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  3. So my systems recently updated to rsync 3.4.3, and as soon as that happened my backup system - which does incremental backups using multiple --compare-dest= arguments - started to fail on anything but a full backup.

So my systems recently updated to rsync 3.4.3, and as soon as that happened my backup system - which does incremental backups using multiple --compare-dest= arguments - started to fail on anything but a full backup.

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  • jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.place

    So my systems recently updated to rsync 3.4.3, and as soon as that happened my backup system - which does incremental backups using multiple --compare-dest= arguments - started to fail on anything but a full backup.

    Revert to 3.4.1 and it works.

    So I go look at the source in GitHub to see what might have changed, because there doesn't seem to be anything relevant in the changelog.

    Since 3.4.1, 36 commits by "tridge and claude"

    Oh for fuck's sakes.

    leah@blahaj.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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    @JeremiahFieldhaven this? https://github.com/RsyncProject/rsync/issues/915

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    • jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.place

      So my systems recently updated to rsync 3.4.3, and as soon as that happened my backup system - which does incremental backups using multiple --compare-dest= arguments - started to fail on anything but a full backup.

      Revert to 3.4.1 and it works.

      So I go look at the source in GitHub to see what might have changed, because there doesn't seem to be anything relevant in the changelog.

      Since 3.4.1, 36 commits by "tridge and claude"

      Oh for fuck's sakes.

      mav@masto.hackers.townM This user is from outside of this forum
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      mav@masto.hackers.town
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      #3

      @JeremiahFieldhaven
      Oh damn it all. Tridge has fallen

      doomed_daniel@mastodon.gamedev.placeD brett_e_carlock@mastodon.onlineB 2 Replies Last reply
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      • jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.place

        So my systems recently updated to rsync 3.4.3, and as soon as that happened my backup system - which does incremental backups using multiple --compare-dest= arguments - started to fail on anything but a full backup.

        Revert to 3.4.1 and it works.

        So I go look at the source in GitHub to see what might have changed, because there doesn't seem to be anything relevant in the changelog.

        Since 3.4.1, 36 commits by "tridge and claude"

        Oh for fuck's sakes.

        sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.placeS This user is from outside of this forum
        sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.placeS This user is from outside of this forum
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        @JeremiahFieldhaven Christ if it’s coming for rsync of all things software is clearly done

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        • sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.placeS sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place

          @JeremiahFieldhaven Christ if it’s coming for rsync of all things software is clearly done

          distractal@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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          @sinbad @JeremiahFieldhaven What an idiotic thing to do to a piece of software with a venerable past and whose key feature is its reliability. All these OSS maintainers just burning decades of trust over a perceived 10-ish % “efficiency gain” with snowballing amounts of evidence to the contrary, and a looming bubble implosion on the horizon.

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          • jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.place

            So my systems recently updated to rsync 3.4.3, and as soon as that happened my backup system - which does incremental backups using multiple --compare-dest= arguments - started to fail on anything but a full backup.

            Revert to 3.4.1 and it works.

            So I go look at the source in GitHub to see what might have changed, because there doesn't seem to be anything relevant in the changelog.

            Since 3.4.1, 36 commits by "tridge and claude"

            Oh for fuck's sakes.

            spitfire@mastodon.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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            @JeremiahFieldhaven aw, goddamnit! 😠

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            • jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.place

              So my systems recently updated to rsync 3.4.3, and as soon as that happened my backup system - which does incremental backups using multiple --compare-dest= arguments - started to fail on anything but a full backup.

              Revert to 3.4.1 and it works.

              So I go look at the source in GitHub to see what might have changed, because there doesn't seem to be anything relevant in the changelog.

              Since 3.4.1, 36 commits by "tridge and claude"

              Oh for fuck's sakes.

              me@social.taupehat.comM This user is from outside of this forum
              me@social.taupehat.comM This user is from outside of this forum
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              @JeremiahFieldhaven Tridge is using AI? LOL, that's damn funny to be honest. Also I thought he only worked on core Samba code. Maybe he should only work on core Samba code.

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              • jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.place

                So my systems recently updated to rsync 3.4.3, and as soon as that happened my backup system - which does incremental backups using multiple --compare-dest= arguments - started to fail on anything but a full backup.

                Revert to 3.4.1 and it works.

                So I go look at the source in GitHub to see what might have changed, because there doesn't seem to be anything relevant in the changelog.

                Since 3.4.1, 36 commits by "tridge and claude"

                Oh for fuck's sakes.

                nefariousaryq@hoosier.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                @JeremiahFieldhaven Well this has unlocked a new horror. 😱

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                • jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  So my systems recently updated to rsync 3.4.3, and as soon as that happened my backup system - which does incremental backups using multiple --compare-dest= arguments - started to fail on anything but a full backup.

                  Revert to 3.4.1 and it works.

                  So I go look at the source in GitHub to see what might have changed, because there doesn't seem to be anything relevant in the changelog.

                  Since 3.4.1, 36 commits by "tridge and claude"

                  Oh for fuck's sakes.

                  zbender@hachyderm.ioZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @JeremiahFieldhaven Whoooaah whoa whoa. Actual Tridge would never really actually break something (in that way).

                  A tridgeposter…?

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                  • jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    So my systems recently updated to rsync 3.4.3, and as soon as that happened my backup system - which does incremental backups using multiple --compare-dest= arguments - started to fail on anything but a full backup.

                    Revert to 3.4.1 and it works.

                    So I go look at the source in GitHub to see what might have changed, because there doesn't seem to be anything relevant in the changelog.

                    Since 3.4.1, 36 commits by "tridge and claude"

                    Oh for fuck's sakes.

                    dorian@retro.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @JeremiahFieldhaven no! Not rsync! How many of my beloved cli programs must fall to ai slop development?!?!

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                    • jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      So my systems recently updated to rsync 3.4.3, and as soon as that happened my backup system - which does incremental backups using multiple --compare-dest= arguments - started to fail on anything but a full backup.

                      Revert to 3.4.1 and it works.

                      So I go look at the source in GitHub to see what might have changed, because there doesn't seem to be anything relevant in the changelog.

                      Since 3.4.1, 36 commits by "tridge and claude"

                      Oh for fuck's sakes.

                      mutesplash@uncontrollablegas.comM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @JeremiahFieldhaven These posts are like war correspondence: They got tridge

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                      • jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        So my systems recently updated to rsync 3.4.3, and as soon as that happened my backup system - which does incremental backups using multiple --compare-dest= arguments - started to fail on anything but a full backup.

                        Revert to 3.4.1 and it works.

                        So I go look at the source in GitHub to see what might have changed, because there doesn't seem to be anything relevant in the changelog.

                        Since 3.4.1, 36 commits by "tridge and claude"

                        Oh for fuck's sakes.

                        julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @JeremiahFieldhaven I hope the overtime auditing & controlling for breakage across countless machines is worth the purported drudgery-slaying efficiency gains of that vibed PR.

                        I fear this is just the beginning.

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                        • mav@masto.hackers.townM mav@masto.hackers.town

                          @JeremiahFieldhaven
                          Oh damn it all. Tridge has fallen

                          doomed_daniel@mastodon.gamedev.placeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @mav @JeremiahFieldhaven
                          🎶
                          Andrew Tridge has fallen down,
                          fallen down, fallen down, ... 🎶

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                          • jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            So my systems recently updated to rsync 3.4.3, and as soon as that happened my backup system - which does incremental backups using multiple --compare-dest= arguments - started to fail on anything but a full backup.

                            Revert to 3.4.1 and it works.

                            So I go look at the source in GitHub to see what might have changed, because there doesn't seem to be anything relevant in the changelog.

                            Since 3.4.1, 36 commits by "tridge and claude"

                            Oh for fuck's sakes.

                            cap_ybarra@beige.partyC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @JeremiahFieldhaven fork everything, it's all slop now and needs new caretakers

                            mavu@mastodon.socialM tk@f.kawa-kun.comT 2 Replies Last reply
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                            • jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              So my systems recently updated to rsync 3.4.3, and as soon as that happened my backup system - which does incremental backups using multiple --compare-dest= arguments - started to fail on anything but a full backup.

                              Revert to 3.4.1 and it works.

                              So I go look at the source in GitHub to see what might have changed, because there doesn't seem to be anything relevant in the changelog.

                              Since 3.4.1, 36 commits by "tridge and claude"

                              Oh for fuck's sakes.

                              gryphonmyers@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @JeremiahFieldhaven https://aidirtylist.info/citations/andrew-tridge-pushes-flurry-of-code-slop-to-rsync-respository/ thanks for catching that. I've cited your post here

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                              • jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                So my systems recently updated to rsync 3.4.3, and as soon as that happened my backup system - which does incremental backups using multiple --compare-dest= arguments - started to fail on anything but a full backup.

                                Revert to 3.4.1 and it works.

                                So I go look at the source in GitHub to see what might have changed, because there doesn't seem to be anything relevant in the changelog.

                                Since 3.4.1, 36 commits by "tridge and claude"

                                Oh for fuck's sakes.

                                chuckmcmanis@chaos.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @JeremiahFieldhaven I strongly recommend (if you haven't already) point this out to the rsync maintainers. "Tridge" should have their commit privileges suspended until they can review AI slop.

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                                • jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  So my systems recently updated to rsync 3.4.3, and as soon as that happened my backup system - which does incremental backups using multiple --compare-dest= arguments - started to fail on anything but a full backup.

                                  Revert to 3.4.1 and it works.

                                  So I go look at the source in GitHub to see what might have changed, because there doesn't seem to be anything relevant in the changelog.

                                  Since 3.4.1, 36 commits by "tridge and claude"

                                  Oh for fuck's sakes.

                                  mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @JeremiahFieldhaven figures

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                                  • cap_ybarra@beige.partyC cap_ybarra@beige.party

                                    @JeremiahFieldhaven fork everything, it's all slop now and needs new caretakers

                                    mavu@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @cap_ybarra @JeremiahFieldhaven on rsync, this is scary. It's getting to a point where just stopping updates for a while on crucial systems seems safer than applying them.

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                                    • mavu@mastodon.socialM mavu@mastodon.social

                                      @cap_ybarra @JeremiahFieldhaven on rsync, this is scary. It's getting to a point where just stopping updates for a while on crucial systems seems safer than applying them.

                                      rf@mas.toR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @mavu @cap_ybarra @JeremiahFieldhaven 3.4.3 looks like mostly security changes (couple bugs say security fixes broke their thing, so it might be the case for your problem). If you only ever rsync with trusted machines, you're all good, but more broadly sitting out future security fixes is less appealing than sitting out future features

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                                      • gryphonmyers@mastodon.socialG gryphonmyers@mastodon.social

                                        @JeremiahFieldhaven https://aidirtylist.info/citations/andrew-tridge-pushes-flurry-of-code-slop-to-rsync-respository/ thanks for catching that. I've cited your post here

                                        azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @gryphonmyers @JeremiahFieldhaven checking the GitHub repo i see a lot of recent regressions... Lovely

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                                        • jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          So my systems recently updated to rsync 3.4.3, and as soon as that happened my backup system - which does incremental backups using multiple --compare-dest= arguments - started to fail on anything but a full backup.

                                          Revert to 3.4.1 and it works.

                                          So I go look at the source in GitHub to see what might have changed, because there doesn't seem to be anything relevant in the changelog.

                                          Since 3.4.1, 36 commits by "tridge and claude"

                                          Oh for fuck's sakes.

                                          chris@social.losno.coC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @JeremiahFieldhaven Do people not even read or test the output of these agents when using them? I've used them as a crutch, but never as a replacement, so I can at least understand what the output is before I push it to someone to review. It's more of a finding the spoons and the hours of typing away to finish something I want done so I can use it. I wish the same could be said of all these people inflicting unvetted changes on untold thousands or even millions of users.

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