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  • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

    Your phone is about to stop being yours.

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    Your phone is about to stop being yours. In September 2026, Google will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with them.

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    125 days until lockdown

    Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

    Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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    @lproven just filed a complaint with the NYS AG

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    • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

      Your phone is about to stop being yours.

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      Keep Android Open

      Your phone is about to stop being yours. In September 2026, Google will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with them.

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      125 days until lockdown

      Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

      Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

      fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF This user is from outside of this forum
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      @lproven re: "with no way to opt out" — i have seen a post which says there will be a *highly* convoluted way of opting out, which involves turning on developer mode and waiting 24 hours, but of course we won't really know until september.

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      • praetor@mstdn.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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        @tully @lproven that part is true.

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        • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

          Your phone is about to stop being yours.

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          Keep Android Open

          Your phone is about to stop being yours. In September 2026, Google will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with them.

          favicon

          (keepandroidopen.org)

          125 days until lockdown

          Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

          Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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          @lproven A common misconception people have about their devices, the device, the physical hardware, is yours, the software is not.

          Think of it like your house, you can own the house but you can’t own the land that it’s on. If you think you own it, don’t pay your property tax and see what happens.

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          • radio_azureus@ioc.exchangeR radio_azureus@ioc.exchange

            You will need a Google pixel phone, for Graphene OS.

            High end Android phones are out of my reach. I spend money on cycling parts

            Any phone above 200 USD is out of reach of most people where the salaries are 50 USD or less.

            Pixel phones are 700 USD or more

            The Motorola phones which will work with Graphene OS have not even been put into production yet

            The Android division of Google needs to be split up into parts like the Bell phone company for this treason

            @joshg @AAKL @aburka @lproven

            @GrapheneOS

            #GrapheneOS #google #Android #treason #programming #Age #Verification

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            @Radio_Azureus @joshg @AAKL @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS

            If you're in the US swappa has supported Pixels in the price range you're looking for. The Pixel 8 pro I'm typing this from was 260 if you go back to a 7 you're golden

            Just a moment...

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            • radio_azureus@ioc.exchangeR radio_azureus@ioc.exchange

              You will need a Google pixel phone, for Graphene OS.

              High end Android phones are out of my reach. I spend money on cycling parts

              Any phone above 200 USD is out of reach of most people where the salaries are 50 USD or less.

              Pixel phones are 700 USD or more

              The Motorola phones which will work with Graphene OS have not even been put into production yet

              The Android division of Google needs to be split up into parts like the Bell phone company for this treason

              @joshg @AAKL @aburka @lproven

              @GrapheneOS

              #GrapheneOS #google #Android #treason #programming #Age #Verification

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              @Radio_Azureus @joshg @AAKL@infosec.exchange @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS

              Fairphone's e/OS works with some phones I believe

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              LineageOS can be used on some devices other than Pixel phones.

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              • zetabeta@mastodon.socialZ zetabeta@mastodon.social

                @scottytrees @lproven
                short:
                initial days i thought that android is open platform, somewhere 2012.

                at approximately 2020, i got deeply sick of android world's control and closed components. i also learned that bootloader has some catches even when oem unlock is activated.

                now i think that android stars to be lost cause.

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                @zetabeta @scottytrees @lproven GrapheneOS and lineageOS is still open source.. Isn't it better to improve those than to switch to ios?

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                • covert_czar@mstdn.socialC covert_czar@mstdn.social

                  @zetabeta @scottytrees @lproven GrapheneOS and lineageOS is still open source.. Isn't it better to improve those than to switch to ios?

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                  @covert_czar @scottytrees @lproven
                  basically yes.

                  my opinion:
                  ios was already lost cause by apple's control. google is creating something similar to apple.

                  for near term, maybe three years. android without google components is an alternate option.

                  but i think alphabet inc eventually completes android takeover.

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                    @lproven@social.vivaldi.net @spycrab@kolektiva.social

                    the apks won't work unless you hand over your money and id to google

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                    • radio_azureus@ioc.exchangeR radio_azureus@ioc.exchange

                      You will need a Google pixel phone, for Graphene OS.

                      High end Android phones are out of my reach. I spend money on cycling parts

                      Any phone above 200 USD is out of reach of most people where the salaries are 50 USD or less.

                      Pixel phones are 700 USD or more

                      The Motorola phones which will work with Graphene OS have not even been put into production yet

                      The Android division of Google needs to be split up into parts like the Bell phone company for this treason

                      @joshg @AAKL @aburka @lproven

                      @GrapheneOS

                      #GrapheneOS #google #Android #treason #programming #Age #Verification

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                      @Radio_Azureus @joshg @AAKL @aburka @lproven There are budget Pixels cheaper than that. Used devices are the way to go to save money. A used budget Pixel can be around $250.

                      It makes much more sense to buy a 2-3 year old used devicew with 7 years of proper updates from launch than a low-end device for the same price. Pixels have official battery replacement kits but the battery life will typically still be decent after 2-3 years.

                      Most other devices lack proper updates and security protections.

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                      • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                        Your phone is about to stop being yours.

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                        Keep Android Open

                        Your phone is about to stop being yours. In September 2026, Google will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with them.

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                        (keepandroidopen.org)

                        125 days until lockdown

                        Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

                        Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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                        @lproven Supposedly, there is an opt-out. It's just a convoluted af process that has a literal 24 hour cooldown

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                        • contrasocial@mastodon.socialC contrasocial@mastodon.social

                          @Radio_Azureus @joshg @AAKL@infosec.exchange @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS

                          Fairphone's e/OS works with some phones I believe

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                          LineageOS can be used on some devices other than Pixel phones.

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                          @contrasocial @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven /e/ isn't made by Fairphone and there are other operating systems available for their devices including their own.

                          /e/ has poor privacy and atrocious security due to lagging very far behind on many important updates along with not keeping the standard privacy and security model intact. /e/ is a fork of LineageOS with much worse privacy and security. It should never be used over LineageOS.

                          An alternate OS won't make end-of-life devices safe.

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                          • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                            @contrasocial @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven /e/ isn't made by Fairphone and there are other operating systems available for their devices including their own.

                            /e/ has poor privacy and atrocious security due to lagging very far behind on many important updates along with not keeping the standard privacy and security model intact. /e/ is a fork of LineageOS with much worse privacy and security. It should never be used over LineageOS.

                            An alternate OS won't make end-of-life devices safe.

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                            @contrasocial @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven Google isn't removing support for installing arbitrary apps but rather adding friction to it including an initial one-time 24 hour wait. Switching OS is much higher friction than the upcoming process for enabling using apps from unverified developers so it's not a solution.

                            Privacy and security are the real reasons to switch away from mainstream Android devices. /e/ won't provide good privacy or anything close to reasonable security though.

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                            • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                              @contrasocial @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven Google isn't removing support for installing arbitrary apps but rather adding friction to it including an initial one-time 24 hour wait. Switching OS is much higher friction than the upcoming process for enabling using apps from unverified developers so it's not a solution.

                              Privacy and security are the real reasons to switch away from mainstream Android devices. /e/ won't provide good privacy or anything close to reasonable security though.

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                              @contrasocial @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven Switching OS is much higher friction than the upcoming process for enabling using apps from unverified developers on operating systems licensing Google Mobile Services so it's not a solution.

                              People should move to GrapheneOS because of the actual benefits it provides rather than fear about something that's not really happening. We're fine with the extra interest it provides but aren't going to mislead people into using it because of that.

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                              • aburka@hachyderm.ioA aburka@hachyderm.io

                                @AAKL @lproven there's nothing to turn to though

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                                @aburka @AAKL @janvlug @zetabeta @ferricoxide @geomaster337 @MattMerk @johnhenrythe3rd @lopta @InkySchwartz @gbsills @lopta

                                There *are* some alternatives, and I've written about several.

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                                : Probably the easiest way to a Google-free smartphone or tablet

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                                  @spycrab @aoeuidhtns Nope. This is the OS's built in app-source control measures.

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                                  • covert_czar@mstdn.socialC covert_czar@mstdn.social

                                    @zetabeta @scottytrees @lproven GrapheneOS and lineageOS is still open source.. Isn't it better to improve those than to switch to ios?

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                                    @covert_czar @zetabeta @scottytrees

                                    I did not mention iOS. I don't personally like it much and don't tend to recommend it except to extreme technophobes.

                                    But you do realise that Google is attempting to close off and thus shut down the rebuilds, too?

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                                    • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                                      @contrasocial @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven Google isn't removing support for installing arbitrary apps but rather adding friction to it including an initial one-time 24 hour wait. Switching OS is much higher friction than the upcoming process for enabling using apps from unverified developers so it's not a solution.

                                      Privacy and security are the real reasons to switch away from mainstream Android devices. /e/ won't provide good privacy or anything close to reasonable security though.

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                                      @GrapheneOS @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven

                                      Sure, but I'm not really interested in using Pixel device to begin with which is why Graphene isn't really an option. Expecting security and privacy on Google hardware seems like a bit of a fool's errand.

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                                      • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                                        @lproven re: "with no way to opt out" — i have seen a post which says there will be a *highly* convoluted way of opting out, which involves turning on developer mode and waiting 24 hours, but of course we won't really know until september.

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                                        @fishidwardrobe Do read the whole web page, eh?

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                                        • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                                          Your phone is about to stop being yours.

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                                          Keep Android Open

                                          Your phone is about to stop being yours. In September 2026, Google will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with them.

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                                          125 days until lockdown

                                          Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

                                          Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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                                          @lproven@vivaldi.net

                                          And it's not like you can easily find alternatives. Too many device-makers benefit from turning device "owners" into data-sources to sell to aggregators to want to equip their devices with more-open device-OSes.

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