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  • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
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    Jews and Palestinians are both Indigenous

    Both Palestinians and Jews have thousands of years of [continuous] history in the Levant region, this is an objectively true FACT that is often denied by advocates of both groups in order to try to win points for their case. This however does a great disservice to both groups and makes solving the Israeli Palestinian conflict impossible.

    #Native #Indigenous #Racism #Bigotry #Antisemitism #Islamophobia #Israel #Palestine
    --> https://www.patreon.com/posts/there-are-no-149790507

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    • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

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      Jews and Palestinians are both Indigenous

      Both Palestinians and Jews have thousands of years of [continuous] history in the Levant region, this is an objectively true FACT that is often denied by advocates of both groups in order to try to win points for their case. This however does a great disservice to both groups and makes solving the Israeli Palestinian conflict impossible.

      #Native #Indigenous #Racism #Bigotry #Antisemitism #Islamophobia #Israel #Palestine
      --> https://www.patreon.com/posts/there-are-no-149790507

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      @Yehuda

      Get with the times, the problem is (and actually has always been) with the zionist settlers. Not the jews. That was and is still being used by said zionists as a manipulation to divide and conquer.

      #IsraelTerroristState

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        @Yehuda

        Get with the times, the problem is (and actually has always been) with the zionist settlers. Not the jews. That was and is still being used by said zionists as a manipulation to divide and conquer.

        #IsraelTerroristState

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        @Fou_ad Fuck you, you're a bigot, a hater and anti-Indigenous.

        Neither the Jews or Palestinians from anywhere in the world are colonizers or settlers to their ancestral lands.

        It's people like you that harm both groups.

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        • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

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          Jews and Palestinians are both Indigenous

          Both Palestinians and Jews have thousands of years of [continuous] history in the Levant region, this is an objectively true FACT that is often denied by advocates of both groups in order to try to win points for their case. This however does a great disservice to both groups and makes solving the Israeli Palestinian conflict impossible.

          #Native #Indigenous #Racism #Bigotry #Antisemitism #Islamophobia #Israel #Palestine
          --> https://www.patreon.com/posts/there-are-no-149790507

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          Denial of the Indigeneity of either group and their Indigenous rights, Jews or Palestinians is bigotry, hate and is very anti-Indigenous.

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          • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

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            Jews and Palestinians are both Indigenous

            Both Palestinians and Jews have thousands of years of [continuous] history in the Levant region, this is an objectively true FACT that is often denied by advocates of both groups in order to try to win points for their case. This however does a great disservice to both groups and makes solving the Israeli Palestinian conflict impossible.

            #Native #Indigenous #Racism #Bigotry #Antisemitism #Islamophobia #Israel #Palestine
            --> https://www.patreon.com/posts/there-are-no-149790507

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            I've been very traumatized post-Oct 7 and the rape/murder of my cousin. This blog post is one that you really can't comment on without reading the whole blog post, or you reveal yourself to be ignorant. It's unfortunate that much of the terminology was developed before Indigenous rights became widely accepted.

            Certainly have an intelligent, factually informed and civil conversation with me if I have the spoons, but I'm sick of all these white or assimilated people driving the conversation.

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            • fou_ad@mastodon.worldF fou_ad@mastodon.world

              @Yehuda

              Get with the times, the problem is (and actually has always been) with the zionist settlers. Not the jews. That was and is still being used by said zionists as a manipulation to divide and conquer.

              #IsraelTerroristState

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              @Fou_ad @Yehuda
              Could you please clarify who do you refer to by "settlers"?

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              • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

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                Jews and Palestinians are both Indigenous

                Both Palestinians and Jews have thousands of years of [continuous] history in the Levant region, this is an objectively true FACT that is often denied by advocates of both groups in order to try to win points for their case. This however does a great disservice to both groups and makes solving the Israeli Palestinian conflict impossible.

                #Native #Indigenous #Racism #Bigotry #Antisemitism #Islamophobia #Israel #Palestine
                --> https://www.patreon.com/posts/there-are-no-149790507

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                Yeah, I've been traumatized, but I am healing, and I have done my homework.

                Turtle Island is a North American Native/Indigenous instance and even so, there will be no bigoted double standards applied to Indigenous people anywhere on this instance.

                Right-wing extremist pseudo-religious governments of the Middle East have nothing to do with the people exactly the same as the right-wing extremist pseudo-religious #Felon47 regime and its horrors, has nothing to do with people of the US.

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                  @Fou_ad @Yehuda
                  Could you please clarify who do you refer to by "settlers"?

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                  @tzafrir @Yehuda

                  The jewish diaspora imported into Israel during and after the violent colonization of Palestine.
                  But do not put your ideas onto my words. I do not wish to repeat history again by ethnicamly cleansing all the current residents of Israel. But I do want to see 'from the river to the sea' one state for all the inhabitants. With reparations and justice for those who are still refugees in and outside the land of their ancestors (not those who took a 2000 year trip).

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                  • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

                    3/
                    I've been very traumatized post-Oct 7 and the rape/murder of my cousin. This blog post is one that you really can't comment on without reading the whole blog post, or you reveal yourself to be ignorant. It's unfortunate that much of the terminology was developed before Indigenous rights became widely accepted.

                    Certainly have an intelligent, factually informed and civil conversation with me if I have the spoons, but I'm sick of all these white or assimilated people driving the conversation.

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                    @Yehuda That is painful to hear. I'm saddened; sorry is the wrong word.

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                    • fou_ad@mastodon.worldF fou_ad@mastodon.world

                      @tzafrir @Yehuda

                      The jewish diaspora imported into Israel during and after the violent colonization of Palestine.
                      But do not put your ideas onto my words. I do not wish to repeat history again by ethnicamly cleansing all the current residents of Israel. But I do want to see 'from the river to the sea' one state for all the inhabitants. With reparations and justice for those who are still refugees in and outside the land of their ancestors (not those who took a 2000 year trip).

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                      @Fou_ad @Yehuda

                      As I don't want to merely rehash a discussion we all know very well, I'll link to a group I heard about recently. I'm still not sure what I think about them. But I think both of you may find it as an interesting point of view:

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                      home | Anahnu movement

                      A new unity between the left and the right in Israel

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                      anahnu (www.anahnu.org.il)

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