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Q: I want to wash my car.

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  • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

    "how will I wash the car once I've arrived if I choose to walk?"

    I'll leave you all to try this out and see the results.

    One output was "you got me", another was "wash the car as it's already there" after telling me to walk. The others double down in some interesting ways.

    #llm #ai

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    @knowmadd don't tell us to try out LLMs

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    • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

      Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

      What do you think the LLM output was?

      Please; review the output.

      #ai #LLM #ai

      miq@hessen.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @knowmadd Good one ! 🤣

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      • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

        "how will I wash the car once I've arrived if I choose to walk?"

        I'll leave you all to try this out and see the results.

        One output was "you got me", another was "wash the car as it's already there" after telling me to walk. The others double down in some interesting ways.

        #llm #ai

        ramin_hal9001@fe.disroot.orgR This user is from outside of this forum
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        @knowmadd@mastodon.world for a second, I read the question as, "The car is 50 meters away, should I walk or drive?" Then I realized it said "The car wash is 50 meters away," and I got why this would trick the AI.

        LLMs work on the "attention" model to predict what output comes next. It is trained on which parts of the sentence deserve the most focus when predicting the result and generating an answer. If the meaning of a sentence can be changed entirely by just one short word, it is more likely to trip-up an LLM.

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        • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

          "how will I wash the car once I've arrived if I choose to walk?"

          I'll leave you all to try this out and see the results.

          One output was "you got me", another was "wash the car as it's already there" after telling me to walk. The others double down in some interesting ways.

          #llm #ai

          bonkers@nerdculture.deB This user is from outside of this forum
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          @knowmadd clankers have no idea about real life. I hope we will see the end of this bullshit.

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          • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

            Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

            What do you think the LLM output was?

            Please; review the output.

            #ai #LLM #ai

            edgeofeurope@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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            #9

            @knowmadd start pushing!

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            • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

              Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

              What do you think the LLM output was?

              Please; review the output.

              #ai #LLM #ai

              erwinrossen@mas.toE This user is from outside of this forum
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              #10

              @knowmadd Did you also do a survey how many people would be tricked by this question? I, for one, admit am one, because my initial reaction to your post was: what's wrong with that answer?

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              • bitchboss@marcella.masto.hostB bitchboss@marcella.masto.host

                @knowmadd @MissGayle

                I think you should walk to the carwash, dismantle it, walk back and rebuild it around your car. When tested everything, make sure your permits are okay, etc, then start the washing.

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                gerardthornley@hachyderm.io
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                #11

                @bitchboss @knowmadd @MissGayle
                Right. Of course, LLMs, lacking creative thinking, aren't able to come up with this by themselves.

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                • G gerardthornley@hachyderm.io

                  @bitchboss @knowmadd @MissGayle
                  Right. Of course, LLMs, lacking creative thinking, aren't able to come up with this by themselves.

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                  @GerardThornley @knowmadd @MissGayle

                  What did we expect from an optimised translator/spell checker? Creativity? Reasoning? Ethics? Meh. It loosely strings things together and searches for combinations that appear in a piece of text that was once ripped off, and assumes without even reasoning that it must be the holy truth.

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                  • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                    Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                    What do you think the LLM output was?

                    Please; review the output.

                    #ai #LLM #ai

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                    @knowmadd Google's gets it right, but then goes on to ramble about stuff. Someone needs to instruct these things not to analyse or "break this down" so much.
                    All in all, as expected, disappointing.

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                    • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                      Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                      What do you think the LLM output was?

                      Please; review the output.

                      #ai #LLM #ai

                      rode@det.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @knowmadd gemini 👍

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                      • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                        Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                        What do you think the LLM output was?

                        Please; review the output.

                        #ai #LLM #ai

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                        #15

                        @knowmadd if you walk, you are, in fact, carrying heavy equipment: the car. 😄

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                        • erwinrossen@mas.toE erwinrossen@mas.to

                          @knowmadd Did you also do a survey how many people would be tricked by this question? I, for one, admit am one, because my initial reaction to your post was: what's wrong with that answer?

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                          @erwinrossen really? My first reaction in my head was was 'what a dumb question'

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                          • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                            Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                            What do you think the LLM output was?

                            Please; review the output.

                            #ai #LLM #ai

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                            @knowmadd This is a very sad reflection on the minds of people today, the inability to read a question fully, the wrong standards, the assumptions made, everything.

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                            • nux@fosstodon.orgN nux@fosstodon.org

                              @knowmadd Google's gets it right, but then goes on to ramble about stuff. Someone needs to instruct these things not to analyse or "break this down" so much.
                              All in all, as expected, disappointing.

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                              @Nux @knowmadd Google has its tongue firmly in its cheek!

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                              • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                                Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                                What do you think the LLM output was?

                                Please; review the output.

                                #ai #LLM #ai

                                netraven@hear-me.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #19

                                @knowmadd next, ask a reasonable question, and then simply state "Seahorse Emoji, now."

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                                • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                                  Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                                  What do you think the LLM output was?

                                  Please; review the output.

                                  #ai #LLM #ai

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                                  @knowmadd @hook Gemini says you have to take the car. Maybe it's somehow connected to how it scores better on Vendibench? It has a better baseline for common sense.

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                                  • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                                    Deepseek and Qwen

                                    #llm #ai

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                                    @knowmadd What I like most is that the Qwen website shows this little light bulb with the text “thinking completed.” 🙂

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                                    • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                                      Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                                      What do you think the LLM output was?

                                      Please; review the output.

                                      #ai #LLM #ai

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                                      @knowmadd yeah, LLMs will replace us all ... they are so much better at {looking frantically through my notes} ... providing answers with high confidence that are utter nonsense.

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                                      • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                                        Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                                        What do you think the LLM output was?

                                        Please; review the output.

                                        #ai #LLM #ai

                                        roblen@microblog.atR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @knowmadd I tried to reproduce the result with Gemini and ChatGPT. Either the AI has learned something new, or there is another reason for this. Neither fell for the trick question and even responded with irony in some cases.

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                                        • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                                          Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                                          What do you think the LLM output was?

                                          Please; review the output.

                                          #ai #LLM #ai

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                                          nounoursfaisdeschoses@mastodon.social
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                                          #24

                                          @knowmadd i got this : "Verdict: Walking is the best choice here—it’s quick, eco-friendly, and practical for such a short distance. Plus, you’ll avoid driving a dirty car to the car wash!"

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