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  • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA This user is from outside of this forum
    ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

    Two things:
    1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

    2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

    annika@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA alsweigart@mastodon.socialA miah@hachyderm.ioM koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK 33 Replies Last reply
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    • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

      Two things:
      1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

      2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

      annika@xoxo.zoneA This user is from outside of this forum
      annika@xoxo.zoneA This user is from outside of this forum
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      @Ashedryden Ugh. Sharing in the TKTK Discord

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      • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

        Two things:
        1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

        2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

        ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA This user is from outside of this forum
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        You can see how this is leading down a very dark path, right? You don’t have to be a science fiction author to be able to extrapolate from here.

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        • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

          RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

          Two things:
          1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

          2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

          alsweigart@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @Ashedryden I live in New York and decided to go without my phone. I was a few feet from my front door when I realized I couldn't get the bike share bike without the app. I signed up to get the keycard. After it arrived, I found it doesn't work on any bike stations.

          I thought about how to navigate the world without a phone number. The only people who do that are either very wealthy, or homeless.

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          • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

            RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

            Two things:
            1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

            2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

            miah@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
            miah@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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            @Ashedryden Guess its time to spin up a mumble service!

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            • alsweigart@mastodon.socialA alsweigart@mastodon.social

              @Ashedryden I live in New York and decided to go without my phone. I was a few feet from my front door when I realized I couldn't get the bike share bike without the app. I signed up to get the keycard. After it arrived, I found it doesn't work on any bike stations.

              I thought about how to navigate the world without a phone number. The only people who do that are either very wealthy, or homeless.

              ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @AlSweigart I went to a protest without a phone and realized I couldn’t easily find out when buses come or pay for the fare because everything is so cash averse now

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              • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                You can see how this is leading down a very dark path, right? You don’t have to be a science fiction author to be able to extrapolate from here.

                annika@xoxo.zoneA This user is from outside of this forum
                annika@xoxo.zoneA This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @Ashedryden TIL there was already an update to the "nobody knows you're a dog" cartoon. 11 years since the revision and it's still getting worse https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/irl-on-the-internet-no-one-knows-youre-doggo/

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                • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                  RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                  Two things:
                  1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                  2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                  koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @Ashedryden Couldn't this be trivially bypassed using a deepfake setup (making the whole thing null and void)?

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                  • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

                    @Ashedryden Couldn't this be trivially bypassed using a deepfake setup (making the whole thing null and void)?

                    ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @koen_hufkens depends on what they’re doing for verification

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                    • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                      @koen_hufkens depends on what they’re doing for verification

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                      @Ashedryden We will see soon enough.

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                      • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

                        @Ashedryden We will see soon enough.

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                        koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @Ashedryden Someone should make a biometric randomization app already, which takes your likeness and then change the core face metrics randomly.

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                        • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                          RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                          Two things:
                          1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                          2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                          thetenuousorder@meow.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @Ashedryden dammit.

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                          • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                            RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                            Two things:
                            1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                            2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                            jmax@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @Ashedryden Also, we're giving the kids a reason to investigate decentralized services.

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                            • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                              RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                              Two things:
                              1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                              2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                              gourd@indiepocalypse.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @Ashedryden it's not like they had an age verification information breach announced uh, three months ago or anything </sarcasm>

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                              • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                                RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                Two things:
                                1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                                flashmobofone@mastodon.artF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @Ashedryden I don't know that I agree.

                                Your information is already in all of these systems, especially if you're walking around with a tracking device in your pocket via your phone. The ID verification is just a legal formality only an adult can fulfill.

                                Secondly, given the excessive damage so much of the corporate Internet is doing to our species' collective cognitive ability, I think regulation is becoming essential, as we are incapable of self-regulating even in the knowledge of the harm.

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                                • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                                  RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                  Two things:
                                  1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                  2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                                  netraven@hear-me.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @Ashedryden I wish people could of ALWAYS seen this coming.

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                                  • netraven@hear-me.socialN netraven@hear-me.social

                                    @Ashedryden I wish people could of ALWAYS seen this coming.

                                    fiend_unpleasant@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @Netraven @Ashedryden some of us saw this happening 20 years ago but everyone called us dorks and conspiracy theorists.

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                                    • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                      Two things:
                                      1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                      2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                                      trashwizard@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @Ashedryden It'll be unsustainable too. The tier that requires ID will see a precipitous drop in access and traffic, by design.

                                      I would speculate that whoever's pushing these rules knows that the majority of people won't give up their IDs to these random services, either through apathy ("I don't have time for this") or because it's a bad idea. Only massive platforms like Youtube will get people to jump through those hoops for access.

                                      Painting everything the same shade of beige is the point.

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                                      • fiend_unpleasant@mastodon.socialF fiend_unpleasant@mastodon.social

                                        @Netraven @Ashedryden some of us saw this happening 20 years ago but everyone called us dorks and conspiracy theorists.

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                                        @fiend_unpleasant @Ashedryden

                                        It's almost high time to take back IRC. All the epstein-owned 4channers and lowlife trolls are almost all dead or moved on to psych wards or careers in politics.

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                                        • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                                          RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                          Two things:
                                          1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                          2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                                          phantasus@fedi.atP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @Ashedryden This is already the case of being excluded from the web. If you "choose" to hang around only on non-bigtech sites, then you are already excluded. If you have some principles then you are already excluded.

                                          This is just another straw on the camels back.

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