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  • littlealex@infosec.exchangeL littlealex@infosec.exchange

    #jailbreak #hack #f35 #uspol

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    @littlealex if one knows that your billion dollar air defense system **can** be hacked you **need** to do it yourself – if only before your enemy succeeds!

    Imagine Russian air force approaching and your planes are disabled – because Putins hackers were at it before yours were.

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    • littlealex@infosec.exchangeL littlealex@infosec.exchange

      #jailbreak #hack #f35 #uspol

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      @littlealex 👍😁👍 Truth

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      • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

        @frlan @schnedan @littlealex Humans aren't capable of it.

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        @drwho I'd contest that. but maybe not all humans. If you leave regular people alone, without propaganda and lies, they will come together.just fine. That's my experience.

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        • littlealex@infosec.exchangeL littlealex@infosec.exchange

          @toxomat I think more interesting is the part of getting all the little secrets. The airframe itself is pretty boring, likely we can build something better, but reverse ingeneering the software will help Europe and it's partners to save a lot of time developing our own 5th gen fighter or even 6th gen.

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          @littlealex @toxomat

          I dont know that we could do the basics tough? The last European jet fighter development projects were in the 1980s. Eurofighter, Rafale, Grippen.

          Basically, if you worked on the development of those planes as a first job out of school, you're now pushing retirement age.

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          • zamfr@mstdn.socialZ zamfr@mstdn.social

            @littlealex @toxomat

            I dont know that we could do the basics tough? The last European jet fighter development projects were in the 1980s. Eurofighter, Rafale, Grippen.

            Basically, if you worked on the development of those planes as a first job out of school, you're now pushing retirement age.

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            @Zamfr @toxomat Not quite true. Some of the develepment as well as production of the F-35 took place in the EU. Some parts are build in Europe.

            Additionally, airplanes, especially military airplanes, are constantly upgraded and a lot of development goes into this. There is a lot of experience in aircrafts, avionics and other related stuff in the EU.

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            • littlealex@infosec.exchangeL littlealex@infosec.exchange

              @Zamfr @toxomat Not quite true. Some of the develepment as well as production of the F-35 took place in the EU. Some parts are build in Europe.

              Additionally, airplanes, especially military airplanes, are constantly upgraded and a lot of development goes into this. There is a lot of experience in aircrafts, avionics and other related stuff in the EU.

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              @littlealex @toxomat
              Yes, I know. But there is no more experience, neither personal or institutional, in running an entire project. That comes with a great risk that a project spins out of control, unable to meet the exlected capabilities, costs and timelines
              until it gets cancelled.

              Imagine the F35 project with its setbacks, but now run by people who never did that before, and the costs divided among multiple distrusting governments, who also have no experience managing such a project...

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              • zamfr@mstdn.socialZ zamfr@mstdn.social

                @littlealex @toxomat
                Yes, I know. But there is no more experience, neither personal or institutional, in running an entire project. That comes with a great risk that a project spins out of control, unable to meet the exlected capabilities, costs and timelines
                until it gets cancelled.

                Imagine the F35 project with its setbacks, but now run by people who never did that before, and the costs divided among multiple distrusting governments, who also have no experience managing such a project...

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                @Zamfr @toxomat

                I think there are organizastion capable of handling such a project in Europe, like Airbus. The biggest but are the politicians and their interests. I am sure they will be able to slow down or even completely break the most capable actor.

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                • toxomat@social.tchncs.deT toxomat@social.tchncs.de

                  @littlealex
                  This comes across as a pretty idiotic statement as it suggests there is a way to own an F35 in a way you can own an iPhone by jailbreaking it. Just as if these high-bred killing machines would not rely on distributed complex physical logistics and intelligence networks.

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                  @toxomat After a jailbreak they'd obviously need to replace some of the software , or at least data for mapping/targeting/EW. Not easy, so they better have already started preparing. @littlealex

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                  • littlealex@infosec.exchangeL littlealex@infosec.exchange

                    #jailbreak #hack #f35 #uspol

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                    @littlealex

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                      @littlealex

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                      @ryan @littlealex
                      Bravo

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                      • ryan@hachyderm.ioR ryan@hachyderm.io

                        @littlealex

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                        @ryan @littlealex I would. If I had the skillset and access to an F-35. Given the regime in power where the F-35 comes from, it would be idiotic not to. Or they could continue to pretend Trump is their friend until he pulls something and they find their planes bricked. That’s a choice too.

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                        • littlealex@infosec.exchangeL littlealex@infosec.exchange

                          @Zamfr @toxomat

                          I think there are organizastion capable of handling such a project in Europe, like Airbus. The biggest but are the politicians and their interests. I am sure they will be able to slow down or even completely break the most capable actor.

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                          @littlealex @toxomat
                          That's far from obvious! The FCAS project is collapsing, which seems driven by the belief of Dassault and the French government that working with Airbus is only delaying the project. The German government is buying additional F35s (and rumours about joining gcap) suggesting that they are not convinced either.

                          Note that Airbus-the-aircraft-manufacturer is not involved much. They got burned on the a400m and dont want more. Its their missile subsidiary mostly

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                          • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                            @frlan @schnedan @littlealex Humans aren't capable of it.

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                            @drwho @schnedan @littlealex A human that is not able to live in peace shall not own a fighter jet.

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                            • littlealex@infosec.exchangeL littlealex@infosec.exchange

                              #jailbreak #hack #f35 #uspol

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                              @littlealex
                              FJaaS, Fighter Jet as a Service..
                              going on as it started..

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                              • zamfr@mstdn.socialZ zamfr@mstdn.social

                                @littlealex @toxomat
                                That's far from obvious! The FCAS project is collapsing, which seems driven by the belief of Dassault and the French government that working with Airbus is only delaying the project. The German government is buying additional F35s (and rumours about joining gcap) suggesting that they are not convinced either.

                                Note that Airbus-the-aircraft-manufacturer is not involved much. They got burned on the a400m and dont want more. Its their missile subsidiary mostly

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                                @Zamfr It's hard to do arms projects with Germany, not so much because of production delays but because export control is so fierce - you'll have a much harder time recouping your costs by selling to random backwater dictatorships when that needs to go through parliamentary approval.

                                As such, it's in Dassault's interest to get more of the project on their side, both immediately (more project money spent on them rather than German partners) and long-term (all those additional deals), and the French government would like to keep the current investment split while getting a larger piece of the pie, too.

                                Of course that changes the economics for Germany, which agreed to some workload / investment split under the assumption that the German public money going into the project will prop up its own industry to a given degree.

                                I guess the weird thing is that other countries still try to co-develop weapons with Germany 🤷

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                                • littlealex@infosec.exchangeL littlealex@infosec.exchange

                                  #jailbreak #hack #f35 #uspol

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                                  @littlealex That guy should be shot for saying what he did. Cancelled a big advantage that we might have had.

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                                  • littlealex@infosec.exchangeL littlealex@infosec.exchange

                                    #jailbreak #hack #f35 #uspol

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                                    @littlealex Glad to hear it! So annoying they have to be connected up to iTunes any time they are just out the box or need a hardware reset 🤪🤣

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                                    • hakona@im.alstadheim.noH hakona@im.alstadheim.no

                                      @toxomat After a jailbreak they'd obviously need to replace some of the software , or at least data for mapping/targeting/EW. Not easy, so they better have already started preparing. @littlealex

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                                      @toxomat .. or do like the russians, duct-tape a Garmin to the cocpit-window. @littlealex

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                                      • littlealex@infosec.exchangeL littlealex@infosec.exchange

                                        #jailbreak #hack #f35 #uspol

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                                        @littlealex sure. A thing where if you even daydream about making the colour one panel one shade lighter and they'd decertify the lot could be jailbroken as long as you enjoy redoing the lot.

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                                        • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                                          @frlan @schnedan @littlealex Humans aren't capable of it.

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                                          @frlan @schnedan @littlealex @drwho

                                          Maybe, and this is going to sound absolutely nuts, but maybe if we just rounded up all of the elite negative social entities, like psychos, child rapists, and other shitty things, and I mean people who make the world far worse factually and in the eyes of most actual people, we could, especially if we sent them to space, where they could be bombarded with loneliness and radiation, we might be able to live without the jets. Maybe.

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