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Love how "elitist" now just means "has the audacity to know things."

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  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

    Love how "elitist" now just means "has the audacity to know things." Went to university? Elitist. Read a book? Elitist. Can point to a country on a map? Elitist. Meanwhile a man with a gold toilet is a man of the people.

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    @Daojoan Sticks by their choices and morals even when doing so isn't perfectly convenient? *Definitely* elitist.

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    • dp0@mastodon.socialD dp0@mastodon.social

      @mrundkvist @Daojoan
      That is actually what I said: People turning away from information is exactly what I meant when speaking of the new means. Everyone has access to information and knowledge, so people need to be instigated to turn away from it. And this done by providing false information and creating doubt regarding the accessible real and factual information.

      In the past, poverty and oppression were easy means to keep people uneducated. Today, more proactive ways are required.

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      @DP0 @Daojoan
      Why then didn't you and I turn away? We have the same access.

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        @ariaflame There's actual royalty from major countries that are more connected to people's daily lives.

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        @Halaana @ariaflame Norway has left the chat.

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        • mrundkvist@archaeo.socialM mrundkvist@archaeo.social

          @DP0 @Daojoan
          Why then didn't you and I turn away? We have the same access.

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          @mrundkvist @Daojoan What makes you think we couldn't turn away, too? There are many reasons, why we haven't yet: maybe we were not the targeted audience (i.e., too left to be flipped), we were not sufficiently exposed (no Facebook, no Shitter, etc), we were too proficient in the field on which the disinformation was spread, etc.

          Disinformation works like a virus: if you don't have the receptors, you're immune. But make no mistake: there may be a virus out there matching your receptors.

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          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

            Love how "elitist" now just means "has the audacity to know things." Went to university? Elitist. Read a book? Elitist. Can point to a country on a map? Elitist. Meanwhile a man with a gold toilet is a man of the people.

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            @Daojoan It's not elitist to go to university. It's elitist to believe the only way you can prove you are smart or educated is to give tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars for a piece of paper with your name on it. Our entire labor market and social culture is based on that notion. And like, I think the viewing of Trump as a man of the people is dumb, too...but this post is dangerously close to equating poor with dumb. And I think that's probably what people are referring to.

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            • dp0@mastodon.socialD dp0@mastodon.social

              @mrundkvist @Daojoan What makes you think we couldn't turn away, too? There are many reasons, why we haven't yet: maybe we were not the targeted audience (i.e., too left to be flipped), we were not sufficiently exposed (no Facebook, no Shitter, etc), we were too proficient in the field on which the disinformation was spread, etc.

              Disinformation works like a virus: if you don't have the receptors, you're immune. But make no mistake: there may be a virus out there matching your receptors.

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              @DP0 @Daojoan
              So you mean that education doesn't help. This suggests to me that it's a pretty bad idea to let me vote.

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              • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                Love how "elitist" now just means "has the audacity to know things." Went to university? Elitist. Read a book? Elitist. Can point to a country on a map? Elitist. Meanwhile a man with a gold toilet is a man of the people.

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                @Daojoan Nigel Farage, man of the people, hero of the working class, was a commodities trader back when he was in the Tory party.

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                • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                  Love how "elitist" now just means "has the audacity to know things." Went to university? Elitist. Read a book? Elitist. Can point to a country on a map? Elitist. Meanwhile a man with a gold toilet is a man of the people.

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                  @Daojoan If knowledge is power, most of us on mastodon must be at least demigods.

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                  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                    Love how "elitist" now just means "has the audacity to know things." Went to university? Elitist. Read a book? Elitist. Can point to a country on a map? Elitist. Meanwhile a man with a gold toilet is a man of the people.

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                    @Daojoan

                    Just means thinking for yourself using facts instead of following the herd based on emotion …

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                    • mrundkvist@archaeo.socialM mrundkvist@archaeo.social

                      @DP0 @Daojoan
                      So you mean that education doesn't help. This suggests to me that it's a pretty bad idea to let me vote.

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                      @mrundkvist @DP0 @Daojoan It's the worst idea, except for all the others that have been tried.

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                      • nicolai@babka.socialN nicolai@babka.social

                        @Daojoan what it really means is „has access to methods of thinking that not all people have but which are seen as mandatory for being heard and being able to speak politically“. And that is a real cause that unfortunately mostly terrible people really for. Other people do not really rally for it because it is an uncomfortable truth that one actually needs that method and that we indeed exclude people who can’t use it and that there is no good answer that could make them feel actually able to participate instead of just technically able to participate but without any chance of being heard.

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                        @nicolai Apart from a severeintellectual disability, what can block someone access to certain methods of thinking in year 2026?

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                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                          Love how "elitist" now just means "has the audacity to know things." Went to university? Elitist. Read a book? Elitist. Can point to a country on a map? Elitist. Meanwhile a man with a gold toilet is a man of the people.

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                          @Daojoan There was a cartoon of an eagle tearing apart a book with the caption “Reading is for f******”.

                          I’m somewhat sure it was intended as a dark parody and cultural commentary, but a terrifying number of people I’ve run into actually do feel that way.

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                          • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                            @Daojoan It's not elitist to go to university. It's elitist to believe the only way you can prove you are smart or educated is to give tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars for a piece of paper with your name on it. Our entire labor market and social culture is based on that notion. And like, I think the viewing of Trump as a man of the people is dumb, too...but this post is dangerously close to equating poor with dumb. And I think that's probably what people are referring to.

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                            @smutmag @Daojoan there’s no way you misread that badly on accident.

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                            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                              Love how "elitist" now just means "has the audacity to know things." Went to university? Elitist. Read a book? Elitist. Can point to a country on a map? Elitist. Meanwhile a man with a gold toilet is a man of the people.

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                              @Daojoan

                              Populism always maintains the "elite" as the enemy. It is also frequently used as a tool of authoritarians. And under authoritarian-populism, those with power and money are never the enemy: those with knowledge and the capability to share it are.

                              The good news is that they fear what can undo them. We don't need money and power to end this madness: we only need knowledge, and the courage to share it freely.

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                              • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                Love how "elitist" now just means "has the audacity to know things." Went to university? Elitist. Read a book? Elitist. Can point to a country on a map? Elitist. Meanwhile a man with a gold toilet is a man of the people.

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                                @Daojoan Is that because everyone is striving to have a gold toilet?

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                                • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                  Love how "elitist" now just means "has the audacity to know things." Went to university? Elitist. Read a book? Elitist. Can point to a country on a map? Elitist. Meanwhile a man with a gold toilet is a man of the people.

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                                  @Daojoan
                                  Elitist = Epstein Class

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                                  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                    Love how "elitist" now just means "has the audacity to know things." Went to university? Elitist. Read a book? Elitist. Can point to a country on a map? Elitist. Meanwhile a man with a gold toilet is a man of the people.

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                                    @Daojoan There's always been a strong anti-intellectual element in our society, that much is not new. But yeah, lately it seems that knob has been cranked to 11.

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                                    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                      Love how "elitist" now just means "has the audacity to know things." Went to university? Elitist. Read a book? Elitist. Can point to a country on a map? Elitist. Meanwhile a man with a gold toilet is a man of the people.

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                                      @Daojoan

                                      Sounds like a Republican trend

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                                      • els@sfba.socialE els@sfba.social

                                        @Daojoan Is that because everyone is striving to have a gold toilet?

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                                        @ELS @Daojoan

                                        I don't know why anyone would want a gold toilet. That thing sounds like a nightmare to sit on. Can you imagine sitting your butt on a chunk of bare metal on a cold morning?

                                        Guess it's a nice perfect symbol of shallow and meaningless wealth though.

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                                        • mrundkvist@archaeo.socialM mrundkvist@archaeo.social

                                          @DP0 @Daojoan
                                          So you mean that education doesn't help. This suggests to me that it's a pretty bad idea to let me vote.

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                                          @mrundkvist @Daojoan No, I am just saying that everyone can be fooled. Believing that this is not the case is dangerous.

                                          Of course, education helps building up resilience against disinformation. And, indeed, some people are more resilient to disinformation than others. However, everyone has their soft spot, a weakness or just an area where they're not so proficient. And one should bei aware of that as this also is an expression of a free, open, and resilient mind: know your weakness.

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