Your phone is about to stop being yours.
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You will need a Google pixel phone, for Graphene OS.
High end Android phones are out of my reach. I spend money on cycling parts
Any phone above 200 USD is out of reach of most people where the salaries are 50 USD or less.
Pixel phones are 700 USD or more
The Motorola phones which will work with Graphene OS have not even been put into production yet
The Android division of Google needs to be split up into parts like the Bell phone company for this treason
#GrapheneOS #google #Android #treason #programming #Age #Verification
@Radio_Azureus @joshg @AAKL @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS
If you're in the US swappa has supported Pixels in the price range you're looking for. The Pixel 8 pro I'm typing this from was 260 if you go back to a 7 you're golden
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You will need a Google pixel phone, for Graphene OS.
High end Android phones are out of my reach. I spend money on cycling parts
Any phone above 200 USD is out of reach of most people where the salaries are 50 USD or less.
Pixel phones are 700 USD or more
The Motorola phones which will work with Graphene OS have not even been put into production yet
The Android division of Google needs to be split up into parts like the Bell phone company for this treason
#GrapheneOS #google #Android #treason #programming #Age #Verification
@Radio_Azureus @joshg @AAKL@infosec.exchange @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS
Fairphone's e/OS works with some phones I believe
LineageOS can be used on some devices other than Pixel phones.
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@scottytrees @lproven
short:
initial days i thought that android is open platform, somewhere 2012.at approximately 2020, i got deeply sick of android world's control and closed components. i also learned that bootloader has some catches even when oem unlock is activated.
now i think that android stars to be lost cause.
@zetabeta @scottytrees @lproven GrapheneOS and lineageOS is still open source.. Isn't it better to improve those than to switch to ios?
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@zetabeta @scottytrees @lproven GrapheneOS and lineageOS is still open source.. Isn't it better to improve those than to switch to ios?
@covert_czar @scottytrees @lproven
basically yes.my opinion:
ios was already lost cause by apple's control. google is creating something similar to apple.for near term, maybe three years. android without google components is an alternate option.
but i think alphabet inc eventually completes android takeover.
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@lproven@social.vivaldi.net @spycrab@kolektiva.social
the apks won't work unless you hand over your money and id to google
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You will need a Google pixel phone, for Graphene OS.
High end Android phones are out of my reach. I spend money on cycling parts
Any phone above 200 USD is out of reach of most people where the salaries are 50 USD or less.
Pixel phones are 700 USD or more
The Motorola phones which will work with Graphene OS have not even been put into production yet
The Android division of Google needs to be split up into parts like the Bell phone company for this treason
#GrapheneOS #google #Android #treason #programming #Age #Verification
@Radio_Azureus @joshg @AAKL @aburka @lproven There are budget Pixels cheaper than that. Used devices are the way to go to save money. A used budget Pixel can be around $250.
It makes much more sense to buy a 2-3 year old used devicew with 7 years of proper updates from launch than a low-end device for the same price. Pixels have official battery replacement kits but the battery life will typically still be decent after 2-3 years.
Most other devices lack proper updates and security protections.
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Your phone is about to stop being yours.
Keep Android Open
Your phone is about to stop being yours. In September 2026, Google will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with them.
(keepandroidopen.org)
125 days until lockdown
Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.
Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.
@lproven Supposedly, there is an opt-out. It's just a convoluted af process that has a literal 24 hour cooldown
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@Radio_Azureus @joshg @AAKL@infosec.exchange @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS
Fairphone's e/OS works with some phones I believe
LineageOS can be used on some devices other than Pixel phones.
@contrasocial @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven /e/ isn't made by Fairphone and there are other operating systems available for their devices including their own.
/e/ has poor privacy and atrocious security due to lagging very far behind on many important updates along with not keeping the standard privacy and security model intact. /e/ is a fork of LineageOS with much worse privacy and security. It should never be used over LineageOS.
An alternate OS won't make end-of-life devices safe.
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@contrasocial @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven /e/ isn't made by Fairphone and there are other operating systems available for their devices including their own.
/e/ has poor privacy and atrocious security due to lagging very far behind on many important updates along with not keeping the standard privacy and security model intact. /e/ is a fork of LineageOS with much worse privacy and security. It should never be used over LineageOS.
An alternate OS won't make end-of-life devices safe.
@contrasocial @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven Google isn't removing support for installing arbitrary apps but rather adding friction to it including an initial one-time 24 hour wait. Switching OS is much higher friction than the upcoming process for enabling using apps from unverified developers so it's not a solution.
Privacy and security are the real reasons to switch away from mainstream Android devices. /e/ won't provide good privacy or anything close to reasonable security though.
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@contrasocial @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven Google isn't removing support for installing arbitrary apps but rather adding friction to it including an initial one-time 24 hour wait. Switching OS is much higher friction than the upcoming process for enabling using apps from unverified developers so it's not a solution.
Privacy and security are the real reasons to switch away from mainstream Android devices. /e/ won't provide good privacy or anything close to reasonable security though.
@contrasocial @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven Switching OS is much higher friction than the upcoming process for enabling using apps from unverified developers on operating systems licensing Google Mobile Services so it's not a solution.
People should move to GrapheneOS because of the actual benefits it provides rather than fear about something that's not really happening. We're fine with the extra interest it provides but aren't going to mislead people into using it because of that.
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@aburka @AAKL @janvlug @zetabeta @ferricoxide @geomaster337 @MattMerk @johnhenrythe3rd @lopta @InkySchwartz @gbsills @lopta
There *are* some alternatives, and I've written about several.
New Jolla, Sailfish 5, offer break from iOS-Android monopoly
hands on: Powered by the original mobile Linux OS with crowdsourced specs
theregister (www.theregister.com)
Mobian brings Debian 13 'Trixie' to phones and tablets
: Another phone Linux? The Reg attempts to disentangle the options
theregister (www.theregister.com)
FuriPhone FLX1: A Debian-powered smartphone
: Fun with a FOSS-focused Phosh fondleslab
theregister (www.theregister.com)
/e/ OS 3.0: Slightly less clunky, slightly more private
: Probably the easiest way to a Google-free smartphone or tablet
theregister (www.theregister.com)
Punkt MC02: As private, and pricey, as a Swiss bank account
A de-Googled Android phone with extra security – and a subscription
theregister (www.theregister.com)
First 'Focal' based Ubuntu Touch – its mobile OS – is out
First version built on 20.04 hits smartphones and tablets of UBPorts fans
theregister (www.theregister.com)
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@spycrab @aoeuidhtns Nope. This is the OS's built in app-source control measures.
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@zetabeta @scottytrees @lproven GrapheneOS and lineageOS is still open source.. Isn't it better to improve those than to switch to ios?
@covert_czar @zetabeta @scottytrees
I did not mention iOS. I don't personally like it much and don't tend to recommend it except to extreme technophobes.
But you do realise that Google is attempting to close off and thus shut down the rebuilds, too?
AOSP on a diet plan as Google halves Android code drops
: Two a year is for your own good, Mountain View insists
theregister (www.theregister.com)
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@contrasocial @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven Google isn't removing support for installing arbitrary apps but rather adding friction to it including an initial one-time 24 hour wait. Switching OS is much higher friction than the upcoming process for enabling using apps from unverified developers so it's not a solution.
Privacy and security are the real reasons to switch away from mainstream Android devices. /e/ won't provide good privacy or anything close to reasonable security though.
@GrapheneOS @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven
Sure, but I'm not really interested in using Pixel device to begin with which is why Graphene isn't really an option. Expecting security and privacy on Google hardware seems like a bit of a fool's errand.
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@lproven re: "with no way to opt out" — i have seen a post which says there will be a *highly* convoluted way of opting out, which involves turning on developer mode and waiting 24 hours, but of course we won't really know until september.
@fishidwardrobe Do read the whole web page, eh?
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Your phone is about to stop being yours.
Keep Android Open
Your phone is about to stop being yours. In September 2026, Google will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with them.
(keepandroidopen.org)
125 days until lockdown
Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.
Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.
@lproven@vivaldi.net
And it's not like you can easily find alternatives. Too many device-makers benefit from turning device "owners" into data-sources to sell to aggregators to want to equip their devices with more-open device-OSes. -
@lproven like, WHAT? Whoa! I'm thinking it might be time to ditch my smartphone, and just go to the laptop when I wanna get online
@2ruth I'm increasingly thinking much the same.
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@lproven good luck finding a carrier that supports something other than Apple or Android
@JoelBarr I don't know where in the world you are but where I am it is no problem at all.
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Your phone is about to stop being yours.
Keep Android Open
Your phone is about to stop being yours. In September 2026, Google will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with them.
(keepandroidopen.org)
125 days until lockdown
Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.
Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.
@lproven @keepandroidopen anyone yet filed complaints with regulators like @BNetzA & @EUCommission ?
- I heard some independent #Android #AppStore from the #EU filed something but I didn't find the details…
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@GrapheneOS @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven
Sure, but I'm not really interested in using Pixel device to begin with which is why Graphene isn't really an option. Expecting security and privacy on Google hardware seems like a bit of a fool's errand.
@contrasocial @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven Pixels are the most secure Android devices. They're currently the only Android devices providing both reasonable updates and proper support for using another OS. They're the only Android devices with important hardware-based security features needed for reasonable security where those can all be used by another OS. The only serious alternative that's available is an iPhone. Fairphones don't provide reasonable privacy or security with any OS.
