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  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

    RE: https://infosec.exchange/@jerry/116242195809861609

    I know what—I have an even worse business plan! Why don't we build all our new fission reactors IN SPAAACE? That way we'll be safe from the radiation and any meltdowns!

    Also me: I am a teapot, short and stout: this is my handle and this is my spout …

    /s

    shinydan@mendeddrum.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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    @cstross a teapot? are you in orbit around Saturn?

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    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

      RE: https://infosec.exchange/@jerry/116242195809861609

      I know what—I have an even worse business plan! Why don't we build all our new fission reactors IN SPAAACE? That way we'll be safe from the radiation and any meltdowns!

      Also me: I am a teapot, short and stout: this is my handle and this is my spout …

      /s

      cerement@social.targaryen.houseC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #3

      @cstross

      why aim for a normal Kessler syndrome when you can have a radioactive Kessler syndrome?

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      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

        RE: https://infosec.exchange/@jerry/116242195809861609

        I know what—I have an even worse business plan! Why don't we build all our new fission reactors IN SPAAACE? That way we'll be safe from the radiation and any meltdowns!

        Also me: I am a teapot, short and stout: this is my handle and this is my spout …

        /s

        etchedpixels@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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        #4

        @cstross I seem to remember an Asimov (?) story about something similar with ultra dangerous for power generation but even Asimov picked the back side of the moon not deep space.

        It would be kind of poetic justice though if a space based Musk data centre got taken out by a stray starlink.

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        • shinydan@mendeddrum.orgS shinydan@mendeddrum.org

          @cstross a teapot? are you in orbit around Saturn?

          woe2you@beige.partyW This user is from outside of this forum
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          @shinydan @cstross HTTP 418.

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          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

            RE: https://infosec.exchange/@jerry/116242195809861609

            I know what—I have an even worse business plan! Why don't we build all our new fission reactors IN SPAAACE? That way we'll be safe from the radiation and any meltdowns!

            Also me: I am a teapot, short and stout: this is my handle and this is my spout …

            /s

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            @cstross I mean I've seen the proposals for project Orion. Datacenters in space are dumb but not instantly apocalypticly dumb.

            I mean they are apocalypticly dumb, but over a long time scale than a single launch.

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            • etchedpixels@mastodon.socialE etchedpixels@mastodon.social

              @cstross I seem to remember an Asimov (?) story about something similar with ultra dangerous for power generation but even Asimov picked the back side of the moon not deep space.

              It would be kind of poetic justice though if a space based Musk data centre got taken out by a stray starlink.

              infoseepage@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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              @etchedpixels @cstross You might be thinking of Asimov's story Reason, in which the main computer onboard a power beaming station develops religion and a rather skewed view of the universe and the humans are horrified because they're unable to wrest control from the robots who have become disciples of the main computer and if the beam drifts even a little bit it would fry anything it glances over on the surface.

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              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                RE: https://infosec.exchange/@jerry/116242195809861609

                I know what—I have an even worse business plan! Why don't we build all our new fission reactors IN SPAAACE? That way we'll be safe from the radiation and any meltdowns!

                Also me: I am a teapot, short and stout: this is my handle and this is my spout …

                /s

                cinebox@masto.hackers.townC This user is from outside of this forum
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                @cstross nobody wants to invest in my plan to put water treatment plants in orbit.

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                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                  RE: https://infosec.exchange/@jerry/116242195809861609

                  I know what—I have an even worse business plan! Why don't we build all our new fission reactors IN SPAAACE? That way we'll be safe from the radiation and any meltdowns!

                  Also me: I am a teapot, short and stout: this is my handle and this is my spout …

                  /s

                  zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.placeZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #9

                  @cstross Okay, let me see if I have a handle on this…

                  ⁃ Musk wants to IPO SpaceX.
                  ⁃ So he wants to merge SpaceX and his AI company, because SpaceX looks better if he can glue in the $N-billion investments that he's getting for AI stuff.
                  ⁃ He shouts “AI datacenters in space!" This has no business or economic meaning; it's just stringing VC buzzwords together for a SpaceX/XAI merger.
                  ⁃ Nvidia says “Sure, boss, we can do you an AI-in-space chip.”

                  zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.placeZ chu@climatejustice.socialC gyrosgeier@hachyderm.ioG redsakana@infosec.exchangeR target@infosec.exchangeT 5 Replies Last reply
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                  • zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.placeZ zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    @cstross Okay, let me see if I have a handle on this…

                    ⁃ Musk wants to IPO SpaceX.
                    ⁃ So he wants to merge SpaceX and his AI company, because SpaceX looks better if he can glue in the $N-billion investments that he's getting for AI stuff.
                    ⁃ He shouts “AI datacenters in space!" This has no business or economic meaning; it's just stringing VC buzzwords together for a SpaceX/XAI merger.
                    ⁃ Nvidia says “Sure, boss, we can do you an AI-in-space chip.”

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                    #10

                    @cstross My assumption would be that Nvidia asks for a giant bucket of money and eventually gives Musk an off-the-shelf chip with a “SPAAAACE" sticker on it. But I don't know. The kabuki theater could get deep on both sides.

                    wordshaper@weatherishappening.networkW notthelbcguy@mstdn.socialN marcink@stolat.townM seachaint@masto.hackers.townS adamrice@c.imA 5 Replies Last reply
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                    • zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.placeZ zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      @cstross My assumption would be that Nvidia asks for a giant bucket of money and eventually gives Musk an off-the-shelf chip with a “SPAAAACE" sticker on it. But I don't know. The kabuki theater could get deep on both sides.

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                      @zarfeblong @cstross Jensen is as much a carnival barker and public bullshitter as Elon, except he's actually competent and doing far fewer drugs. I have no doubt he'll play along with this nonsense as long as it boosts his stock, and as soon as it stops he'll loudly slam the idea to get a second stock bump from his cleverly dodging some stupid.

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                      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                        RE: https://infosec.exchange/@jerry/116242195809861609

                        I know what—I have an even worse business plan! Why don't we build all our new fission reactors IN SPAAACE? That way we'll be safe from the radiation and any meltdowns!

                        Also me: I am a teapot, short and stout: this is my handle and this is my spout …

                        /s

                        darkling@mstdn.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #12

                        @cstross Wait a sec, I'm just going to start up a company to run the cabling for them down to the ground.

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                        • zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.placeZ zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          @cstross My assumption would be that Nvidia asks for a giant bucket of money and eventually gives Musk an off-the-shelf chip with a “SPAAAACE" sticker on it. But I don't know. The kabuki theater could get deep on both sides.

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                          @zarfeblong @cstross Nvidia will loan SpaceX $10bn in advance customer preferential loans, which SpaceX will turn around and give straight back to Nvidia to fund custom chip development, and both companies together will claim to have added $20bn in shareholder value.

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                          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                            RE: https://infosec.exchange/@jerry/116242195809861609

                            I know what—I have an even worse business plan! Why don't we build all our new fission reactors IN SPAAACE? That way we'll be safe from the radiation and any meltdowns!

                            Also me: I am a teapot, short and stout: this is my handle and this is my spout …

                            /s

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                            #14

                            @cstross Special orbital datacenter GPU version.

                            That's going to be, what, an S3 Virge, to make the power and heat requirements vaguely within cooee of realistic?

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                            • zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.placeZ zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              @cstross Okay, let me see if I have a handle on this…

                              ⁃ Musk wants to IPO SpaceX.
                              ⁃ So he wants to merge SpaceX and his AI company, because SpaceX looks better if he can glue in the $N-billion investments that he's getting for AI stuff.
                              ⁃ He shouts “AI datacenters in space!" This has no business or economic meaning; it's just stringing VC buzzwords together for a SpaceX/XAI merger.
                              ⁃ Nvidia says “Sure, boss, we can do you an AI-in-space chip.”

                              chu@climatejustice.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @zarfeblong @cstross

                              Huang, and the entirety of TW will play along as long as they can to keep the US happy. The Chinese threat is such that they will smile and nod to just about any level of stupidity right now and hang onto what they see as their lifeline of survival.

                              I don't know how long this can last though.

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                              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                RE: https://infosec.exchange/@jerry/116242195809861609

                                I know what—I have an even worse business plan! Why don't we build all our new fission reactors IN SPAAACE? That way we'll be safe from the radiation and any meltdowns!

                                Also me: I am a teapot, short and stout: this is my handle and this is my spout …

                                /s

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                                @cstross

                                I keep trying to buy access to the output of that one space based fusion reactor but I need the rest of the building to agree to using our rooftop for that

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                                • zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.placeZ zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  @cstross My assumption would be that Nvidia asks for a giant bucket of money and eventually gives Musk an off-the-shelf chip with a “SPAAAACE" sticker on it. But I don't know. The kabuki theater could get deep on both sides.

                                  marcink@stolat.townM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @zarfeblong @cstross Or they tell him that technically all data centers are already in space.

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                                  • zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.placeZ zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    @cstross Okay, let me see if I have a handle on this…

                                    ⁃ Musk wants to IPO SpaceX.
                                    ⁃ So he wants to merge SpaceX and his AI company, because SpaceX looks better if he can glue in the $N-billion investments that he's getting for AI stuff.
                                    ⁃ He shouts “AI datacenters in space!" This has no business or economic meaning; it's just stringing VC buzzwords together for a SpaceX/XAI merger.
                                    ⁃ Nvidia says “Sure, boss, we can do you an AI-in-space chip.”

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                                    @zarfeblong @cstross also, disrupting the market for solar panels

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                                    • zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.placeZ zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      @cstross Okay, let me see if I have a handle on this…

                                      ⁃ Musk wants to IPO SpaceX.
                                      ⁃ So he wants to merge SpaceX and his AI company, because SpaceX looks better if he can glue in the $N-billion investments that he's getting for AI stuff.
                                      ⁃ He shouts “AI datacenters in space!" This has no business or economic meaning; it's just stringing VC buzzwords together for a SpaceX/XAI merger.
                                      ⁃ Nvidia says “Sure, boss, we can do you an AI-in-space chip.”

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                                      @zarfeblong I think it's the other way around. SpaceX IPO as-is would be fine, a lot of people want to buy it, they have actual tech, product and revenue. Meanwhile xAI is, even by AI company standards, a piece of shit burning through money and recently also losing quite a few top people with not that much to show for it.

                                      Musk would still like his AI though, so the idea is to have people who want to buy SpaceX subsidize xAI. He is also astroturfing the numbers and pulling strings to get the SpaceX+xAI monstrosity into one of the big indexes so index funds would effectively prop up the price. See yesterday's piece on Alphaville: https://www.ft.com/content/59adbe42-ca30-47f3-9cda-5415945e9368 (registration probably required) @cstross

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                                      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                        RE: https://infosec.exchange/@jerry/116242195809861609

                                        I know what—I have an even worse business plan! Why don't we build all our new fission reactors IN SPAAACE? That way we'll be safe from the radiation and any meltdowns!

                                        Also me: I am a teapot, short and stout: this is my handle and this is my spout …

                                        /s

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                                        @cstross Next we know Big Orange will give up Greenland and lay claim to all possible orbital slots.

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                                        • zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.placeZ zarfeblong@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          @cstross My assumption would be that Nvidia asks for a giant bucket of money and eventually gives Musk an off-the-shelf chip with a “SPAAAACE" sticker on it. But I don't know. The kabuki theater could get deep on both sides.

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                                          @zarfeblong @cstross Probably it'll have an optimised sleep instruction, given that's what it'll spend most of its time doing because of heat buildup

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