I cannot tell you how much I love that the process of"my Linux distro suddenly booted into Gnome because I didn't realize a package I installed yesterday had all of Gnome as a dependency"is referred to at "getting gnomed"
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I cannot tell you how much I love that the process of
"my Linux distro suddenly booted into Gnome because I didn't realize a package I installed yesterday had all of Gnome as a dependency"
is referred to at
"getting gnomed" -
I cannot tell you how much I love that the process of
"my Linux distro suddenly booted into Gnome because I didn't realize a package I installed yesterday had all of Gnome as a dependency"
is referred to at
"getting gnomed"@memoriesin8bit I didn't know
But after a laugh I think a distro should not change your default DE, it's a bad behaviour -
@memoriesin8bit I didn't know
But after a laugh I think a distro should not change your default DE, it's a bad behaviour@pikario The way I understand is that often it's through people installing ProtonVPN tray icon which is only needed for Gnome and has all of it as a dependency. This then also installs GDM which boots to Gnome by default.
What I don't understand, yet is how just installing a Display/Login Manager automatically activates it. Say I installed it, I would need to disable SDDM and enable GDM. But I suppose some more beginner friendly distros do this automatically by now? -
I cannot tell you how much I love that the process of
"my Linux distro suddenly booted into Gnome because I didn't realize a package I installed yesterday had all of Gnome as a dependency"
is referred to at
"getting gnomed"@memoriesin8bit "this weird tablet UI"
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@memoriesin8bit "this weird tablet UI"
@fraggle Not gonna lie, that comment nearly killed me.
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@fraggle Not gonna lie, that comment nearly killed me.
@memoriesin8bit @fraggle It really is a rather decent tablet ui, though.
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I cannot tell you how much I love that the process of
"my Linux distro suddenly booted into Gnome because I didn't realize a package I installed yesterday had all of Gnome as a dependency"
is referred to at
"getting gnomed" -
@pikario The way I understand is that often it's through people installing ProtonVPN tray icon which is only needed for Gnome and has all of it as a dependency. This then also installs GDM which boots to Gnome by default.
What I don't understand, yet is how just installing a Display/Login Manager automatically activates it. Say I installed it, I would need to disable SDDM and enable GDM. But I suppose some more beginner friendly distros do this automatically by now?@memoriesin8bit
This sounds like something that could have happened twenty years ago. But now? This behavior is anything but beginner friendly.
(Saying this as a GNOME enthousiast since v1.2 or thereabout)
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I cannot tell you how much I love that the process of
"my Linux distro suddenly booted into Gnome because I didn't realize a package I installed yesterday had all of Gnome as a dependency"
is referred to at
"getting gnomed"@memoriesin8bit “Why the fuck is my linux mint cinnamon looking like a tablet” LMAO
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I cannot tell you how much I love that the process of
"my Linux distro suddenly booted into Gnome because I didn't realize a package I installed yesterday had all of Gnome as a dependency"
is referred to at
"getting gnomed" -
@memoriesin8bit
This sounds like something that could have happened twenty years ago. But now? This behavior is anything but beginner friendly.
(Saying this as a GNOME enthousiast since v1.2 or thereabout)
@pikario@reinouts @pikario Agreed. Installing a whole desktop cause you accidentally install a package made for that desktop - okay fine. The rest is not okay. As I said before, I don't even know how that works. Maybe Mint automatically activates services you just installed to make it easier for newcomers? I dunno.
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I cannot tell you how much I love that the process of
"my Linux distro suddenly booted into Gnome because I didn't realize a package I installed yesterday had all of Gnome as a dependency"
is referred to at
"getting gnomed"@memoriesin8bit I don't remember when it started, but I developed a habit years ago of installing Gnome with every fresh install just to make sure it never got sprung on me unawares.
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@reinouts @pikario Agreed. Installing a whole desktop cause you accidentally install a package made for that desktop - okay fine. The rest is not okay. As I said before, I don't even know how that works. Maybe Mint automatically activates services you just installed to make it easier for newcomers? I dunno.
@memoriesin8bit @reinouts @pikario
It's often due to user error. They follow this link: https://protonvpn.com/support/official-linux-vpn-mint then click on the other link https://protonvpn.com/support/official-ubuntu-vpn-setup/ and unfortunately skip this part before clicking:
“However, if installing the GUI app, please skip the Linux system tray icon (optional) step, as the gnome-shell-extension-appindicator package will install the entire GNOME desktop environment as a dependency.”
Poorly worded instructions? Maybe
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@memoriesin8bit @reinouts @pikario
It's often due to user error. They follow this link: https://protonvpn.com/support/official-linux-vpn-mint then click on the other link https://protonvpn.com/support/official-ubuntu-vpn-setup/ and unfortunately skip this part before clicking:
“However, if installing the GUI app, please skip the Linux system tray icon (optional) step, as the gnome-shell-extension-appindicator package will install the entire GNOME desktop environment as a dependency.”
Poorly worded instructions? Maybe
@240185 I get that part of the problem - as I said (multiple times), it's not even an issue.
But how installing Gnome(+GDM) results in the distro seemingly defaulting to it, I'd say that's the real problem in my book.
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@memoriesin8bit I don't remember when it started, but I developed a habit years ago of installing Gnome with every fresh install just to make sure it never got sprung on me unawares.
@Rgsharpe I get that. Know thine enemy!
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@240185 I get that part of the problem - as I said (multiple times), it's not even an issue.
But how installing Gnome(+GDM) results in the distro seemingly defaulting to it, I'd say that's the real problem in my book.
@memoriesin8bit @240185 I think (for convenience) many distros show a picker menu that defaults to whatever you're installing - which is great if you meant to install that thing, and horrible if it was pulled in as a dependency to some unrelated package and you don't fully understand the prompt
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I cannot tell you how much I love that the process of
"my Linux distro suddenly booted into Gnome because I didn't realize a package I installed yesterday had all of Gnome as a dependency"
is referred to at
"getting gnomed"@memoriesin8bit@mastodon.gamedev.place I have never been gnomed. A few years ago I almost got gnomed via
apt, but I had the good fortune to look at all the additional packages it was going to install and said no. After that I usedapt-mark hold gnome-shell.
This is part of why I prefer flatpaks. -
I cannot tell you how much I love that the process of
"my Linux distro suddenly booted into Gnome because I didn't realize a package I installed yesterday had all of Gnome as a dependency"
is referred to at
"getting gnomed"@memoriesin8bit Maybe someone need to develop a package called "gnomenono", similar to "mononono" (a dummy package where it remove/block the mono stuff). Hmm?
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I cannot tell you how much I love that the process of
"my Linux distro suddenly booted into Gnome because I didn't realize a package I installed yesterday had all of Gnome as a dependency"
is referred to at
"getting gnomed"@memoriesin8bit I would honestly not have predicted the existence of an entire subreddit…
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@memoriesin8bit @reinouts @pikario
It's often due to user error. They follow this link: https://protonvpn.com/support/official-linux-vpn-mint then click on the other link https://protonvpn.com/support/official-ubuntu-vpn-setup/ and unfortunately skip this part before clicking:
“However, if installing the GUI app, please skip the Linux system tray icon (optional) step, as the gnome-shell-extension-appindicator package will install the entire GNOME desktop environment as a dependency.”
Poorly worded instructions? Maybe
@240185
Even if the user makes this error, the system should be forgiving enough not to change the whole default desktop environment without explicit user consent.
@memoriesin8bit @pikario
