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  • pawpower@beige.partyP pawpower@beige.party

    @NicksWorld @ratking @SapphireRose91 You can pick up an iPad and use it because you are proficient using an iPhone and many of the gestures and commands are similar. Anything you do for the first time that is entirely new is going to take some effort and commitment to learn it.

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    nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me
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    @pawpower @ratking @SapphireRose91 but why use Mac? It offers nothing I already don't have with windows. I can pick up a new windows computer today and still use it just as I am right now. I don't have to spend hours and hours on a course to learn to use the thing because it doesn't require a whole manual to learn it, also, I've used my brother's computer and it just makes no sense to me.

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    • N nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me

      @pawpower @ratking @SapphireRose91 but why use Mac? It offers nothing I already don't have with windows. I can pick up a new windows computer today and still use it just as I am right now. I don't have to spend hours and hours on a course to learn to use the thing because it doesn't require a whole manual to learn it, also, I've used my brother's computer and it just makes no sense to me.

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      @NicksWorld @ratking @SapphireRose91 Personally, and this is for me only, I use a Mac because it is the operating system on a computer that works most consistently with braille every single time. It doesn't matter which display it is it doesn't matter what kind of connection, Bluetooth or USB I can get braille every single time and for me that is the most important thing. I can work around everything else, but if I don't have braille, I don't have access and I know windows has NVDA and jaws and every time I try and use a display with one of these at some point I have to have a hearing person or someone who can see help me fix the configuration settings to fix it and it's annoying. So I will always use a Mac until Windows is as good with braille support as the Mac is.

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      • pawpower@beige.partyP pawpower@beige.party

        @NicksWorld @ratking @SapphireRose91 Personally, and this is for me only, I use a Mac because it is the operating system on a computer that works most consistently with braille every single time. It doesn't matter which display it is it doesn't matter what kind of connection, Bluetooth or USB I can get braille every single time and for me that is the most important thing. I can work around everything else, but if I don't have braille, I don't have access and I know windows has NVDA and jaws and every time I try and use a display with one of these at some point I have to have a hearing person or someone who can see help me fix the configuration settings to fix it and it's annoying. So I will always use a Mac until Windows is as good with braille support as the Mac is.

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        sapphirerose91@tweesecake.social
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        @pawpower @NicksWorld @ratking Yes, and Mac comes accessible out of the box. Narrator isn't as good as Voice over. Never mind the fact that there have been many improvements to both. Windows just can't catch up.

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        • N nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me

          @SapphireRose91 I'm just stating facts.

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          @NicksWorld @SapphireRose91 I personally find using the mac to be a little confusing. I don't know how it all works yet, but if there are resources out there to learn how to use the Mac, then I'm more than willing to learn. I do like my Mac, it’s just a little clunky in my opinion to use compared to my windows machine. But I've been using windows for a little over 15 years.

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            @NicksWorld Umm. OK. My respectful suggestion is that you buy a recent mac on a return policy, try it yourself, and watch a sighted person use it, even if the sighted person knows nothing about the Mac. The interface for the sighted user will have very few issues, in fact, having had experience with quite a few sighted people, I wouldn't be surprised if the sighted person liked it instantly. The interface, in my experience, is fine. It's VO's issues that make the Mac a serious pain for blind users. Interaction, just for example, is almost exclusive to VO on OSX.

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            mcourcel@allovertheplace.ca
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            @techsinger @NicksWorld Nick and his blanket statements. Voiceover on Mac sucks dude! Mac OS itself is a solid OS. Voiceover on Mac is an abismal failure, because they haven't fixed anything in years.

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            • leonianuniverse@caneandable.socialL leonianuniverse@caneandable.social

              @NicksWorld @SapphireRose91 I personally find using the mac to be a little confusing. I don't know how it all works yet, but if there are resources out there to learn how to use the Mac, then I'm more than willing to learn. I do like my Mac, it’s just a little clunky in my opinion to use compared to my windows machine. But I've been using windows for a little over 15 years.

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              sapphirerose91@tweesecake.social
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              @LeonianUniverse @NicksWorld So, this is all your fault! LOL

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              • N nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me

                @pawpower @ratking @SapphireRose91 but why use Mac? It offers nothing I already don't have with windows. I can pick up a new windows computer today and still use it just as I am right now. I don't have to spend hours and hours on a course to learn to use the thing because it doesn't require a whole manual to learn it, also, I've used my brother's computer and it just makes no sense to me.

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                ratking@mastodon.stickbear.me
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                @NicksWorld @pawpower @SapphireRose91 for you, great. Not everyone is you man, and stop actign like they need to be. IN that mindset, you need to use andoroid as IOs is lame, my words twisted to your view

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                • R ratking@mastodon.stickbear.me

                  @NicksWorld @pawpower @SapphireRose91 for you, great. Not everyone is you man, and stop actign like they need to be. IN that mindset, you need to use andoroid as IOs is lame, my words twisted to your view

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                  sapphirerose91@tweesecake.social
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                  @ratking @NicksWorld @pawpower Agreed.

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                  • leonianuniverse@caneandable.socialL leonianuniverse@caneandable.social

                    @NicksWorld @SapphireRose91 I personally find using the mac to be a little confusing. I don't know how it all works yet, but if there are resources out there to learn how to use the Mac, then I'm more than willing to learn. I do like my Mac, it’s just a little clunky in my opinion to use compared to my windows machine. But I've been using windows for a little over 15 years.

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                    @NicksWorld @SapphireRose91 If anything, IPad OS is harder, but that might just be because my magic keyboard keeps acting up pretty significantly .

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                    • M mcourcel@allovertheplace.ca

                      @techsinger @NicksWorld Nick and his blanket statements. Voiceover on Mac sucks dude! Mac OS itself is a solid OS. Voiceover on Mac is an abismal failure, because they haven't fixed anything in years.

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                      @mcourcel @NicksWorld Abysmal failure is a kind and humane way to put it 🙂

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                      • leonianuniverse@caneandable.socialL leonianuniverse@caneandable.social

                        @NicksWorld @SapphireRose91 If anything, IPad OS is harder, but that might just be because my magic keyboard keeps acting up pretty significantly .

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                        sapphirerose91@tweesecake.social
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                        @LeonianUniverse @NicksWorld Punch it? Those things seem to be a thorn in a lot of people's sides.

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                        • S sapphirerose91@tweesecake.social

                          @LeonianUniverse @NicksWorld So, this is all your fault! LOL

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                          @SapphireRose91 @NicksWorld Lol, yes, I guess, it did actually take me like 3 hours to set up Rimworld on the Mac, but not because I couldn't navigate, but because I was a dumbass and didn't install all of the dependancies.

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                          • S sapphirerose91@tweesecake.social

                            @pawpower @NicksWorld @ratking Yes, and Mac comes accessible out of the box. Narrator isn't as good as Voice over. Never mind the fact that there have been many improvements to both. Windows just can't catch up.

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                            @SapphireRose91 @NicksWorld @ratking Also, everyone is different and everyone's priorities are different and why does anyone even care what someone else uses. If you don't like the Mac, don't use the Mac! I don't actually care if people use windows that's awesome. I'm glad it works for them. I personally want to throw a windows computer out the window 15 minutes after starting to work with it, but I understand that I'm in the minority, but I don't let this shit live rent free in my head because it doesn't matter. Everyone has to do what works for themselves. Turning this into some kind of ridiculous argument is just that… Ridiculous. Use what works. Let your neighbor do what works for them. It might be different from you.

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                            • leonianuniverse@caneandable.socialL leonianuniverse@caneandable.social

                              @SapphireRose91 @NicksWorld Lol, yes, I guess, it did actually take me like 3 hours to set up Rimworld on the Mac, but not because I couldn't navigate, but because I was a dumbass and didn't install all of the dependancies.

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                              mcourcel@allovertheplace.ca
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                              @LeonianUniverse @SapphireRose91 @NicksWorld Breaking news: I like eggs!

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                              • S sapphirerose91@tweesecake.social

                                @LeonianUniverse @NicksWorld Punch it? Those things seem to be a thorn in a lot of people's sides.

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                                @SapphireRose91 @NicksWorld I paid 300 bucks for that, certainly not gonna punch it.

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                                • T techsinger@tweesecake.social

                                  @mcourcel @NicksWorld Abysmal failure is a kind and humane way to put it 🙂

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                                  @techsinger @NicksWorld Lolol. I am a polite gentalman.

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                                  • pawpower@beige.partyP pawpower@beige.party

                                    @NicksWorld @ratking @SapphireRose91 Personally, and this is for me only, I use a Mac because it is the operating system on a computer that works most consistently with braille every single time. It doesn't matter which display it is it doesn't matter what kind of connection, Bluetooth or USB I can get braille every single time and for me that is the most important thing. I can work around everything else, but if I don't have braille, I don't have access and I know windows has NVDA and jaws and every time I try and use a display with one of these at some point I have to have a hearing person or someone who can see help me fix the configuration settings to fix it and it's annoying. So I will always use a Mac until Windows is as good with braille support as the Mac is.

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                                    nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me
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                                    @pawpower @ratking @SapphireRose91 Okay, you have a point there. IOS and Mac have far superior braille support to windows. I use a braille display with my phone sometimes and its easy to set up, no other software required.

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                                    • M mcourcel@allovertheplace.ca

                                      @LeonianUniverse @SapphireRose91 @NicksWorld Breaking news: I like eggs!

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                                      @mcourcel @SapphireRose91 @NicksWorld Allow me to contact the local news for such a riveting fact about yourself.

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                                        @NicksWorld @pawpower @SapphireRose91 @ratking Wait what? Yes you did. Silly goose!

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                                        • leonianuniverse@caneandable.socialL leonianuniverse@caneandable.social

                                          @SapphireRose91 @NicksWorld Lol, yes, I guess, it did actually take me like 3 hours to set up Rimworld on the Mac, but not because I couldn't navigate, but because I was a dumbass and didn't install all of the dependancies.

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                                          nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me
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                                          @LeonianUniverse @SapphireRose91 See, I would not have known to do that much less know how to install the proper software to do it.

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