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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 31 - 4 May - Rimini - Bologna - Milano - Lugano - Basel - Strasbourg

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    @knud @hopla right. Exactly. But on trains through Kehl it’s damned annoying.

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    @jon @knud so. Damn. Annoying. They don't care that drivers barely have the time to grab a Kaffee und Brötchen for breakfast in Offenburg between two trains, but with the caused delay it's usually impossible...

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      About this Régiolis finally running, I’m not sure quite what to expect. I think today was determined most by operational logic, so I’m not sure there’ll be a big press thing about it.

      But VP of Grand Est Philipps always makes a big song and dance about everything…

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      Every time VP of Grand Est Philipps has uttered anything about these trains, the regional press has been all too happy to transcribe it

      Today *when the train actually runs*: nothing (at least not yet)

      Almost as if you need a press release to make news…

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      • hopla@zug.networkH hopla@zug.network

        @jon @knud so. Damn. Annoying. They don't care that drivers barely have the time to grab a Kaffee und Brötchen for breakfast in Offenburg between two trains, but with the caused delay it's usually impossible...

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        @hopla @jon @knud Speaking of which, a Law Professor of the UdS has recently won the first trial on suing Germany over those controls.

        (Though appeal is pending).

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        • sobex@social.sciences.reS sobex@social.sciences.re

          @hopla @jon @knud Speaking of which, a Law Professor of the UdS has recently won the first trial on suing Germany over those controls.

          (Though appeal is pending).

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          @Sobex @hopla @knud two indeed. There’s one in Bayern and one in Rheinland Pfalz.

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            Every time VP of Grand Est Philipps has uttered anything about these trains, the regional press has been all too happy to transcribe it

            Today *when the train actually runs*: nothing (at least not yet)

            Almost as if you need a press release to make news…

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            @jon
            You should send out one. Seriously, get the journos used to you being a news source.

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              @Sobex @hopla @knud two indeed. There’s one in Bayern and one in Rheinland Pfalz.

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              @jon @Sobex @knud aaaaand second control for me 😫 she didn't notice she controlled me on the previous one...

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              • hopla@zug.networkH hopla@zug.network

                @jon @Sobex @knud aaaaand second control for me 😫 she didn't notice she controlled me on the previous one...

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                @hopla @jon @knud They are controlling the drivers themselves ?

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                • hopla@zug.networkH hopla@zug.network

                  @jon @Sobex @knud aaaaand second control for me 😫 she didn't notice she controlled me on the previous one...

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                  @hopla @Sobex @knud they’re not the sharpest police!

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                  • sobex@social.sciences.reS sobex@social.sciences.re

                    @hopla @jon @knud They are controlling the drivers themselves ?

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                    @Sobex @jon @knud no but I'm a passenger.. I jokingly laid on the table my id card, my driver license, my certificates by the three train operators, my car driver license, my carte Vitale and my carte Badgeo on the first check..

                    .. but now it's just a nuisance, no more fun moves, cops aren't friends

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                    • notsoloud@expressional.socialN notsoloud@expressional.social

                      @jon
                      You should send out one. Seriously, get the journos used to you being a news source.

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                      @notsoloud @jon local/regional media are so under-staffed that they often don’t have the time to do much else than copy press releases into articles; include a picture with the press release and they’re likely to post it as-is, too

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        @hopla @Sobex @knud they’re not the sharpest police!

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                        @jon @hopla @knud I feel at some point someone should engineer something so that they get stuck in a train with no stops for 2 hours, and perhaps even get controlled by the train manager asking them for their tickets and issuing a fine for travelling to without one.
                        (I’m sure your administration will pay it up or get it sorted out, but I don’t have a choice)

                        Or drop them in Meuse TGV or something like that.

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          @hopla @Sobex @knud they’re not the sharpest police!

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                          @jon this is an oxymoron

                          @hopla @Sobex @knud

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                          • mkoek@mastodon.nlM mkoek@mastodon.nl

                            @notsoloud @jon local/regional media are so under-staffed that they often don’t have the time to do much else than copy press releases into articles; include a picture with the press release and they’re likely to post it as-is, too

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                            @mkoek @notsoloud SWR ought to manage a bit better!

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                            • hopla@zug.networkH hopla@zug.network

                              @Sobex @jon @knud no but I'm a passenger.. I jokingly laid on the table my id card, my driver license, my certificates by the three train operators, my car driver license, my carte Vitale and my carte Badgeo on the first check..

                              .. but now it's just a nuisance, no more fun moves, cops aren't friends

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                              @hopla @jon @knud Ah so you were "driving" the train in the German meaning 😄

                              (German speakers tend to say "drive" instead of "ride" for both bicycles and trains, it's not too much of a problem of the former, but a bit concerning for the latter ^^').

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 31 - 4 May - Rimini - Bologna - Milano - Lugano - Basel - Strasbourg

                                Borders already crossed:
                                Chiasso VG 🇨🇭 - Como S. Giovanni 🇮🇹
                                Basel St Johann 🇨🇭 - St. Louis 🇫🇷
                                Kehl 🇩🇪 - Krimmeri-Meinau 🇫🇷

                                First to Bologna for a breakfast meeting, then north across the Gotthard pass for the second time in just over a month. Today’s destination: Strasbourg to test a Régiolis.

                                Today's routes on the routes map:
                                https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#7/46.369674/9.920654

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                                @jon Random thought, could some writing on what makes good cross border rail crossings work well be an addition to the map/database/articles/etc? Examples to be inspired by. There are different ways to make it work and maybe that could be an angle to add.

                                (Assuming this would have to happen as part of something that provides funding of course.)

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                                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                  Also some panel in the interior of this ex-FYRA ETR700 is vibrating and rattling. Makes for a rather loud journey.

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                                  @jon panels coming off was one of the reasons for NS to return the Fyra to its maker I recall.

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    @mkoek @notsoloud SWR ought to manage a bit better!

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                                    @jon
                                    Send them one! Quote yourself. A great opportunity to draw attention to whichever part of the cause that's relevant here. This is the one chance of having a quote by you instead of some ass covering manager.
                                    @mkoek

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                                    • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                                      @jon Random thought, could some writing on what makes good cross border rail crossings work well be an addition to the map/database/articles/etc? Examples to be inspired by. There are different ways to make it work and maybe that could be an angle to add.

                                      (Assuming this would have to happen as part of something that provides funding of course.)

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                                      @stefanlindbohm Yes. When I have time 😀

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 103 of 125
                                        FR 8802
                                        06:10 Rimini - Bologna Centrale 07:15
                                        Trenitalia

                                        Train type: AnsaldoBreda ETR 700, 8 carriages
                                        ⚡️ (3kV dc)
                                        🚲: ⛔️
                                        🦽: ✅ (lift on platform)
                                        🛜: ✅ (requires registration - annoying)
                                        🍽️: ✅
                                        🧳: 😐 (lousy for large luggage)
                                        🧽: 🙂
                                        Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs €13)

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                                        @jon This is not an attractive train. It looks like it was designed by committee decisions.

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 103 of 125
                                          FR 8802
                                          06:10 Rimini - Bologna Centrale 07:15
                                          Trenitalia

                                          Train type: AnsaldoBreda ETR 700, 8 carriages
                                          ⚡️ (3kV dc)
                                          🚲: ⛔️
                                          🦽: ✅ (lift on platform)
                                          🛜: ✅ (requires registration - annoying)
                                          🍽️: ✅
                                          🧳: 😐 (lousy for large luggage)
                                          🧽: 🙂
                                          Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs €13)

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                                          @jon Curious what you meant with the yes/no logo for bicycles? I don't remember any official bicycle spots on the ETR 700 but maybe I didn't check well or they changed the layout since then?

                                          As usual, luggage space is rather cramped on Italian high-speed trains... It's ok when the service isn't busy: https://cycling-on-rails.com/train-bicycle-guide/italy/#etr-700-frecciarossa

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