Jesus fucking Christ, Cory, this is patently ridiculous.

[artemis@dice.camp]

This is the real shit that makes Doctorow not worth it to me.

I actually do have a fair amount of tolerance for "liberal" perspectives put forward in good faith IF the fucking person can manage not to be arrogantly ignorant. If someone just hasn't gotten to the point of dismantling their assumptions about certain things yet, that is one thing.

But this is not good faith.

[artemis@dice.camp]

Doctorow is not one of those people who haven't had time to engage with more challenging ideas, nor does he have an excuse in the Year two thousand twenty & six for so flippantly dismissing a Black woman's perspective—a Black woman who lived under segregation for a good portion of her life—on how oppressed peoples can free themselves from oppression, not just physically but holistically rejecting the white supremacist kyriarchy in every way it manifests.

[mynameistillian@plush.city]

@artemis did he even understand what she said. what she said is tied closely to race and various other marginalizations. jesus christ cory, this isn't it

[artemis@dice.camp]

@sayonaraminasan
Same guy, really got people pissed off a week or so ago with a pretty shit AI take, but this is a different topic. In this post (which I will link if requested, but I'm not driving traffic to it) he largely defends Bluesky.

[ykantrachelread@social.treehouse.systems]

@artemis audre lorde: "racism will never dismantle male supremacy"

some white dude: "ah but what if"

[samebchase@fantastic.earth]

@artemis yikes, that's disappointing.

[artemis@dice.camp]

@theynege
️

This is it.

[sayonaraminasan@urusai.social]

@artemis lol no need. Seems like this guy is on a streak of bad takes lately. Don’t know much about him other than he gave us the term enshitification which may be the most useful thing he ever does if he keeps this up.

[jdp23@neuromatch.social]

@theynege @artemis

[pkw@snac.d34d.net]

He lost me when he wouldn't acknowledge that his
use of LLM is problematic.

[vulpineamethyst@social.treehouse.systems]

@sayonaraminasan @artemis

is it, though?

all 'enshittification' actually is is a white person thinking he's clever for describing the race to the bottom that is a cornerstone of capitalism. we didn't need a word for that.

[artemis@dice.camp]

Oh, I guess the post is from 2025, not 2026, so that's much better, obviously. I'm sure he's learned a lot since then.

/s

[johnzajac@dice.camp]

@artemis

I guess "thoughtless" is the new look for influencers who are self-destructing

[steff@soc.femme.cat]

@artemis@dice.camp Like Cory, in my edgy 20's I made a similar - though much deeper - counter argument of Lorde's assertion. Then I thought deeper and performed more self and systemic reflection and corrected myself. The problem with Cory's statement is that he flippantly doesn't understand the breadth of what the Master's Tools are (eg. capitalism, racism, sexism, etc) and thus second order tools (eg. AI, corporate operations, liberal regulatory frameworks) which all rest well within the Toolbox. It's simply a bad, dumb take which is suited to a liberal mind that believes they both understand and can fix the systemic problems of our culture, while maintaining their own power and influence.

[johnzajac@dice.camp]

@theynege @artemis

You can't use the master's tools because either he gave them to you or he used them to oppress and enslave you, and either way they are ineffective or they are immoral.

The statement is intended to make you think critically about power itself. In that way it's fundamentally anarchist in nature.

[sayonaraminasan@urusai.social]

@VulpineAmethyst Hahaha fair point. We all did feel that was what was happening before he coined that term.

@artemis

[dgold@goblin.technology]

@mynameistillian @artemis he did not, in fact, understand a single word she wrote.

I'm sure he was very impressed that he read Lorde, and will have been told how impressed other people around him are.

[johnzajac@dice.camp]

@theynege @artemis

I will say that my husband and I were talking about Lorde's statement just last night and we realized that while the master's tools can't dismantle his house, the master himself can dismantle his house all on his own if he's a big enough fool.

[jellyfriend@plush.city]

@artemis bad bad vibes from that particular nerd since like 2005 tbh. The whole BoingBoing crew have aged like a wide selection of dairy produce.

[asweetgentleman@mstdn.social]

@artemis So basically the guy's saying "the metaphor illustrating this concept is incorrect therefore the idea must be incorrect."

That's a well-known technique used to deflect attention from the real issue when you have no argument.