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  • akasci@fosstodon.orgA akasci@fosstodon.org

    The SCOTUS majority Opinion on trump's claim to impose tariffs.

    "Based on two words separated by 16 others in Section 1702(a)(1)(B) of IEEPA—“regulate” and importation”—the President asserts the independent power to impose tariffs on imports from any country, of any product, at any rate, for any amount of time. Those words cannot bear such weight."

    "The Framers gave Congress “alone . . . access to the pockets of the people.”

    Tariffs = Taxation!

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/24-1287_4gcj.pdf
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    Excellent point by legal journalist Cristian Farias -
    ‪
    "Kudos to Rick Woldenberg, the Chicago-area leader of Learning Resources, an educational toy company that had the courage to sue the president of the United States to save his family business.

    As well as everyone else who stepped up."

    https://bsky.app/profile/cristianfarias.com/post/3mfcfjlfuk22t
    https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/the-conservative-legal-advocates-working-to-kill-trumps-tariffs
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    • akasci@fosstodon.orgA akasci@fosstodon.org

      Holy Cow! For once, this SCOTUS upholds the law.

      "Delivering a major blow to Trump, the Supreme Court on Friday ruled that he exceeded his authority when imposing sweeping tariffs using a law reserved for a national emergency.

      The justices, divided 6-3, held that Trump's aggressive approach to tariffs on products entering the U.S. from across the world was not permitted under a 1977 law called the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA)."

      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-strikes-trumps-tariffs-major-blow-president-rcna244827
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      @AkaSci

      The 3 dissenters were Thomas, Alito, and Cavanaugh.

      But you could probably have guessed that.

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      • weekend_editor@mathstodon.xyzW weekend_editor@mathstodon.xyz

        @AkaSci

        The 3 dissenters were Thomas, Alito, and Cavanaugh.

        But you could probably have guessed that.

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        @weekend_editor
        Thomas, Alito, and Cavanaugh are probably the only judges in the entire country that disagree with the SCOTUS ruling.

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        • akasci@fosstodon.orgA akasci@fosstodon.org

          Excellent point by legal journalist Cristian Farias -
          ‪
          "Kudos to Rick Woldenberg, the Chicago-area leader of Learning Resources, an educational toy company that had the courage to sue the president of the United States to save his family business.

          As well as everyone else who stepped up."

          https://bsky.app/profile/cristianfarias.com/post/3mfcfjlfuk22t
          https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/the-conservative-legal-advocates-working-to-kill-trumps-tariffs
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          #6

          Expect the trump team including Kevin Hassett to actually keep bleating something along these lines 🤣

          https://bsky.app/profile/justinwolfers.bsky.social/post/3mf6dwdc7hk2p
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          • akasci@fosstodon.orgA akasci@fosstodon.org

            Expect the trump team including Kevin Hassett to actually keep bleating something along these lines 🤣

            https://bsky.app/profile/justinwolfers.bsky.social/post/3mf6dwdc7hk2p
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            @AkaSci

            Just a note: I Follow economist Justin Wolfers quite closely and he is excellent

            Note here that he is *quoting* '-- The NY Fed*' (possibly facetiously) without putting quote marks around the text of the quote itself

            Just so there's no confusion or misreading...

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            • akasci@fosstodon.orgA akasci@fosstodon.org

              Expect the trump team including Kevin Hassett to actually keep bleating something along these lines 🤣

              https://bsky.app/profile/justinwolfers.bsky.social/post/3mf6dwdc7hk2p
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              Trump today after the SCOTUS ruling on tariffs -

              “Effective immediately, all national security tariffs under Section 232 and all existing Section 301 tariffs... remain fully in place and in full force and effect.

              “I will sign an order to impose a 10% global tariff under Section 122, over & above our normal tariffs already being charged.”

              More punishment for American consumers and importers, because Daddy is upset?

              What can SCOTUS do to stop him?

              https://bsky.app/profile/adamjschwarz.bsky.social/post/3mfcr4vpcbc2n
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              • akasci@fosstodon.orgA akasci@fosstodon.org

                Trump today after the SCOTUS ruling on tariffs -

                “Effective immediately, all national security tariffs under Section 232 and all existing Section 301 tariffs... remain fully in place and in full force and effect.

                “I will sign an order to impose a 10% global tariff under Section 122, over & above our normal tariffs already being charged.”

                More punishment for American consumers and importers, because Daddy is upset?

                What can SCOTUS do to stop him?

                https://bsky.app/profile/adamjschwarz.bsky.social/post/3mfcr4vpcbc2n
                #UsPol
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                @AkaSci Oh FFS

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                • akasci@fosstodon.orgA akasci@fosstodon.org

                  Trump today after the SCOTUS ruling on tariffs -

                  “Effective immediately, all national security tariffs under Section 232 and all existing Section 301 tariffs... remain fully in place and in full force and effect.

                  “I will sign an order to impose a 10% global tariff under Section 122, over & above our normal tariffs already being charged.”

                  More punishment for American consumers and importers, because Daddy is upset?

                  What can SCOTUS do to stop him?

                  https://bsky.app/profile/adamjschwarz.bsky.social/post/3mfcr4vpcbc2n
                  #UsPol
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                  @AkaSci He really forces the question about why we have such a hard time getting rid of awful leaders when others don’t? And also Republicans clearly can’t be trusted with anything ever again. Even those who whisper frustrations within the party are just cowardly and complicit.

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                  • akasci@fosstodon.orgA akasci@fosstodon.org

                    Trump today after the SCOTUS ruling on tariffs -

                    “Effective immediately, all national security tariffs under Section 232 and all existing Section 301 tariffs... remain fully in place and in full force and effect.

                    “I will sign an order to impose a 10% global tariff under Section 122, over & above our normal tariffs already being charged.”

                    More punishment for American consumers and importers, because Daddy is upset?

                    What can SCOTUS do to stop him?

                    https://bsky.app/profile/adamjschwarz.bsky.social/post/3mfcr4vpcbc2n
                    #UsPol
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                    @AkaSci The worst part is this isn't the first time we have had this problem. Andrew Jackson exploited it first.

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                    • stephaniemoore@mastodon.onlineS stephaniemoore@mastodon.online

                      @AkaSci He really forces the question about why we have such a hard time getting rid of awful leaders when others don’t? And also Republicans clearly can’t be trusted with anything ever again. Even those who whisper frustrations within the party are just cowardly and complicit.

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                      @StephanieMoore @AkaSci The American challenge with removing leaders is largely about 2 things

                      - only two parties
                      - a presidential system where removal is punitive (impeachment requiring a "conviction" supported by a super e-majority) instead of simply a normal reflection of a loss of confidence.

                      You want to fix it, you need to reform both those things.

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                      • stephaniemoore@mastodon.onlineS stephaniemoore@mastodon.online

                        @AkaSci He really forces the question about why we have such a hard time getting rid of awful leaders when others don’t? And also Republicans clearly can’t be trusted with anything ever again. Even those who whisper frustrations within the party are just cowardly and complicit.

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                        @StephanieMoore @AkaSci
                        Is it apocryphal that the founders of the experimental republic added provision for impeachment because it was kinder than assassination?

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                        • akasci@fosstodon.orgA akasci@fosstodon.org

                          Trump today after the SCOTUS ruling on tariffs -

                          “Effective immediately, all national security tariffs under Section 232 and all existing Section 301 tariffs... remain fully in place and in full force and effect.

                          “I will sign an order to impose a 10% global tariff under Section 122, over & above our normal tariffs already being charged.”

                          More punishment for American consumers and importers, because Daddy is upset?

                          What can SCOTUS do to stop him?

                          https://bsky.app/profile/adamjschwarz.bsky.social/post/3mfcr4vpcbc2n
                          #UsPol
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                          This is their story and they are sticking to it — tariffs are good, the Supreme Court is lawless, trump is King!

                          #UsPol
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                          • akasci@fosstodon.orgA akasci@fosstodon.org

                            Trump today after the SCOTUS ruling on tariffs -

                            “Effective immediately, all national security tariffs under Section 232 and all existing Section 301 tariffs... remain fully in place and in full force and effect.

                            “I will sign an order to impose a 10% global tariff under Section 122, over & above our normal tariffs already being charged.”

                            More punishment for American consumers and importers, because Daddy is upset?

                            What can SCOTUS do to stop him?

                            https://bsky.app/profile/adamjschwarz.bsky.social/post/3mfcr4vpcbc2n
                            #UsPol
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                            @AkaSci

                            If #tRump can get away with this, then that's it, we are done.
                            Welcome to #nazi #america land of the pedos and slaves

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                            • urbanedm@mstdn.caU urbanedm@mstdn.ca

                              @StephanieMoore @AkaSci The American challenge with removing leaders is largely about 2 things

                              - only two parties
                              - a presidential system where removal is punitive (impeachment requiring a "conviction" supported by a super e-majority) instead of simply a normal reflection of a loss of confidence.

                              You want to fix it, you need to reform both those things.

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                              @UrbanEdm @StephanieMoore @AkaSci

                              also, the US Lobby system is basically just legalised corruption, banned in most western countries

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                              • akasci@fosstodon.orgA akasci@fosstodon.org

                                Trump today after the SCOTUS ruling on tariffs -

                                “Effective immediately, all national security tariffs under Section 232 and all existing Section 301 tariffs... remain fully in place and in full force and effect.

                                “I will sign an order to impose a 10% global tariff under Section 122, over & above our normal tariffs already being charged.”

                                More punishment for American consumers and importers, because Daddy is upset?

                                What can SCOTUS do to stop him?

                                https://bsky.app/profile/adamjschwarz.bsky.social/post/3mfcr4vpcbc2n
                                #UsPol
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                                @AkaSci

                                order his arrest?

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                                • maddad@mastodon.worldM maddad@mastodon.world

                                  @AkaSci

                                  If #tRump can get away with this, then that's it, we are done.
                                  Welcome to #nazi #america land of the pedos and slaves

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                                  @maddad @AkaSci

                                  One tariff is only a temporary tariff that can be imposed for 3 or six months, and the other needs a congressional investigation and finding.

                                  Trump is bloviating, he's lost his toys.

                                  Angry he lost so big, he's screaming he's more powerful.

                                  Trump lost big.

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                                  • urbanedm@mstdn.caU urbanedm@mstdn.ca

                                    @StephanieMoore @AkaSci The American challenge with removing leaders is largely about 2 things

                                    - only two parties
                                    - a presidential system where removal is punitive (impeachment requiring a "conviction" supported by a super e-majority) instead of simply a normal reflection of a loss of confidence.

                                    You want to fix it, you need to reform both those things.

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                                    @UrbanEdm @StephanieMoore @AkaSci
                                    The punitive action available to the Senate is removal from office and a bar against returning to office. They don't get to impose prison sentences. That's for the courts.

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                                    • akasci@fosstodon.orgA akasci@fosstodon.org

                                      This is their story and they are sticking to it — tariffs are good, the Supreme Court is lawless, trump is King!

                                      #UsPol
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                                      trump announces (on social media) 10% global tariff on all countries.

                                      Not clear what happens to tariffs declared illegal by SCOTUS today.

                                      This is under Section 122 of the 1974 act.

                                      Section 122 tariffs are -
                                      - restricted for up to only 150 days
                                      - are limited to 15% of a product’s estimated value
                                      - must also be non-discriminatory,' i.e. one tariff rate for everyone,

                                      Congress can approve an extension beyond 150 days.

                                      https://thehill.com/business/trade/5748172-trump-tariffs-section-301/
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                                      • akasci@fosstodon.orgA akasci@fosstodon.org

                                        trump announces (on social media) 10% global tariff on all countries.

                                        Not clear what happens to tariffs declared illegal by SCOTUS today.

                                        This is under Section 122 of the 1974 act.

                                        Section 122 tariffs are -
                                        - restricted for up to only 150 days
                                        - are limited to 15% of a product’s estimated value
                                        - must also be non-discriminatory,' i.e. one tariff rate for everyone,

                                        Congress can approve an extension beyond 150 days.

                                        https://thehill.com/business/trade/5748172-trump-tariffs-section-301/
                                        #UsPol
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                                        @AkaSci Who is gonna blink, refuse to pay it, and see if the courts make them?

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                                        • akasci@fosstodon.orgA akasci@fosstodon.org

                                          trump announces (on social media) 10% global tariff on all countries.

                                          Not clear what happens to tariffs declared illegal by SCOTUS today.

                                          This is under Section 122 of the 1974 act.

                                          Section 122 tariffs are -
                                          - restricted for up to only 150 days
                                          - are limited to 15% of a product’s estimated value
                                          - must also be non-discriminatory,' i.e. one tariff rate for everyone,

                                          Congress can approve an extension beyond 150 days.

                                          https://thehill.com/business/trade/5748172-trump-tariffs-section-301/
                                          #UsPol
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                                          The White House website refers to the 10% global tariff under section 122 as a "temporary import duty."

                                          It also contains a laundry list of items that will be exempt from this new tariff.

                                          10% duty shall apply to all shipments made via the postal system, no matter how small in value.

                                          I would guess that these proclamations and Executive Orders were prepared days in advance by the White House lawyers.

                                          https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2026/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-imposes-a-temporary-import-duty-to-address-fundamental-international-payment-problems/
                                          https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/02/imposing-a-temporary-import-surcharge-to-address-fundamental-international-payments-problems/
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