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  3. Does anyone have a screepcap or link saved of the interaction about a decade ago when a trans girl on reddit asked an adult cis man how often he thought about being a girl and his answer was something like "I dont think ive ever thought about that".

Does anyone have a screepcap or link saved of the interaction about a decade ago when a trans girl on reddit asked an adult cis man how often he thought about being a girl and his answer was something like "I dont think ive ever thought about that".

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  • glowtayto@critter.cafeG glowtayto@critter.cafe

    @siege The sentence-to-sentence juxtapositions are next level.

    "it hurts"/"no pain"

    "no desire for change"/"yearn [...] to be reborn"

    I hope she figured herself out.

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    @glowtayto hey look, i cant judge, i managed to have a whole heart to heart conversation with one of my closest friends where i came out as trans to them. And then a week later I realised i was trans.

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    • siege@masto.hackers.townS siege@masto.hackers.town

      @glowtayto hey look, i cant judge, i managed to have a whole heart to heart conversation with one of my closest friends where i came out as trans to them. And then a week later I realised i was trans.

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      @siege Oh, no judgement. I used to fantasize about waking up one day having been somehow Freaky-Fridayed into a girl's body, so I feel her vibe. Yet it still took me until my late 30s to figure myself out.

      More the English nerd in me being like, "Ah, masterful use of contrast to demonstrate a state of inner turmoil."

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      • glowtayto@critter.cafeG glowtayto@critter.cafe

        @siege Oh, no judgement. I used to fantasize about waking up one day having been somehow Freaky-Fridayed into a girl's body, so I feel her vibe. Yet it still took me until my late 30s to figure myself out.

        More the English nerd in me being like, "Ah, masterful use of contrast to demonstrate a state of inner turmoil."

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        @glowtayto i am quietly plotting a freaky-friday marathon on my discord movie night crew.

        All films where people swap bodies or create a version of themselves in another body (preferably gender swapping) ala Virtual Sexuality

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        • siege@masto.hackers.townS siege@masto.hackers.town

          eg: closeted trans girl who will state "im not sure if im trans, i dont hate being a guy, im not sure if i want to be a woman but its an idea that comes up sometimes"

          translation: I would make a pact with an unholy demon to be turned into a girl right now, please, are you an unholy demon? please tell me you are

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          @siege oh wow this described me so well

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            @moiety i love that no matter how many years go by, we are still the same shape. No amount of trans awareness can compete with the power of self denial

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            • siege@masto.hackers.townS siege@masto.hackers.town

              eg: closeted trans girl who will state "im not sure if im trans, i dont hate being a guy, im not sure if i want to be a woman but its an idea that comes up sometimes"

              translation: I would make a pact with an unholy demon to be turned into a girl right now, please, are you an unholy demon? please tell me you are

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              @siege can I screenshot or quote this thread?

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              • charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.twC charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.tw

                @siege can I screenshot or quote this thread?

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                @CharlotteEowyn for sure

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                • siege@masto.hackers.townS siege@masto.hackers.town

                  eg: closeted trans girl who will state "im not sure if im trans, i dont hate being a guy, im not sure if i want to be a woman but its an idea that comes up sometimes"

                  translation: I would make a pact with an unholy demon to be turned into a girl right now, please, are you an unholy demon? please tell me you are

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                  @siege

                  Verbatim.

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                  • faithisleaping@anarres.familyF faithisleaping@anarres.family

                    @siege OMFG! That's the most eggy thing I've ever read. Also, I could have written it 5 years ago.

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                    @faithisleaping @siege okay wait, who downloaded the thoughts from my brain three years ago and posted them?

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                    • siege@masto.hackers.townS siege@masto.hackers.town

                      eg: closeted trans girl who will state "im not sure if im trans, i dont hate being a guy, im not sure if i want to be a woman but its an idea that comes up sometimes"

                      translation: I would make a pact with an unholy demon to be turned into a girl right now, please, are you an unholy demon? please tell me you are

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                      @siege As soon as I ran the thought experiment of “Would you push this button that turns you into a woman?” it was basically all over for me. I didn’t know it yet, but it was *all* over.

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                      • joblakely@mastodon.socialJ joblakely@mastodon.social

                        @siege they could be non-binary. I am. I have behaviors & likes that are gendered male BY PATRIARCHY. I prefer male style. It never felt taboo bc women could play with menswear. But I have a very feminine body I find sexy even to myself. I feel whole & balanced having the body I was born with & my mind with both socially constructed genders as just one ‘me’. But I did check in with myself & it’s how I know.
                        We may be queer and not fit into your binary about what trans is, but we are here.

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                        @JoBlakely

                        We may be queer and not fit into your binary about what trans is, but we are here.

                        this!

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                        • siege@masto.hackers.townS siege@masto.hackers.town

                          this was just brought to my attention so im including it for any cis people who have read any of this and are curious what sort of shape the people im talking about are in:

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                          @siege physically painful to read

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                          • prinlu@0x.trans.failP prinlu@0x.trans.fail

                            @JoBlakely

                            We may be queer and not fit into your binary about what trans is, but we are here.

                            this!

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                            @prinlu @JoBlakely hello yes I fell seen

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                            • siege@masto.hackers.townS siege@masto.hackers.town

                              this was just brought to my attention so im including it for any cis people who have read any of this and are curious what sort of shape the people im talking about are in:

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                              @siege oof rough one that 🫂

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                              • siege@masto.hackers.townS siege@masto.hackers.town

                                @JoscelynTransient like any warm blooded man i too yearn to be dead so i can live again as a cute girly girl uwu

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                                @siege @JoscelynTransient I think it depends on how you define "trans".

                                From the outside, it's basically "live as another gender", with a spectrum ranging from "occasionally/for fun" to surgery/name change/etc.

                                If from the inside it's "fantasize about being another gender", then it would explain your reactions just as well as that screenshot.

                                I posted something a few years ago along those lines here, and the overwhelmingly kind reaction has been to effectively include me as trans. But I am...

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                                • jens@social.finkhaeuser.deJ jens@social.finkhaeuser.de

                                  @siege @JoscelynTransient I think it depends on how you define "trans".

                                  From the outside, it's basically "live as another gender", with a spectrum ranging from "occasionally/for fun" to surgery/name change/etc.

                                  If from the inside it's "fantasize about being another gender", then it would explain your reactions just as well as that screenshot.

                                  I posted something a few years ago along those lines here, and the overwhelmingly kind reaction has been to effectively include me as trans. But I am...

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                                  @siege @JoscelynTransient ... 100% convinced currently that I will never live as another gender. I say that being totally fine with people applying the trans label to me. But I don't really, in my mind.

                                  (The TL;DR is, I'm comfortable as I am, but if I could physically gender switch at will, I'd be happy to flip back and forth. Only time would tell in which form I'd spend more time.)

                                  I think there's room for an in-between zone of the trans spectrum. Perhaps that would also make it less scary?

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                                  • jens@social.finkhaeuser.deJ jens@social.finkhaeuser.de

                                    @siege @JoscelynTransient ... 100% convinced currently that I will never live as another gender. I say that being totally fine with people applying the trans label to me. But I don't really, in my mind.

                                    (The TL;DR is, I'm comfortable as I am, but if I could physically gender switch at will, I'd be happy to flip back and forth. Only time would tell in which form I'd spend more time.)

                                    I think there's room for an in-between zone of the trans spectrum. Perhaps that would also make it less scary?

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                                    @siege @JoscelynTransient For what it's worth, this almost certainly relates to the relatively high statistic correlation of autistic and trans people.

                                    The entirety of the autistic experienced, summarized, is "you do peopling wrong" - and that includes the expectations society projects onto your gender representation. It leads to a lot of introspection on what makes one "wrong", when one feels "right" on the inside.

                                    Plus, personally speaking, there's a tad more distance between my mind and...

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                                    • jens@social.finkhaeuser.deJ jens@social.finkhaeuser.de

                                      @siege @JoscelynTransient For what it's worth, this almost certainly relates to the relatively high statistic correlation of autistic and trans people.

                                      The entirety of the autistic experienced, summarized, is "you do peopling wrong" - and that includes the expectations society projects onto your gender representation. It leads to a lot of introspection on what makes one "wrong", when one feels "right" on the inside.

                                      Plus, personally speaking, there's a tad more distance between my mind and...

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                                      @siege @JoscelynTransient ... body than other folk seem to experience. I don't know if it's universal. But for me at least, it makes experimentation with the shell more "natural", because the ghost matters.

                                      At least in principle; practice is where things get too hard to bother with for the most part.

                                      It's less "yearning to be a girl", and way more "yearning to experience more lenses than one to experience life through".

                                      I don't want to presume knowing what others feel, but it would make...

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                                      • jens@social.finkhaeuser.deJ jens@social.finkhaeuser.de

                                        @siege @JoscelynTransient ... body than other folk seem to experience. I don't know if it's universal. But for me at least, it makes experimentation with the shell more "natural", because the ghost matters.

                                        At least in principle; practice is where things get too hard to bother with for the most part.

                                        It's less "yearning to be a girl", and way more "yearning to experience more lenses than one to experience life through".

                                        I don't want to presume knowing what others feel, but it would make...

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                                        @siege @JoscelynTransient ... perfect sense to me if this was the source of some folks' dysphoria at least.

                                        For me, it translated differently. I've just become stubborn about not letting others define me. And with time, getting more relaxed about this, too, because try as they might, they won't really succeed anyway.

                                        Which is a large part of why I'm comfortable as I am.

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                                        • glowtayto@critter.cafeG glowtayto@critter.cafe

                                          @siege The sentence-to-sentence juxtapositions are next level.

                                          "it hurts"/"no pain"

                                          "no desire for change"/"yearn [...] to be reborn"

                                          I hope she figured herself out.

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                                          @glowtayto wow, well noticed! That's some serious cognitive dissonance. I remember it well.
                                          Also, hello fellow potato! 🙋‍♀️
                                          @siege

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