If the game is only fun when you win, it’s not a good game.

[samir@mastodon.functional.computer]

If the game is only fun when you win, it’s not a good game.

If the economy is only beneficial when you’re rich, it’s not a good economy.

[rosactrl@social.vivaldi.net]

@samir counterpoint, off topic: if the game is only fun when you win, maybe you aren’t a nice person.

Personal rant: my ex was so competitive that at some point I had to tell him to stop otherwise I wouldn’t play with him again because he and his pal were making the whole thing bad for the rest of us

[samir@mastodon.functional.computer]

@RosaCtrl Yeah, those people should play with each other and no one else.

I rarely play competitive games, because I don’t actually enjoy winning against my fellow players. I realise I am probably quite far on the other end of the spectrum though.

[rosactrl@social.vivaldi.net]

@samir I think wining is rewarding when it happens, but you don’t need it to have fun!

[datarama@hachyderm.io]

@samir @RosaCtrl That's where I am too. Me and two of my university friends have had a weekly (online) gaming session together every Friday since 2020, and we've pretty much only played cooperatively because we have more fun that way.

[andrev@types.pl]

@samir @RosaCtrl depending on how serious I am with a game "winning" is actually a problem because it's harder to find the flaws analysing a game that is won, rather than finding the problem in a game that is lost.

[samir@mastodon.functional.computer]

@RosaCtrl Agreed, and I do like winning, but typically the feeling of causing my friends distress overshadows it.

There’s a few people I can play competitive games with, and I have known them all for over 20 years.

[samir@mastodon.functional.computer]

@datarama @RosaCtrl Yes, same. I have a weekly online gaming group that’s been going since mid-2020 and we mostly play co-op video games or D&D.

[samir@mastodon.functional.computer]

@Andrev @RosaCtrl That’s fascinating. So your goal is to improve, and you can’t do that as easily if you win. Am I getting it?

[datarama@hachyderm.io]

@samir @RosaCtrl We only play video games (all co-op), though perhaps we branch into TTRPGs (for some definition of TT) later. Occasionally we've watched a movie together instead, though.

[samir@mastodon.functional.computer]

@datarama @RosaCtrl Also sounds great.

We just finished the video game adaptation of Gloomhaven. It took us a few years, with breaks to play other stuff. Probably about 70 2-hour sessions? Anyway, I recommend it, if it’s your thing.

[datarama@hachyderm.io]

@samir @RosaCtrl We're currently stumbling our way through Valheim. One is actually a genuinely good player; us two others are basically Viking Laurel & Hardy.

We've also played *lots* of Stellaris, Don't Starve Together, and one very long Stardew Valley game with a *ton* of community mods. (and many other shorter games)

[samir@mastodon.functional.computer]

@datarama @RosaCtrl Gonna add these all to the list.

We’re playing Grounded now. I am not really into games with crafting, so I find that annoying, but otherwise I think it’s pretty good.

[andrev@types.pl]

@samir @RosaCtrl yes!

[samir@mastodon.functional.computer]

@Andrev @RosaCtrl I really like that. I think sports clubs have that kind of thing figured out, with rankings and matchmaking. It’s much harder to do when you’re playing FPSes with your friends.

[samir@mastodon.functional.computer]

Monopoly, of course, fits both categories.