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  3. I want men to stop giving women advice that's like "If you get hit on in an inappropriate place / situation you need to be blunt!

I want men to stop giving women advice that's like "If you get hit on in an inappropriate place / situation you need to be blunt!

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  • soldusty@beige.partyS soldusty@beige.party

    @Robo105 @Mab_813
    A man interacting with that potential victim / survivor IS absolutely sure of his situation & assumed privilege.

    I get, looking in from outside you can rarely be sure but you clearly stated that it was on the woman yo seek help when for any number of reasons she can't.

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    @Soldusty @Mab_813 I can only apologize

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    • robo105@mastodon.socialR robo105@mastodon.social

      @afewbugs @Mab_813 I was wrong and I must apologize. I fully agree that men need to step up more. My clumsy point was that men can also be good and would help. As a man it is not always easy to see what is exactly is happening

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      @Robo105 @Mab_813 first of all thank you for the apology, I appreciate that. I think where a lot of the sort of decent men who _wouldn't_ attack a woman go wrong in imagining these scenarios is picturing themselves as the bystander who would help a woman if asked without demanding anything in return. But you need to be picturing yourselves as the woman instead. You know you're safe, but she has no way of knowing that. Only a minority of men are likely to be dangerous, but without any way of predicting whether any random man like yourself is one of them it's a dangerous gamble for her to take.

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      • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

        @Robo105 @Mab_813 first of all thank you for the apology, I appreciate that. I think where a lot of the sort of decent men who _wouldn't_ attack a woman go wrong in imagining these scenarios is picturing themselves as the bystander who would help a woman if asked without demanding anything in return. But you need to be picturing yourselves as the woman instead. You know you're safe, but she has no way of knowing that. Only a minority of men are likely to be dangerous, but without any way of predicting whether any random man like yourself is one of them it's a dangerous gamble for her to take.

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        @afewbugs @Mab_813 I have to agree that men and women live in different worlds and sadly for women it is a much more dangerous world. I think another response provided a much better answer than I did.
        "If you see a woman potentially in distress or about to be in a distressing situation go & politely ask if everything is fine & make sure you know all the hidden signals for an SOS."

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        • soldusty@beige.partyS soldusty@beige.party

          @Robo105 @Mab_813
          Sure, because just by looking around we can automatically tell who will help us vs. who will help our (potential) attacker 🙄😡.

          If you see a woman potentially in distress or about to be in a distressing situation go & politely ask if everything is fine & make sure you know all the hidden signals for an SOS.

          It's on men to stop making victims, never the otherway round.

          You wouldn't tell a child that they shouldn't have been alone with their uncle after they've been raped by that uncle would you?

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          @Soldusty @Mab_813 Your suggestion about a proper response was much better than mine

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          • robo105@mastodon.socialR robo105@mastodon.social

            @afewbugs @Mab_813 I have to agree that men and women live in different worlds and sadly for women it is a much more dangerous world. I think another response provided a much better answer than I did.
            "If you see a woman potentially in distress or about to be in a distressing situation go & politely ask if everything is fine & make sure you know all the hidden signals for an SOS."

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            @Robo105 @Mab_813 I don't know if you saw this post about men and women inhabiting different worlds, but it seems to have been quite an eye opener for many https://mastodon.world/@davidnjoku/113436907872665984

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            • robo105@mastodon.socialR robo105@mastodon.social

              @Soldusty @Mab_813 Your suggestion about a proper response was much better than mine

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              @Robo105 @Mab_813
              That'll be why you boosted the wrong post.
              Try not being a creep.

              Yes, trying to get me to be polite & suck up to your apology you posted 30 minutes ago like I owe you something.

              🔼 This is how it comes across 🤷.

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                @Robo105 @Mab_813
                That'll be why you boosted the wrong post.
                Try not being a creep.

                Yes, trying to get me to be polite & suck up to your apology you posted 30 minutes ago like I owe you something.

                🔼 This is how it comes across 🤷.

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                @Soldusty @Mab_813 Well then you are far too eager to find fault. I have apologized and admitted wrong and now I am moving on

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                • robo105@mastodon.socialR robo105@mastodon.social

                  @Soldusty @Mab_813 Well then you are far too eager to find fault. I have apologized and admitted wrong and now I am moving on

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                  @Robo105 @Mab_813
                  Thanks for further proving my point.
                  Your self entitled bullcrap is THE PROBLEM!

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