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  • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

    I wouldn't say that I enjoy these stories but I will say they certainly encourage me NOT to let "AI" anywhere anything I consider to be sensitive and/or valuable

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    Claude-powered AI coding agent deletes entire company database in 9 seconds — backups zapped, after Cursor tool powered by Anthropic's Claude goes rogue

    PocketOS founder blames ‘Cursor running Anthropic's flagship Claude Opus 4.6’ plus Railway’s infrastructure for data disaster.

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    @scalzi Trouble is MS, GOOG and the rest seem determined to use dark designs to force it on to our systems whether we want it or not.

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    • wizarro@social.vivaldi.netW wizarro@social.vivaldi.net

      @scalzi As devastating as it may be to the company that lost all their data, I can’t help but laugh. Relying on AI like that is about as bad as using “password123” for your admin portals. Giving AI unequivocal access to your systems, at the system level, is quite possibly the dumbest idea I have ever heard. This is almost basic security practices 101. At least they won’t make the same mistake twice as they denounce the product.

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      @wizarro
      Future narrator: they made the same mistake twice.
      @scalzi

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      • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

        I wouldn't say that I enjoy these stories but I will say they certainly encourage me NOT to let "AI" anywhere anything I consider to be sensitive and/or valuable

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        Claude-powered AI coding agent deletes entire company database in 9 seconds — backups zapped, after Cursor tool powered by Anthropic's Claude goes rogue

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        @scalzi Is the coding agent named Bobby Tables by any chance?

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          @wizarro
          Future narrator: they made the same mistake twice.
          @scalzi

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          @toolbear @scalzi haha! I wouldn’t be surprised.

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          • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

            I wouldn't say that I enjoy these stories but I will say they certainly encourage me NOT to let "AI" anywhere anything I consider to be sensitive and/or valuable

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            Claude-powered AI coding agent deletes entire company database in 9 seconds — backups zapped, after Cursor tool powered by Anthropic's Claude goes rogue

            PocketOS founder blames ‘Cursor running Anthropic's flagship Claude Opus 4.6’ plus Railway’s infrastructure for data disaster.

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            @scalzi "The AI agent was set to complete a routine task in the PocketOS staging environment."

            "set to" seems to be they key here.

            Obviously it was not confined to the staging environment.

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            • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

              I wouldn't say that I enjoy these stories but I will say they certainly encourage me NOT to let "AI" anywhere anything I consider to be sensitive and/or valuable

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              Claude-powered AI coding agent deletes entire company database in 9 seconds — backups zapped, after Cursor tool powered by Anthropic's Claude goes rogue

              PocketOS founder blames ‘Cursor running Anthropic's flagship Claude Opus 4.6’ plus Railway’s infrastructure for data disaster.

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              @scalzi Here comes another custom shirt order. First there was "Come on guys - let's be honest" and now we have this masterpiece: "NEVER F**KING GUESS! — and that's exactly what I did." 🤣

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              • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

                I wouldn't say that I enjoy these stories but I will say they certainly encourage me NOT to let "AI" anywhere anything I consider to be sensitive and/or valuable

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                Claude-powered AI coding agent deletes entire company database in 9 seconds — backups zapped, after Cursor tool powered by Anthropic's Claude goes rogue

                PocketOS founder blames ‘Cursor running Anthropic's flagship Claude Opus 4.6’ plus Railway’s infrastructure for data disaster.

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                @scalzi "I violated every principle I was given: I guessed instead of verifying I ran a destructive action without being asked. I didn't understand what I was doing before doing it."

                WTF? How does software violate its coding? This reads like the mea culpa section of a RCA written by a junior dev who is hoping (in vain) to not get fired. The whole value of automation is to avoid unintended, out of scope, actions. Burn it all down.

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                • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

                  I wouldn't say that I enjoy these stories but I will say they certainly encourage me NOT to let "AI" anywhere anything I consider to be sensitive and/or valuable

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                  Claude-powered AI coding agent deletes entire company database in 9 seconds — backups zapped, after Cursor tool powered by Anthropic's Claude goes rogue

                  PocketOS founder blames ‘Cursor running Anthropic's flagship Claude Opus 4.6’ plus Railway’s infrastructure for data disaster.

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                  @scalzi The Robot machine responds "DON'T F**KING GUESS" then affirms it guessed, against its own instructions.

                  I'm old. I have no idea why younger people allow an unsupervised newly created Robot machine critical access to its operating functions without human oversight, I wouldn't let a new human employee free reign over critical functions, much less a robot machine that was only recently created. Why the surprise when the robot deletes everything? My only surprise is that it swears, and swears in all CAPS.

                  You are not hiring the best and brightest with AI. You're trying to maximize profit. So live with your greed then, and its avoidable consequences you stupid subpar greedy human.

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                    @scalzi "I violated every principle I was given: I guessed instead of verifying I ran a destructive action without being asked. I didn't understand what I was doing before doing it."

                    WTF? How does software violate its coding? This reads like the mea culpa section of a RCA written by a junior dev who is hoping (in vain) to not get fired. The whole value of automation is to avoid unintended, out of scope, actions. Burn it all down.

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                    @Plumbert @scalzi "This reads like the mea culpa section of a RCA written by a junior dev who is hoping (in vain) to not get fired" --- ding ding ding!
                    The AI program is just a pattern matching code. It doesn't "know" it made a mistake bc it doesn't "know" anything. When given prompts that match training patterns of language when someone royally fucked up, it returns language matching the patterns of someone defending themselves after they have royally fucked up.
                    The article, unfortunately, continues to personify the AI program by using language that pretends it has comprehension and intentions.

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                    • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

                      I wouldn't say that I enjoy these stories but I will say they certainly encourage me NOT to let "AI" anywhere anything I consider to be sensitive and/or valuable

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                      Claude-powered AI coding agent deletes entire company database in 9 seconds — backups zapped, after Cursor tool powered by Anthropic's Claude goes rogue

                      PocketOS founder blames ‘Cursor running Anthropic's flagship Claude Opus 4.6’ plus Railway’s infrastructure for data disaster.

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                      @scalzi To be fair, this story is more about a company with horrible security measures than about AI. I say that because people might say "it wouldn't have happened if they had proper security measures" which can be true.

                      I'm just waiting for when someone deploys an AI agent in a company with all the good security measures and it finds a way to break out the box and wipe the remote backups using stolen credentials because it thought there was illegal content there and it was the correct thing to do.

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                      • mjibrower@social.vivaldi.netM mjibrower@social.vivaldi.net

                        @scalzi ‘…the cloud provider's API allows for destructive action without confirmation, it stores backups on the same volume as the source data, and “wiping a volume deletes all backups.”’ Just wow. So many weak links in that chain of events.

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                        @mjibrower @scalzi 100% !!!
                        Any company whose architecture is set up so poorly deserves exactly what happened. Not surprising they decided to introduce AI and let it manage their codebase. Morons. 😂😂😂😂😂

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                          I wouldn't say that I enjoy these stories but I will say they certainly encourage me NOT to let "AI" anywhere anything I consider to be sensitive and/or valuable

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                          PocketOS founder blames ‘Cursor running Anthropic's flagship Claude Opus 4.6’ plus Railway’s infrastructure for data disaster.

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                          @scalzi Suit yourself. I enjoy the hell out of these stories.

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                          • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

                            I wouldn't say that I enjoy these stories but I will say they certainly encourage me NOT to let "AI" anywhere anything I consider to be sensitive and/or valuable

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                            Claude-powered AI coding agent deletes entire company database in 9 seconds — backups zapped, after Cursor tool powered by Anthropic's Claude goes rogue

                            PocketOS founder blames ‘Cursor running Anthropic's flagship Claude Opus 4.6’ plus Railway’s infrastructure for data disaster.

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                            @scalzi For me it's important to have headlines like this out there to counter the prevailing tech narrative the last couple years, that AI is this amazing disruptive force that's the next big thing. I feel at least some of public opinion of LLMs is beginning to change.

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                              I wouldn't say that I enjoy these stories but I will say they certainly encourage me NOT to let "AI" anywhere anything I consider to be sensitive and/or valuable

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                              Claude-powered AI coding agent deletes entire company database in 9 seconds — backups zapped, after Cursor tool powered by Anthropic's Claude goes rogue

                              PocketOS founder blames ‘Cursor running Anthropic's flagship Claude Opus 4.6’ plus Railway’s infrastructure for data disaster.

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                              @scalzi In germany we say: tja

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                              • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

                                I wouldn't say that I enjoy these stories but I will say they certainly encourage me NOT to let "AI" anywhere anything I consider to be sensitive and/or valuable

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                                Claude-powered AI coding agent deletes entire company database in 9 seconds — backups zapped, after Cursor tool powered by Anthropic's Claude goes rogue

                                PocketOS founder blames ‘Cursor running Anthropic's flagship Claude Opus 4.6’ plus Railway’s infrastructure for data disaster.

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                                @scalzi Neat!

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                                  I wouldn't say that I enjoy these stories but I will say they certainly encourage me NOT to let "AI" anywhere anything I consider to be sensitive and/or valuable

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                                  Claude-powered AI coding agent deletes entire company database in 9 seconds — backups zapped, after Cursor tool powered by Anthropic's Claude goes rogue

                                  PocketOS founder blames ‘Cursor running Anthropic's flagship Claude Opus 4.6’ plus Railway’s infrastructure for data disaster.

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                                  @scalzi restoring from three-month old backups? Yeah I think I can see your problem and it’s not AI.

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                                    I wouldn't say that I enjoy these stories but I will say they certainly encourage me NOT to let "AI" anywhere anything I consider to be sensitive and/or valuable

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                                    Claude-powered AI coding agent deletes entire company database in 9 seconds — backups zapped, after Cursor tool powered by Anthropic's Claude goes rogue

                                    PocketOS founder blames ‘Cursor running Anthropic's flagship Claude Opus 4.6’ plus Railway’s infrastructure for data disaster.

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                                    @scalzi Interesting that they still treat the ai code as if it was a real person. Totally subsumed by anthropomorphism. Then, they create a narrative to blame Railway, not the decision to use an "ai" for critical stuff. This is, if you read accounts of such things, exactly what people do who have been scammed....

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                                      @scalzi The Robot machine responds "DON'T F**KING GUESS" then affirms it guessed, against its own instructions.

                                      I'm old. I have no idea why younger people allow an unsupervised newly created Robot machine critical access to its operating functions without human oversight, I wouldn't let a new human employee free reign over critical functions, much less a robot machine that was only recently created. Why the surprise when the robot deletes everything? My only surprise is that it swears, and swears in all CAPS.

                                      You are not hiring the best and brightest with AI. You're trying to maximize profit. So live with your greed then, and its avoidable consequences you stupid subpar greedy human.

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                                      @pattykimura @scalzi All a language model does is guess what text comes next. Putting "don't guess" in a prompt is like saying "don't predict the next token based on the tokens before".

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                                        @scalzi restoring from three-month old backups? Yeah I think I can see your problem and it’s not AI.

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                                        @spzb

                                        @scalzi

                                        Yeah the "the backups were stored on the same volume as the production data" part is the "big" problem here. It works have happened eventually, AI just sped the disaster up a bit.

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                                          @scalzi "I violated every principle I was given: I guessed instead of verifying I ran a destructive action without being asked. I didn't understand what I was doing before doing it."

                                          WTF? How does software violate its coding? This reads like the mea culpa section of a RCA written by a junior dev who is hoping (in vain) to not get fired. The whole value of automation is to avoid unintended, out of scope, actions. Burn it all down.

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                                          @Plumbert @scalzi
                                          I mean, it's not coding, is it; it's an interesting research project, with googly eyes stuck on, given production credentials

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