case, transphobia)

            to continue the nazi analogy: hitler did some water painting too, do you think thats pretty cool or nah?

            @sounddrill @jalefkowit

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              @agturcz @suetanvil

              even if you aren't buying the books or related merchandise, you normalize this kind of behaviour, advertise the franchise (which will probably lead to continued/increased sales), and frankly are just telling everyone where your values lie: that actual people being erased isn't important to you.

              i've been doing this song and dance with black metal nazi bands for a long time: if you think "the art isn't the artist" you're supporting nazis (or in rowling's case, transphobia)

              to continue the nazi analogy: hitler did some water painting too, do you think thats pretty cool or nah?

              @sounddrill @jalefkowit

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              @agturcz @suetanvil

              also, like, harry potter *isn't* that good. as far as fantasy fiction go it's mediocre, but it *is* littered with racism:

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              The world of Harry Potter has captivated millions, drawing readers into a rich tapestry of magic, friendship, and adventure. However, as the series has gained

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