@26pglt Yikes, how did you guess their dad was this way? I would have thought since I raised them that they would see what I daily or at least weekly cleaned. But, nope. I do think that common issues has their first point: they really are oblivious and then: they don’t feel it’s that important to clean. And I’m not known for being a super picky cleaner. I just get enraged that bending over to pick up an errant potato peel would just not happen unless I pointed it out and asked them to pick it up.