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Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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  • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

    Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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    Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

    Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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    @dangillmor Google shouldn’t put it like that; otherwise, their cars will end up being flipped upside down by an angry member of the public wielding a shovel.

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    • fenixmaster@mastodon.socialF fenixmaster@mastodon.social

      @dangillmor Google shouldn’t put it like that; otherwise, their cars will end up being flipped upside down by an angry member of the public wielding a shovel.

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      @dangillmor The tires, it is always the tires, the weakest point of a car.

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      • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

        Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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        Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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        @dangillmor @paulk Grief! These things are going to be so unpredictable that they will be lethal and should just be banned.

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        • fenixmaster@mastodon.socialF fenixmaster@mastodon.social

          @dangillmor The tires, it is always the tires, the weakest point of a car.

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          @fenixmaster @dangillmor Or just some chalk (or salt) ...

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          • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

            Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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            Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

            Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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            @dangillmor Which problem do these self-driving vehicles solve, which issue is so pressing, that we have to dedicate development time and sacrifice existing infrastructure? We don’t need flying taxis and self driving cars. We need separate bicycle lanes, affordable and reliable public transport, clean air, etc. which benefit all, not just some tech companies.

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            • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

              Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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              Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

              Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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              @dangillmor finally. A robot takes care of them. Where can I buy the anti cyclist feature

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              • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

                Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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                Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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                @dangillmor I'm not surprised about this seeing where they trained...

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                • nakedgerry@mastodon.socialN nakedgerry@mastodon.social

                  @dangillmor @paulk Grief! These things are going to be so unpredictable that they will be lethal and should just be banned.

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                  @nakedgerry People don't matter, clearly.

                  @dangillmor

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                  • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

                    Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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                    Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

                    Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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                    @dangillmor "Terminator". It just looks different, but it's coming.

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                    • nakedgerry@mastodon.socialN nakedgerry@mastodon.social

                      @dangillmor @paulk Grief! These things are going to be so unpredictable that they will be lethal and should just be banned.

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                      @nakedgerry It's "Terminator". It just looks different.

                      @dangillmor

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                      • newint@todon.nlN newint@todon.nl

                        @dangillmor Which problem do these self-driving vehicles solve, which issue is so pressing, that we have to dedicate development time and sacrifice existing infrastructure? We don’t need flying taxis and self driving cars. We need separate bicycle lanes, affordable and reliable public transport, clean air, etc. which benefit all, not just some tech companies.

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                        @newint @dangillmor The "problem" is that humans need to eat and therefore don't act as drivers for free, which means their pay reduces the profits of the broligarchs.

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                        • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

                          Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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                          Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

                          Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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                          @dangillmor TBH, I'd consider any Cyclist poppin' 9x19mm +P+ SJHP (regular 9mm.won't go through tires) into any of those shit vehicles' tires an act of "self & mutual defense" against murder by car…

                          • Or just place Calthrops on the markings if not sprinkle them before said cars.

                          #Sarcasm #Commentary #NotLegalAdvice #Waymo #CarBrain #CarCentrism #cycling #safety #RoadSafety

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                          • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

                            Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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                            Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

                            Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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                            @dangillmor if this is the future count me out.

                            But also... this makes a stronger argument for separate zones and bike lanes protected by some kind of barrier. I'm also strongly in favour of less space to be given to cars altogether - the emphasis for future planning should be more pedestrian / cycle and public transport.

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                            • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

                              Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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                              Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

                              Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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                              @dangillmor The idea that they're just going to run people and cyclists over willy nilly is absurd. I work in the industry (not for Waymo) and dealt with multiple scenarios where pedestrians would jump out in front of our cars on purpose.

                              Is that a stupid thing to do? Yes, but the cars wouldn't hit them. Because it can't. The have collision detection that will stop the car. We even ran a test where we tried to make it hit a child-sized dummy, and it just wouldn't do it.

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                              • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

                                Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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                                Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

                                Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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                                @dangillmor to be fair - I've seen a lot of taxis WITH drivers do this 🫩 nobody seems to care 🤬

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                                • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

                                  Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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                                  Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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                                  @dangillmor In perfect accordance with the "[my] rules based" -- not Law based -- order, commonly applied and augmented by State-level politicians these days.

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                                  • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

                                    Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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                                    Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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                                    @dangillmor Wait until the lawsuits start rolling in...

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                                      @dangillmor The idea that they're just going to run people and cyclists over willy nilly is absurd. I work in the industry (not for Waymo) and dealt with multiple scenarios where pedestrians would jump out in front of our cars on purpose.

                                      Is that a stupid thing to do? Yes, but the cars wouldn't hit them. Because it can't. The have collision detection that will stop the car. We even ran a test where we tried to make it hit a child-sized dummy, and it just wouldn't do it.

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                                      @gogojack @dangillmor The discussion is not about autonomous cars driving over people, it's about cyclists being "doored" by autonomous cars programmed to illegally stop in bike lanes.

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                                      • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

                                        Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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                                        Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

                                        Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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                                        @dangillmor there might need to be some work on that. I wonder if crosshatching or colouring a section of cycleway and drawing a box in the other lane at suitable points on roads to require stopping Waymos to stop in the box and warning everyone there may be crossings of the bike lane would work. Otherwise it is floating stops etc.

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                                        • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

                                          Google's antonymous taxi company says it won't obey traffic safety laws because its customers want convenience, so screw those bicyclists who don't want to be injured or killed.

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                                          Waymo, the autonomous driving tech firm whose so-called ‘robo-taxis’ are now roaming the streets of London, has allegedly told cycling campaigners that expecting their driverless cars to respect cycle lanes is “too high a bar” – because their customers want to be dropped off in them.But Waymo has denied making such a claim, instead pointing ... Read more

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                                          @dangillmor Ever the manic pursuit of ever more profit blinding the greedy to the plight of the rest of humanity.

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