Your phone is about to stop being yours.

[radio_azureus@ioc.exchange]

The Motorola phone I'm currently dictating this toot in, has cost me about 20 USD
I had to buy it as a replacement for one of my G2 GSMs, which means it's memory is extremely Limited.
However I can still do some simple things like working on the FediVerse.
In my country both GSM network providers stopped with / shut down the G2 networks with just 3 days notice, leaving us stranded with useless G2 GSM phones. I still have to replace six G2 GSM devices.

We just cannot afford phones on Android price levels when we only need to replace G2 GSM devices

@AAKL @joshg @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS

#GrapheneOS #google #Android #treason #programming #Age #Verification

[aburka@hachyderm.io]

@rl_dane @AAKL @Radio_Azureus @joshg @lproven I'm still unclear on whether Google's upcoming lockdown will affect alternative ROMs, or whether they will be closing even more of the source code to prevent people getting around it

[bencurthoys@mastodon.social]

@lproven we need effective anti-monopoly action from governments.

You can own an operating system or an app store, not both.

You can be a TV production company or a streaming platform, not both.

You can be an advert broker or a content provider, not both.

Forced unbundling now.

[grishka@mastodon.social]

@lproven (actually, people stopped owning phones when phone manufacturers figured out that they can put cryptographic keys into mask ROM on the SoC)

[3corns@mstdn.ca]

@lproven thanks for the update looks like they are going to be like apple and worry about the money's guessing more.backdoors @lproven

[2ruth@mastodon.social]

@lproven like, WHAT? Whoa! I'm thinking it might be time to ditch my smartphone, and just go to the laptop when I wanna get online

[scottytrees@mastodon.social]

@lproven all the android elitists for years saying android was the best, look at them now. always found it super weird to be in google's back pocket...

[johnhenrythe3rd@mastodon.social]

@lproven #jolla It's the way to go!

[mattmerk@mastodon.social]

@lproven My next phone will be a linux phone because I trust both Apple and Google as much as trust any psychopath.

[lunadragofelis@void.lgbt]

@lproven technically there's an opt-out ("advanced flow"), but they made it deliberately difficult and it's not guaranteed that it'll remain available at all

[geomaster337@mastodon.social]

@lproven Ubuntu Touch and PostmarketOS are both fun alternatives for the tech-y folks (who can get one of the supported devices)

[zetabeta@mastodon.social]

@scottytrees @lproven
short:
initial days i thought that android is open platform, somewhere 2012.

at approximately 2020, i got deeply sick of android world's control and closed components. i also learned that bootloader has some catches even when oem unlock is activated.

now i think that android stars to be lost cause.

[akamran@indieweb.social]

@lproven just filed a complaint with the NYS AG

[fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk]

@lproven re: "with no way to opt out" — i have seen a post which says there will be a *highly* convoluted way of opting out, which involves turning on developer mode and waiting 24 hours, but of course we won't really know until september.

[praetor@mstdn.social]

@tully @lproven that part is true.

[dademurphy@toot.community]

@lproven A common misconception people have about their devices, the device, the physical hardware, is yours, the software is not.

Think of it like your house, you can own the house but you can’t own the land that it’s on. If you think you own it, don’t pay your property tax and see what happens.

[vw_guy@mastodon.social]

@Radio_Azureus @joshg @AAKL @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS

If you're in the US swappa has supported Pixels in the price range you're looking for. The Pixel 8 pro I'm typing this from was 260 if you go back to a 7 you're golden

Just a moment...

(swappa.com)

[contrasocial@mastodon.social]

@Radio_Azureus @joshg @AAKL@infosec.exchange @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS

Fairphone's e/OS works with some phones I believe

Smartphone Selector

(doc.e.foundation)

LineageOS can be used on some devices other than Pixel phones.

[covert_czar@mstdn.social]

@zetabeta @scottytrees @lproven GrapheneOS and lineageOS is still open source.. Isn't it better to improve those than to switch to ios?

[zetabeta@mastodon.social]

@covert_czar @scottytrees @lproven
basically yes.

my opinion:
ios was already lost cause by apple's control. google is creating something similar to apple.

for near term, maybe three years. android without google components is an alternate option.

but i think alphabet inc eventually completes android takeover.