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πŸ“Š Fediverse Awareness Check:

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  • jaz@toot.walesJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    πŸ“Š Fediverse Awareness Check:

    When you hit send on a post, your app sends copies of that post to be stored on over 40,000 connected servers (hard drives) around the world.

    When you delete a post, it sends a request to those servers to delete their copy, but it can't always be guaranteed and your post may remain visible online.

    Are you aware of this?

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      πŸ“Š Fediverse Awareness Check:

      When you hit send on a post, your app sends copies of that post to be stored on over 40,000 connected servers (hard drives) around the world.

      When you delete a post, it sends a request to those servers to delete their copy, but it can't always be guaranteed and your post may remain visible online.

      Are you aware of this?

      jaz@toot.walesJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      Some additional reading:

      How do I delete a post? https://fedi.tips/how-do-i-delete-a-post-on-mastodon/

      Who can see my posts and replies? https://fedi.tips/who-can-see-my-posts-in-mastodon-how-do-i-send-dms-in-mastodon/

      Fediverse never Forgets https://berk.es/2022/12/23/fediverse-never-forgets/

      Provide a mechanism for acknowledgements of Delete activities https://github.com/w3c/activitypub/issues/406

      Improve UI/UX copy for "Automated Post Deletion" to clarify data persistence https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/discussions/37955

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        Some additional reading:

        How do I delete a post? https://fedi.tips/how-do-i-delete-a-post-on-mastodon/

        Who can see my posts and replies? https://fedi.tips/who-can-see-my-posts-in-mastodon-how-do-i-send-dms-in-mastodon/

        Fediverse never Forgets https://berk.es/2022/12/23/fediverse-never-forgets/

        Provide a mechanism for acknowledgements of Delete activities https://github.com/w3c/activitypub/issues/406

        Improve UI/UX copy for "Automated Post Deletion" to clarify data persistence https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/discussions/37955

        jaz@toot.walesJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        Why "Delete" is complicated in the #Fediverse

        Unlike X or Facebook where one company owns the only copy of your post, Mastodon and other Social Web apps use the #ActivityPub protocol.

        When you post, your server (e.g. toot.wales) sends a copy to some number of servers (e.g. mastodon.social) - anywhere from one to 40,000 depending on a bunch of stuff.

        When you delete, your server sends a Delete request to all those same servers.

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          Why "Delete" is complicated in the #Fediverse

          Unlike X or Facebook where one company owns the only copy of your post, Mastodon and other Social Web apps use the #ActivityPub protocol.

          When you post, your server (e.g. toot.wales) sends a copy to some number of servers (e.g. mastodon.social) - anywhere from one to 40,000 depending on a bunch of stuff.

          When you delete, your server sends a Delete request to all those same servers.

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          However, your server can't force the other 40,000 servers to actually erase the data.

          Most servers honour the request instantly, but if a server is offline, over-capacity, or malicious, that copy may stay on their hard drive, and visible online, indefinitely.

          In the decentralised world of the Social Web, "Delete" is a request, not a command.

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          • jaz@toot.walesJ jaz@toot.wales

            πŸ“Š Fediverse Awareness Check:

            When you hit send on a post, your app sends copies of that post to be stored on over 40,000 connected servers (hard drives) around the world.

            When you delete a post, it sends a request to those servers to delete their copy, but it can't always be guaranteed and your post may remain visible online.

            Are you aware of this?

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            @jaz I confess that I’ve never thought about it. Makes sense.

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