Prof. Peter Hotez says what many of have been feeling and wondering - we grew up assuming that the American people were smart, educated, knowledgeable, thoughtful, creative, forward looking.
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Prof. Peter Hotez says what many of have been feeling and wondering - we grew up assuming that the American people were smart, educated, knowledgeable, thoughtful, creative, forward looking. But look at the vast swath of the population now, lapping up the lies, gaslighting and snake-oil emanating from grifters in right-wing media, republican leaders, billionaires and the current White House.
How will we turn things around?
#UsPol
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Prof. Peter Hotez says what many of have been feeling and wondering - we grew up assuming that the American people were smart, educated, knowledgeable, thoughtful, creative, forward looking. But look at the vast swath of the population now, lapping up the lies, gaslighting and snake-oil emanating from grifters in right-wing media, republican leaders, billionaires and the current White House.
How will we turn things around?
#UsPol
1/nThis is the saddest part. AI seems like the culmination of this fight against intellectualism and critical thinking. People who can't think critically are easier to control. I don't know what it would take to get a mass movement to rebel and value knowledge and expertise.
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Prof. Peter Hotez says what many of have been feeling and wondering - we grew up assuming that the American people were smart, educated, knowledgeable, thoughtful, creative, forward looking. But look at the vast swath of the population now, lapping up the lies, gaslighting and snake-oil emanating from grifters in right-wing media, republican leaders, billionaires and the current White House.
How will we turn things around?
#UsPol
1/n@AkaSci It feels like we're drowning in algorithmic noise. My tiny rebellion as a dev is building offline-first Swift apps that don't feed the data machine or rely on LLM wrappers. We turn it around by building small, reliable tools that respect human agency instead of exploiting it.
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This is the saddest part. AI seems like the culmination of this fight against intellectualism and critical thinking. People who can't think critically are easier to control. I don't know what it would take to get a mass movement to rebel and value knowledge and expertise.
I was also surprised to learn, that the system was built this way:
13reak :fedora: (@13reak@infosec.exchange)
Eye opening video examining the US education system and the consequences of 250 years of that system: (Don't get fooled by the title) https://youtu.be/j9MubNsh3rs?is=PA43lvHZ-49uteMo
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Prof. Peter Hotez says what many of have been feeling and wondering - we grew up assuming that the American people were smart, educated, knowledgeable, thoughtful, creative, forward looking. But look at the vast swath of the population now, lapping up the lies, gaslighting and snake-oil emanating from grifters in right-wing media, republican leaders, billionaires and the current White House.
How will we turn things around?
#UsPol
1/nThey've industrialized the malfunction, but I don't think it's new. I mean look at all the cults and mystical movements of the 19th century. Maybe it's cyclic?
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Prof. Peter Hotez says what many of have been feeling and wondering - we grew up assuming that the American people were smart, educated, knowledgeable, thoughtful, creative, forward looking. But look at the vast swath of the population now, lapping up the lies, gaslighting and snake-oil emanating from grifters in right-wing media, republican leaders, billionaires and the current White House.
How will we turn things around?
#UsPol
1/n@AkaSci
"...I never thought the American people could be this gullible or susceptible..."It's all been carefully choreographed for several decades.
You get that, right?
Suggested read:
Inventing Reality by Michael Parenti
https://archive.org/details/inventingreality00pare/page/n3/mode/2up -
Prof. Peter Hotez says what many of have been feeling and wondering - we grew up assuming that the American people were smart, educated, knowledgeable, thoughtful, creative, forward looking. But look at the vast swath of the population now, lapping up the lies, gaslighting and snake-oil emanating from grifters in right-wing media, republican leaders, billionaires and the current White House.
How will we turn things around?
#UsPol
1/n@AkaSci
IMO the first step is to look *hard* at your founding myths. Far too many Americans seem to accept them as gospel.(Brit speaking. I'm reasonably well educated, and it took me til Brexit to notice that the UK has a land border with the EU. To my abiding shame.)
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Prof. Peter Hotez says what many of have been feeling and wondering - we grew up assuming that the American people were smart, educated, knowledgeable, thoughtful, creative, forward looking. But look at the vast swath of the population now, lapping up the lies, gaslighting and snake-oil emanating from grifters in right-wing media, republican leaders, billionaires and the current White House.
How will we turn things around?
#UsPol
1/nhe must have lived in an atmosphere of great privilege not to notice that the hatred of smart, educated etc. people has always been a huge part of American reality
he never heard of PT Barnam? or Reagan, who could never have been elected if large numbers of Americans were capable of critical thinking or determining their own self interest?
the anti-intellectual character of the average American has been exploited for centuries
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Prof. Peter Hotez says what many of have been feeling and wondering - we grew up assuming that the American people were smart, educated, knowledgeable, thoughtful, creative, forward looking. But look at the vast swath of the population now, lapping up the lies, gaslighting and snake-oil emanating from grifters in right-wing media, republican leaders, billionaires and the current White House.
How will we turn things around?
#UsPol
1/n@AkaSci I didn't grow up that way. Even during Reagan it was clear that American education was weak, that our science and engineering needed smart people from other countries, that our success was mostly due to being the only intact industrial economy after WW II and structuring an international economic order that was favorable to us. That time has ended and once China finishes killing Former US tech dominance, it will recede to a "middle power" with few allies and way too many nukes, at best.
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Prof. Peter Hotez says what many of have been feeling and wondering - we grew up assuming that the American people were smart, educated, knowledgeable, thoughtful, creative, forward looking. But look at the vast swath of the population now, lapping up the lies, gaslighting and snake-oil emanating from grifters in right-wing media, republican leaders, billionaires and the current White House.
How will we turn things around?
#UsPol
1/nThe religious statistics have shown the USA has always had a large fraction of biblical literalists, we're just suffering from them loving child abusers and so put an antiintellectual crook in power
Young earth creationism directly contradicts scientific evidence and a large fraction of america says they believe that.
https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/survey-37-of-americans-are-creationists(Also that 37% creationists is about the same as trumps approval rating floor. I wonder how much overlap there is between the two sets.)
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"...I never thought the American people could be this gullible or susceptible..."It's all been carefully choreographed for several decades.
You get that, right?
Suggested read:
Inventing Reality by Michael Parenti
https://archive.org/details/inventingreality00pare/page/n3/mode/2upKoch Network was so distressed by the dismantling of Jim Crow & deconstitution of segregation that it set itself the goal of destroying the American public education system to rebuild it.
Why? To enrich themselves at everyone else's expense. Divide & conquer for billionaires by billionaires.
Average literacy is at 6th grade & falling; The Moneyed have been that successful at manufacturing morons for personal & partisan profit.
https://jacobin.com/2018/06/public-education-privatization-koch-brothers-teachers -
Prof. Peter Hotez says what many of have been feeling and wondering - we grew up assuming that the American people were smart, educated, knowledgeable, thoughtful, creative, forward looking. But look at the vast swath of the population now, lapping up the lies, gaslighting and snake-oil emanating from grifters in right-wing media, republican leaders, billionaires and the current White House.
How will we turn things around?
#UsPol
1/n@AkaSci
Plato and Aristotle ethos of domination is on the side of the likes of the far right though. -
Prof. Peter Hotez says what many of have been feeling and wondering - we grew up assuming that the American people were smart, educated, knowledgeable, thoughtful, creative, forward looking. But look at the vast swath of the population now, lapping up the lies, gaslighting and snake-oil emanating from grifters in right-wing media, republican leaders, billionaires and the current White House.
How will we turn things around?
#UsPol
1/nThe goal of this discussion should not be to critique Prof. Hotez or to claim "I told you so."
One of the goals should be to look for solutions, even if they sound vague and difficult.
E.g., how can we help people recognize and reject the peddlers of disinformation? Get them to join the Fediverse?
Another objective would be to influence people to reject the MAGA party and to vote for Democrats (even if Democrats are imperfect).
Your thoughts?
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They've industrialized the malfunction, but I don't think it's new. I mean look at all the cults and mystical movements of the 19th century. Maybe it's cyclic?
hard agree on this, and even without going that far back, when were USA citizens reading Plato and Aristotles? whilst Obama was normalising drone strikes without congress aproval? during Reaganomics? when Clinton was shagging in the oval office? when Nixon was using the CIA to spy on opponents? when Bush senior was kidnapping the leader of Panama or when Bush junior used lies to invade Iraq?
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Prof. Peter Hotez says what many of have been feeling and wondering - we grew up assuming that the American people were smart, educated, knowledgeable, thoughtful, creative, forward looking. But look at the vast swath of the population now, lapping up the lies, gaslighting and snake-oil emanating from grifters in right-wing media, republican leaders, billionaires and the current White House.
How will we turn things around?
#UsPol
1/n@AkaSci I have limited ideas, but an approach I am taking is
1) trying to help people in my life with media literacy. In particular I try to point out author credibility or lack there of. Because our world is built on technologies too complex to understand for yourself without dedicated study, producing solid sounding misinformation is so so easy, and often the only way to tell is to undertatand the authors incentives for making the content.
2) trying to use popular, non-polarized, and easily verifiable topics where I also carry some credibility to suggest “you’re being lied to”. People love public land, want clean water, etc. and of course those things are under attack right now. Fox and friends spun the fact that the forest service field offices are closing and the hq is going to Utah into just “forest service moves out west where it manages”. That’s an opportunity to erode some of their credibility. But fuck it’s tiresome, like youd think if people became convinced a source had just lied they’d change sources… I also try to push sources with the argument that they have been accurate for topics where I am an expert. -
I was also surprised to learn, that the system was built this way:
13reak :fedora: (@13reak@infosec.exchange)
Eye opening video examining the US education system and the consequences of 250 years of that system: (Don't get fooled by the title) https://youtu.be/j9MubNsh3rs?is=PA43lvHZ-49uteMo
Infosec Exchange (infosec.exchange)
100+ years of corporate, anti union propaganda, Nazi infiltrators who never faced justice, and a court system that for most of its existence was biased towards the worst of capitalism and market manipulation, plus an education system designed to produce yes men. I mean, did the bulk of Americans stand a chance against these forces?
Add structural racism to blatant theft of indigenous lands, colonialism and rampant fraud, and you wonder why people are fighting back, if mostly ineffectually?
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he must have lived in an atmosphere of great privilege not to notice that the hatred of smart, educated etc. people has always been a huge part of American reality
he never heard of PT Barnam? or Reagan, who could never have been elected if large numbers of Americans were capable of critical thinking or determining their own self interest?
the anti-intellectual character of the average American has been exploited for centuries
@peachfront @AkaSci I don’t think anybody could comprehend the selfish and angry people who voted for a convicted felon, rapist, thug, corrupt capitalist. Critical thinking, and civics have gone to the wayside in our public education, breeding discontent out of ignorance. It has been the GOP’s plan since the late 80s.
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Prof. Peter Hotez says what many of have been feeling and wondering - we grew up assuming that the American people were smart, educated, knowledgeable, thoughtful, creative, forward looking. But look at the vast swath of the population now, lapping up the lies, gaslighting and snake-oil emanating from grifters in right-wing media, republican leaders, billionaires and the current White House.
How will we turn things around?
#UsPol
1/n@AkaSci I have said for a while that our problems are a result of bad education. Even if the current administration is somehow removed, we are still left with an America with no ethical center, a resistance to science and history, a racist core, and a penchant for sensationalism over journalism. The problem with America is still the Americans.
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Prof. Peter Hotez says what many of have been feeling and wondering - we grew up assuming that the American people were smart, educated, knowledgeable, thoughtful, creative, forward looking. But look at the vast swath of the population now, lapping up the lies, gaslighting and snake-oil emanating from grifters in right-wing media, republican leaders, billionaires and the current White House.
How will we turn things around?
#UsPol
1/n@AkaSci I worry that there is no practical solution to this--we need our representative governments to actually represent us; the wealth controlling our media, our education system, and our government will do what they can to continue manipulating us.
We're stuck in a loop where the only way to create an educated citizenry is through education, but the media we use to deliver education is thoroughly dominated by a small handful of wealthy platforms (with a small handful of wealthy owners).
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@AkaSci I worry that there is no practical solution to this--we need our representative governments to actually represent us; the wealth controlling our media, our education system, and our government will do what they can to continue manipulating us.
We're stuck in a loop where the only way to create an educated citizenry is through education, but the media we use to deliver education is thoroughly dominated by a small handful of wealthy platforms (with a small handful of wealthy owners).
@AkaSci I fear the only change that will prevent this from continuing will have to be a massive societal/economic change instigated by a force of equal power to this small handful of wealthy people.
Our centralized systems of education rest on a centralized economy, and all of our centralized systems have been compromised at a fundamental level.
I think any practical solution will probably have to rest on violence. Our existing systems are compromised beyond their ability to self-correct.
