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OMG this whole “patriots“ #solar generator marketing is pure evil genius, but for the common good.

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  • gatesvp@mstdn.caG gatesvp@mstdn.ca

    @blogdiva I keep coming back to this video from Technology Connections https://youtu.be/KtQ9nt2ZeGM?si=DRU9nV5Ny2VZpPeK

    Solar + Battery is every independent, conservative, prepper 's dream. ☀️➕🔋

    Don't want a government telling you what you can do with your energy? Rationing your access? ☀️➕🔋

    Want to build and own something that lasts for a really long time? Want to invest in your future sovereignty? ☀️➕🔋

    ☀️➕🔋 Is the number one freedom tool of any property owner. Plant it around your crops and use it to power your harvesters. Now the price of diesel won't screw you over. Hook it up to your HVAC system so the animals stay cool when the sun gets hot.

    The failure of conservatives to embrace and promote this money-saving independence tool is kind of mind-blowing. It's like they don't actually want to save money or achieve Independence.

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    @gatesvp @blogdiva It wasn't until COVID hit that I realized the brainwashing and cognitive dissonance of the American conservative/prepper community.

    I expected them to realize their moment had come, retreat into their bunkers, eat expired MREs when not patrolling the area wearing body armor and asbestos-filled Soviet gas masks, and threatening to shoot anyone who got close enough to infect them.

    Like, the apocalypse you've been waiting for is finally here. This is everything you've trained for. And you... pretend it's not real.

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      @licho have no idea

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      • gatesvp@mstdn.caG gatesvp@mstdn.ca

        @blogdiva I keep coming back to this video from Technology Connections https://youtu.be/KtQ9nt2ZeGM?si=DRU9nV5Ny2VZpPeK

        Solar + Battery is every independent, conservative, prepper 's dream. ☀️➕🔋

        Don't want a government telling you what you can do with your energy? Rationing your access? ☀️➕🔋

        Want to build and own something that lasts for a really long time? Want to invest in your future sovereignty? ☀️➕🔋

        ☀️➕🔋 Is the number one freedom tool of any property owner. Plant it around your crops and use it to power your harvesters. Now the price of diesel won't screw you over. Hook it up to your HVAC system so the animals stay cool when the sun gets hot.

        The failure of conservatives to embrace and promote this money-saving independence tool is kind of mind-blowing. It's like they don't actually want to save money or achieve Independence.

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        @gatesvp @blogdiva almost like that conservative independence is a posturing lie, right?

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        • azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA azonenberg@ioc.exchange

          @gatesvp @blogdiva It wasn't until COVID hit that I realized the brainwashing and cognitive dissonance of the American conservative/prepper community.

          I expected them to realize their moment had come, retreat into their bunkers, eat expired MREs when not patrolling the area wearing body armor and asbestos-filled Soviet gas masks, and threatening to shoot anyone who got close enough to infect them.

          Like, the apocalypse you've been waiting for is finally here. This is everything you've trained for. And you... pretend it's not real.

          azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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          @gatesvp @blogdiva And like, the preppers aren't fundamentally wrong. Natural disasters are real. Where I live especially (pacific northwest, so earthquake country split up into literal or virtual islands by bodies of water connected by bridges, ferries, etc) it's common knowledge among savvy people at all levels that when the big one hits, we're going to get cut off.

          The island I used to live on is connected to the outside world by one ferry and one bridge that dates to the 1940s.

          The county I live in now is connected to the rest of the state by... three ferries, one of which is on that island, and I think two or three bridges providing the main ways in and out. Evacuating over a quarter million people through those routes post/mid disaster is never going to be on the menu, and they're likely to all be damaged or obstructed enough that getting help in will be impractical for a while too.

          So you really *will* be on your own to an extent.

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          • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

            @licho have no idea

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            @blogdiva
            That's the one?

            https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_AwVvjhXyoBEElEMSbTQA

            @licho

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            • azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA azonenberg@ioc.exchange

              @gatesvp @blogdiva And like, the preppers aren't fundamentally wrong. Natural disasters are real. Where I live especially (pacific northwest, so earthquake country split up into literal or virtual islands by bodies of water connected by bridges, ferries, etc) it's common knowledge among savvy people at all levels that when the big one hits, we're going to get cut off.

              The island I used to live on is connected to the outside world by one ferry and one bridge that dates to the 1940s.

              The county I live in now is connected to the rest of the state by... three ferries, one of which is on that island, and I think two or three bridges providing the main ways in and out. Evacuating over a quarter million people through those routes post/mid disaster is never going to be on the menu, and they're likely to all be damaged or obstructed enough that getting help in will be impractical for a while too.

              So you really *will* be on your own to an extent.

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              @gatesvp @blogdiva But the part they miss is that 99.9% of the time, going solo isn't the way to do it.

              The most likely scenario is that a town or neighborhood will have most or all paths in and out cut off, and some or all utilities out of service for an extended period of time.

              So what you need to do is address any imminent life threats (put out fires, evacuate unstable structures, rescue people trapped under debris) to the extent possible, then get together with neighbors (ideally not meeting them for the first time) and make a plan to deal with whatever is happening right where you are, because you're all you've got.

              The three fire stations in my city of 13000 are not sending anyone to my tiny street when the big one hits regardless of how bad the damage is or how many injuries there are. There's too many of us and not enough of them.

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              • dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD dzwiedziu@mastodon.social

                @blogdiva
                That's the one?

                https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_AwVvjhXyoBEElEMSbTQA

                @licho

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                it’s that company, but JFC they’re even more bonkers on YT. can't find the ad they're running now but i just skimmed the list.

                damn. they even have prepper meals!

                @dzwiedziu @licho

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                • azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA azonenberg@ioc.exchange

                  @gatesvp @blogdiva But the part they miss is that 99.9% of the time, going solo isn't the way to do it.

                  The most likely scenario is that a town or neighborhood will have most or all paths in and out cut off, and some or all utilities out of service for an extended period of time.

                  So what you need to do is address any imminent life threats (put out fires, evacuate unstable structures, rescue people trapped under debris) to the extent possible, then get together with neighbors (ideally not meeting them for the first time) and make a plan to deal with whatever is happening right where you are, because you're all you've got.

                  The three fire stations in my city of 13000 are not sending anyone to my tiny street when the big one hits regardless of how bad the damage is or how many injuries there are. There's too many of us and not enough of them.

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                  @gatesvp @blogdiva Sure, by all means be prepared to escape and/or resist if a band of violent looters shows up.

                  But you also have to consider the more practical issues - some people might have medications that need refrigeration. Perishable food is going to spoil unless you can provide backup power to refrigerators and freezers. But if you can't preserve that food, you're not going to be able to last nearly as long on shelf stable pantry goods. How much water do you have? Is it drinkable?

                  I'm downhill of a water tower so even if treatment plants and pumps fail, we would probably still have water pressure at least for a while, but if pipes are damaged it might have to be filtered or boiled before it's safe to drink. Who has stockpiles of bottled water, and how much?

                  Who's injured? How bad? Who has first aid or medical training, and supplies? Can people be treated for minor cuts and scrapes and sent home unsupervised? Can someone with a broken limb be splinted and left with a friend until you can get them to proper care, potentially days out? Is there something really critical that demands immediate higher care, and is there anyone nearby capable of providing it? Can you get them there on foot?

                  Sure, tourniquets and quik-clot are nice to have. But can you manage someone with a broken arm for a week until a boat shows up to take them over to the one undamaged hospital in the area?

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                  • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                    it’s that company, but JFC they’re even more bonkers on YT. can't find the ad they're running now but i just skimmed the list.

                    damn. they even have prepper meals!

                    @dzwiedziu @licho

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                    @blogdiva
                    They even have *vegan* options, just without the v-word.

                    Link Preview Image
                    Plant-Based Protein Survival Food Kit | 4Patriots

                    Prepare for any crisis with the Plant-Based Protein Survival Kit. Get 64 delicious, plant-based meals, packed with 776g of protein, designed to last up to 25 years.

                    favicon

                    (4patriots.com)

                    @licho

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                    • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                      OMG this whole “patriots“ #solar generator marketing is pure evil genius, but for the common good.

                      i see these #ads during baseball games and they really go out of their way to hit all the MAGA redneck prepper notes; while selling the one thing the petromafia sugardaddies & their politician stooges dont want their base to embrace: solar energy.

                      it’s #solarpunk machiavellism and it feels weirdly refreshing

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                      @blogdiva If it's the same company I see, they also sell "survival food kits".

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                      • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                        OMG this whole “patriots“ #solar generator marketing is pure evil genius, but for the common good.

                        i see these #ads during baseball games and they really go out of their way to hit all the MAGA redneck prepper notes; while selling the one thing the petromafia sugardaddies & their politician stooges dont want their base to embrace: solar energy.

                        it’s #solarpunk machiavellism and it feels weirdly refreshing

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                        @blogdiva I've seen some made for German patriots, too. German sunlight instead of Arab/Muslim petrol ect. ^^

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                        • dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD dzwiedziu@mastodon.social

                          @blogdiva
                          They even have *vegan* options, just without the v-word.

                          Link Preview Image
                          Plant-Based Protein Survival Food Kit | 4Patriots

                          Prepare for any crisis with the Plant-Based Protein Survival Kit. Get 64 delicious, plant-based meals, packed with 776g of protein, designed to last up to 25 years.

                          favicon

                          (4patriots.com)

                          @licho

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                          @dzwiedziu @licho OMGLOL

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                          • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                            OMG this whole “patriots“ #solar generator marketing is pure evil genius, but for the common good.

                            i see these #ads during baseball games and they really go out of their way to hit all the MAGA redneck prepper notes; while selling the one thing the petromafia sugardaddies & their politician stooges dont want their base to embrace: solar energy.

                            it’s #solarpunk machiavellism and it feels weirdly refreshing

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                            @blogdiva the lengths you have to go to just to convince someone to do something which is in their interests

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                            • verenarupp@social.vivaldi.netV verenarupp@social.vivaldi.net

                              @blogdiva I've seen some made for German patriots, too. German sunlight instead of Arab/Muslim petrol ect. ^^

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                              @VerenaRupp @blogdiva Wow! Got any source? Would like to see this stuff 😁

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                              • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                OMG this whole “patriots“ #solar generator marketing is pure evil genius, but for the common good.

                                i see these #ads during baseball games and they really go out of their way to hit all the MAGA redneck prepper notes; while selling the one thing the petromafia sugardaddies & their politician stooges dont want their base to embrace: solar energy.

                                it’s #solarpunk machiavellism and it feels weirdly refreshing

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                                @blogdiva

                                Fossil fuels make you gay.

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                                • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                  @dzwiedziu @licho OMGLOL

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                                  @blogdiva @dzwiedziu @licho In total this is so fucking clever. I bet their products are just rebranded too.

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                                  • verenarupp@social.vivaldi.netV verenarupp@social.vivaldi.net

                                    @blogdiva I've seen some made for German patriots, too. German sunlight instead of Arab/Muslim petrol ect. ^^

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                                    @VerenaRupp@social.vivaldi.net @blogdiva@mastodon.social ah, yes, Muslim petrol. I only accept petrol that has declared that Islam is the Light.

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                                    • oscillator@chaos.socialO oscillator@chaos.social

                                      @VerenaRupp @blogdiva Wow! Got any source? Would like to see this stuff 😁

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                                      @oscillator @VerenaRupp @blogdiva https://www.volksverpetzer.de/aktuelles/witzigsten-heimatstrom-memes/

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                                      • azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA azonenberg@ioc.exchange

                                        @gatesvp @blogdiva Sure, by all means be prepared to escape and/or resist if a band of violent looters shows up.

                                        But you also have to consider the more practical issues - some people might have medications that need refrigeration. Perishable food is going to spoil unless you can provide backup power to refrigerators and freezers. But if you can't preserve that food, you're not going to be able to last nearly as long on shelf stable pantry goods. How much water do you have? Is it drinkable?

                                        I'm downhill of a water tower so even if treatment plants and pumps fail, we would probably still have water pressure at least for a while, but if pipes are damaged it might have to be filtered or boiled before it's safe to drink. Who has stockpiles of bottled water, and how much?

                                        Who's injured? How bad? Who has first aid or medical training, and supplies? Can people be treated for minor cuts and scrapes and sent home unsupervised? Can someone with a broken limb be splinted and left with a friend until you can get them to proper care, potentially days out? Is there something really critical that demands immediate higher care, and is there anyone nearby capable of providing it? Can you get them there on foot?

                                        Sure, tourniquets and quik-clot are nice to have. But can you manage someone with a broken arm for a week until a boat shows up to take them over to the one undamaged hospital in the area?

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                                        @azonenberg In Sweden, the government recommends a week of food as prepping. Enough to last through initial problems, and even when emergency food distribution is up, it’s unlikely to be at full capacity right away, so any way to relieve the pressure on those is important.

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                                        • ahltorp@mastodon.nuA ahltorp@mastodon.nu

                                          @azonenberg In Sweden, the government recommends a week of food as prepping. Enough to last through initial problems, and even when emergency food distribution is up, it’s unlikely to be at full capacity right away, so any way to relieve the pressure on those is important.

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                                          @ahltorp Yep, the official recommendation is 2 here.

                                          But it doesnt all have to be exotic freeze dried stuff etc, ordinary canned/dry goods you're gonna use anyway are the best.

                                          And if you can manage to keep power on some of the time, even if only to a subset of homes in the neighborhood with generators, you can stretch things a lot further by keeping the fresh foods edible until they're consumed. Not always an option but definitely something to do if you can.

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