The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it.
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The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it. It's everyones I need to work with. They aren't going to join my self-hosted service just to exchange work files or chat, etc. I've tried.
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The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it. It's everyones I need to work with. They aren't going to join my self-hosted service just to exchange work files or chat, etc. I've tried.
@grumpygamer yes, but all my friends are pretty set on finding an alternative for discord now, after yesterday. i don’t think they’re the only ones
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The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it. It's everyones I need to work with. They aren't going to join my self-hosted service just to exchange work files or chat, etc. I've tried.
@grumpygamer That's been the truth of a lot of this for me as well.
Self hosted solutions require a lot of explanation to people.
Trying to explain Matrix to a layman is like me being inside a cockpit with a phone telling me how to land the damn plane.
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The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it. It's everyones I need to work with. They aren't going to join my self-hosted service just to exchange work files or chat, etc. I've tried.
Yeah, that sucks. I got away from most big tech stuff and other services/apps i consider immoral and/or unethical, but i can't leave, for example, WhatsApp, since doing that would cut me off from communicating with most of my country.
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The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it. It's everyones I need to work with. They aren't going to join my self-hosted service just to exchange work files or chat, etc. I've tried.
@grumpygamer I've had luck getting people to collaborate via shared links over cryptpad.fr, but somehow I can't get them to make accounts there…
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The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it. It's everyones I need to work with. They aren't going to join my self-hosted service just to exchange work files or chat, etc. I've tried.
@grumpygamer "network effects" are a killer! kinda means an alternative needs to be overwhelmingly better all at once to make a dent, which rarely happens.
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The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it. It's everyones I need to work with. They aren't going to join my self-hosted service just to exchange work files or chat, etc. I've tried.
@grumpygamer I've been thinking for a while that I should host a Jabber server as soon as I can find anyone who wants to chat on Jabber.
(It hasn't come up so far. Shockingly.)
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@grumpygamer "network effects" are a killer! kinda means an alternative needs to be overwhelmingly better all at once to make a dent, which rarely happens.
@grumpygamer @jplebreton well the unsurmountable inevitability of network effects is the lie big social companies are telling you today.
In reality all that's keeping them from beeing disrupted is a big moat full of aggressive IP laws/lawyers around their business model (e.g. controlling access to "their" users)
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The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it. It's everyones I need to work with. They aren't going to join my self-hosted service just to exchange work files or chat, etc. I've tried.
Going to have to start working on my roleplaying group to ditch Discord as our online meetup venue...
And I'm dreading it cos it took me way too long to get them to stop using FB Messenger for arrangements and between-sessions discussions.

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