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  • futurebird@sauropods.winF This user is from outside of this forum
    futurebird@sauropods.winF This user is from outside of this forum
    futurebird@sauropods.win
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    #1

    "Listen. I know that no one has explained how dropping these bombs makes any sense but somehow if they didn't do it the US would be weaker or something might happen and you'd get attacked by a terrorist in the Ohio carpark or suddenly there would be no jobs and you'd be poor. Trust us bro."

    At least a third of this country falls for this over and over and over.

    I have another theory.

    What if it's not important and it's just some wealthy people settling scores that have nothing to do with us?

    futurebird@sauropods.winF rubinjoni@mastodon.socialR wakame@tech.lgbtW tamtam@mastodon.deT spacemagick@mastodon.socialS 7 Replies Last reply
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    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

      "Listen. I know that no one has explained how dropping these bombs makes any sense but somehow if they didn't do it the US would be weaker or something might happen and you'd get attacked by a terrorist in the Ohio carpark or suddenly there would be no jobs and you'd be poor. Trust us bro."

      At least a third of this country falls for this over and over and over.

      I have another theory.

      What if it's not important and it's just some wealthy people settling scores that have nothing to do with us?

      futurebird@sauropods.winF This user is from outside of this forum
      futurebird@sauropods.winF This user is from outside of this forum
      futurebird@sauropods.win
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      #2

      You get in the taxicab. And he goes to a drive through and orders a combo meal. And you say "but you are supposed to be driving me to my destination"

      "This is important for national security" he says.

      Instead of just getting out and walking away you sit there while he orders his combo meal, pays for it, eats. After all you are not the driver.

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      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

        "Listen. I know that no one has explained how dropping these bombs makes any sense but somehow if they didn't do it the US would be weaker or something might happen and you'd get attacked by a terrorist in the Ohio carpark or suddenly there would be no jobs and you'd be poor. Trust us bro."

        At least a third of this country falls for this over and over and over.

        I have another theory.

        What if it's not important and it's just some wealthy people settling scores that have nothing to do with us?

        rubinjoni@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @futurebird It's just...
        Blood For The Military Industrial Complex God!
        Skulls for the Financial Capital Throne!

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        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

          "Listen. I know that no one has explained how dropping these bombs makes any sense but somehow if they didn't do it the US would be weaker or something might happen and you'd get attacked by a terrorist in the Ohio carpark or suddenly there would be no jobs and you'd be poor. Trust us bro."

          At least a third of this country falls for this over and over and over.

          I have another theory.

          What if it's not important and it's just some wealthy people settling scores that have nothing to do with us?

          wakame@tech.lgbtW This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @futurebird
          "The proud and hard-working people of Iran should enjoy the same rights to shooter drills and bacon burgers like every US citizen."

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          • wakame@tech.lgbtW wakame@tech.lgbt

            @futurebird
            "The proud and hard-working people of Iran should enjoy the same rights to shooter drills and bacon burgers like every US citizen."

            flying_saucers@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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            @wakame @futurebird I mean at the moment they have the right to being shot for demanding elections lol

            Not that that’s what motivates the bombings but either way

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            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

              "Listen. I know that no one has explained how dropping these bombs makes any sense but somehow if they didn't do it the US would be weaker or something might happen and you'd get attacked by a terrorist in the Ohio carpark or suddenly there would be no jobs and you'd be poor. Trust us bro."

              At least a third of this country falls for this over and over and over.

              I have another theory.

              What if it's not important and it's just some wealthy people settling scores that have nothing to do with us?

              tamtam@mastodon.deT This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @futurebird I thinks it's oil. amongst of other things.And crazy wealthy people.

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              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                You get in the taxicab. And he goes to a drive through and orders a combo meal. And you say "but you are supposed to be driving me to my destination"

                "This is important for national security" he says.

                Instead of just getting out and walking away you sit there while he orders his combo meal, pays for it, eats. After all you are not the driver.

                ingalovinde@embracing.spaceI This user is from outside of this forum
                ingalovinde@embracing.spaceI This user is from outside of this forum
                ingalovinde@embracing.space
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                #7

                @futurebird we had a story like that once, ordered a taxi to the airport (not really reachable by public transit), with not a lot of time to spare.
                Driver, five minutes later: "you know what, I'm going to turn away from the route and go to a drive through, to get a huge cup of coffee, it's just a short detour. I've been behind the wheel for the last 20 hours and now I'm feeling a bit sleepy."
                Yeah we sit there while he ordered and paid 💀

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                • tamtam@mastodon.deT tamtam@mastodon.de

                  @futurebird I thinks it's oil. amongst of other things.And crazy wealthy people.

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                  @Tamtam

                  For years I thought that was the driving idea behind many US military actions. If not oil then some other form of economic profiteering.

                  I have come to *reject* this. The notion it is "if not moral at least it is profitable" gives them too much credit.

                  War profiteering is a fleeting, inefficient way to build wealth. Objectively? They destroy wealth.

                  They don't care about having "more" but rather "more than the other guy"

                  futurebird@sauropods.winF lucybeahere@mstdn.socialL lily_and_frog@mastodon.artL alper@sfba.socialA laukidh@infosec.exchangeL 6 Replies Last reply
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                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                    @Tamtam

                    For years I thought that was the driving idea behind many US military actions. If not oil then some other form of economic profiteering.

                    I have come to *reject* this. The notion it is "if not moral at least it is profitable" gives them too much credit.

                    War profiteering is a fleeting, inefficient way to build wealth. Objectively? They destroy wealth.

                    They don't care about having "more" but rather "more than the other guy"

                    futurebird@sauropods.winF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @Tamtam

                    And I think some of the American public goes along with the nonsense because they believe that these military actions are protecting big US companies, big US interests, and don't we all work for those guys and depend on them to buy our fried chicken sandwiches and algebra lessons?

                    But, the US ruling class isn't wise even in promoting their own interests. They would rather grind other people of their class down than participate in some homosexual "tide that lifts all boats" --

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                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                      @Tamtam

                      For years I thought that was the driving idea behind many US military actions. If not oil then some other form of economic profiteering.

                      I have come to *reject* this. The notion it is "if not moral at least it is profitable" gives them too much credit.

                      War profiteering is a fleeting, inefficient way to build wealth. Objectively? They destroy wealth.

                      They don't care about having "more" but rather "more than the other guy"

                      lucybeahere@mstdn.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @futurebird @Tamtam

                      Yes, this also explains their careless destruction of the planet while they build their bunkers and rocket ships. I keep saying they would rather be king of a dung heap than share power. Wealth and power truly warps the mind.

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                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                        @Tamtam

                        And I think some of the American public goes along with the nonsense because they believe that these military actions are protecting big US companies, big US interests, and don't we all work for those guys and depend on them to buy our fried chicken sandwiches and algebra lessons?

                        But, the US ruling class isn't wise even in promoting their own interests. They would rather grind other people of their class down than participate in some homosexual "tide that lifts all boats" --

                        diffractie@glitterkitten.co.ukD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @futurebird I think theres an strange hope that "at least someone is benefiting from this", kinda like the impulse to find someone to blame, because the reality of it being bad for everyone is horrifying.

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                        • diffractie@glitterkitten.co.ukD diffractie@glitterkitten.co.uk

                          @futurebird I think theres an strange hope that "at least someone is benefiting from this", kinda like the impulse to find someone to blame, because the reality of it being bad for everyone is horrifying.

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                          @diffractie

                          This is exactly the point I'm trying to stress. There isn't anyone who is doing better because of any of this.

                          Not even the worst people you know.

                          These are the actions of people who would look at these two choices:

                          You have $5 and a BB gun and everyone else is starving near death and has no guns.

                          vs.

                          You have $100 and a nice shot gun, but everyone else has $80 and a BB gun.

                          And they are like "Give the first one please."

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                          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                            @Tamtam

                            For years I thought that was the driving idea behind many US military actions. If not oil then some other form of economic profiteering.

                            I have come to *reject* this. The notion it is "if not moral at least it is profitable" gives them too much credit.

                            War profiteering is a fleeting, inefficient way to build wealth. Objectively? They destroy wealth.

                            They don't care about having "more" but rather "more than the other guy"

                            lily_and_frog@mastodon.artL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @futurebird @Tamtam

                            US foreign policy is based on two things:

                            1. US power is based on US buying power and *overconsumption*.
                            2. Even right wing hawks know, despite denials, that Earth's resources are finite.

                            So the aim of US foreign policy is to stop any potential rival to match US's (and key allies') levels of consumption. Even more so if they have an economic model other than capitalism.

                            Doesn't matter if wars are "won" or "lost", all what matters is hindering development.

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                            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                              @Tamtam

                              For years I thought that was the driving idea behind many US military actions. If not oil then some other form of economic profiteering.

                              I have come to *reject* this. The notion it is "if not moral at least it is profitable" gives them too much credit.

                              War profiteering is a fleeting, inefficient way to build wealth. Objectively? They destroy wealth.

                              They don't care about having "more" but rather "more than the other guy"

                              alper@sfba.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @futurebird @Tamtam
                              Spite is as powerful as it is subtle as a human drive. It hides behind others in many cases. It's the deadliest 8th sin never even mentioned.

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                              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                "Listen. I know that no one has explained how dropping these bombs makes any sense but somehow if they didn't do it the US would be weaker or something might happen and you'd get attacked by a terrorist in the Ohio carpark or suddenly there would be no jobs and you'd be poor. Trust us bro."

                                At least a third of this country falls for this over and over and over.

                                I have another theory.

                                What if it's not important and it's just some wealthy people settling scores that have nothing to do with us?

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                                @futurebird
                                It's difficult to imagine how the US could possibly appear any weaker than it already does, given that it's crass clueless infinitely blackmailable gangster boss puppet leader is obviously being run by the country's traditional enemy.

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                                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                  "Listen. I know that no one has explained how dropping these bombs makes any sense but somehow if they didn't do it the US would be weaker or something might happen and you'd get attacked by a terrorist in the Ohio carpark or suddenly there would be no jobs and you'd be poor. Trust us bro."

                                  At least a third of this country falls for this over and over and over.

                                  I have another theory.

                                  What if it's not important and it's just some wealthy people settling scores that have nothing to do with us?

                                  kevinrns@mstdn.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @futurebird

                                  People are saying maybe the Saudis hired trump personally, to direct the US military to hit Saudis long-term enemy Iran.

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                                    @futurebird

                                    People are saying maybe the Saudis hired trump personally, to direct the US military to hit Saudis long-term enemy Iran.

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                                    @kevinrns @futurebird He might get another aeroplane for it, who knows.

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                                    • energisch_@troet.cafeE energisch_@troet.cafe

                                      @kevinrns @futurebird He might get another aeroplane for it, who knows.

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                                      @energisch_ @kevinrns @futurebird Qatar with the plane, UAE with the billions in crypto, bought the use of the US military from tRump, to strike their enemy.

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                                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                        @Tamtam

                                        For years I thought that was the driving idea behind many US military actions. If not oil then some other form of economic profiteering.

                                        I have come to *reject* this. The notion it is "if not moral at least it is profitable" gives them too much credit.

                                        War profiteering is a fleeting, inefficient way to build wealth. Objectively? They destroy wealth.

                                        They don't care about having "more" but rather "more than the other guy"

                                        laukidh@infosec.exchangeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        @futurebird @Tamtam also, we recognized our dependence on foreign oil and have become a net exporter.

                                        We don’t need anyone else’s oil. A couple seized tankers doesn’t come close to what we’ve spent on this.

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                                        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                          "Listen. I know that no one has explained how dropping these bombs makes any sense but somehow if they didn't do it the US would be weaker or something might happen and you'd get attacked by a terrorist in the Ohio carpark or suddenly there would be no jobs and you'd be poor. Trust us bro."

                                          At least a third of this country falls for this over and over and over.

                                          I have another theory.

                                          What if it's not important and it's just some wealthy people settling scores that have nothing to do with us?

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                                          @futurebird
                                          Won't you think of the Trump family finances, myrmepropagandist?

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