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SELF-PUBLISHED AUTHOR FRIENDSThis *INSANE* email from Barnes & Noble WTF—no more than 100 books and they start deleting??—removing titles that don't meet minimum sales?

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  • miswiredke@toot.communityM miswiredke@toot.community

    @Firlefanz @susankayequinn @hiisikoloart interesting. I'll give it a check.

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    @MisWiredKE

    It's only for ebooks and audio, though, they don't have a print branch.

    On the other hand, my print sales are far and few between... I'd say 98% of my royalties are ebook.

    @susankayequinn @hiisikoloart

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    • firlefanz@writing.exchangeF firlefanz@writing.exchange

      @MisWiredKE

      It's only for ebooks and audio, though, they don't have a print branch.

      On the other hand, my print sales are far and few between... I'd say 98% of my royalties are ebook.

      @susankayequinn @hiisikoloart

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      @Firlefanz @susankayequinn @hiisikoloart same here. People are preferring digital copies of books more than physical copies it seems.

      So I think having just one place for physical copies is fine at the moment. And KDP seems to be doing fine for that (as much as I have my own issues with Amazon and their subsidiaries)

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      • jessmahler@indiepocalypse.socialJ jessmahler@indiepocalypse.social

        @hiisikoloart

        I want to offer to trade, bc I could really use art for book covers rather than trying to cobble something up myself, and I don't mind doing publishing stuff. But my health is such I'm not very reliable in terms of getting shit done in a timely fashion.

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        @JessMahler
        Would you like to dicuss this more via email?
        I would like to know more about your skilllsets and time line that you could possibly work with. 🙂 if your skills match, I'd love to work with you.

        My email is: hiisikoloart@gmail.com

        Also my website for you to see my art skills:
        https://mxmilo.wixsite.com/hiisikoloart

        My very sad author website that has not seen updates for a while: https://mxmilo.wixsite.com/marareboi

        (Website updates are on my long to-do list)

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        • miswiredke@toot.communityM miswiredke@toot.community

          @Firlefanz @susankayequinn @hiisikoloart same here. People are preferring digital copies of books more than physical copies it seems.

          So I think having just one place for physical copies is fine at the moment. And KDP seems to be doing fine for that (as much as I have my own issues with Amazon and their subsidiaries)

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          @MisWiredKE

          I recently started using D2D for print distribution (yes, yes, I know), because they use Ingram Spark without any cost to me.

          And that means I can get my print books into the German bookstores and distribution system, among others. This is huge.

          @susankayequinn @hiisikoloart

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          • firlefanz@writing.exchangeF firlefanz@writing.exchange

            @MisWiredKE

            I recently started using D2D for print distribution (yes, yes, I know), because they use Ingram Spark without any cost to me.

            And that means I can get my print books into the German bookstores and distribution system, among others. This is huge.

            @susankayequinn @hiisikoloart

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            @Firlefanz @susankayequinn @hiisikoloart wow. This change must really suck for you then.

            I tried using it for print distribution as well, but the page count just didn't line up for me.

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            • miswiredke@toot.communityM miswiredke@toot.community

              @Firlefanz @susankayequinn @hiisikoloart wow. This change must really suck for you then.

              I tried using it for print distribution as well, but the page count just didn't line up for me.

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              @MisWiredKE

              I basically just take the print files I toss up on KDP and dump them into D2D. Works easily.

              Haven't *sold* a print copy that way yet, but... it's all about making it possible for readers.

              @susankayequinn @hiisikoloart

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              • firlefanz@writing.exchangeF firlefanz@writing.exchange

                @MisWiredKE

                I basically just take the print files I toss up on KDP and dump them into D2D. Works easily.

                Haven't *sold* a print copy that way yet, but... it's all about making it possible for readers.

                @susankayequinn @hiisikoloart

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                @Firlefanz @MisWiredKE @hiisikoloart

                Just FYI: I use IngramSpark direct for print distribution (to get to Bookshop, libraries and bookstores worldwide, etc). They did away with upload fees, free ISBN, same (if not better) quality as KDP. I haven't got all my books moved over there yet, but just because I have a big catalog.

                Kobo also has an option to distribute ebooks to libraries, which is a great reason to go direct with them.

                In case you haven't seen it: https://wandering.shop/@susankayequinn/115895107254032111

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                • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

                  @Firlefanz @MisWiredKE @hiisikoloart

                  Just FYI: I use IngramSpark direct for print distribution (to get to Bookshop, libraries and bookstores worldwide, etc). They did away with upload fees, free ISBN, same (if not better) quality as KDP. I haven't got all my books moved over there yet, but just because I have a big catalog.

                  Kobo also has an option to distribute ebooks to libraries, which is a great reason to go direct with them.

                  In case you haven't seen it: https://wandering.shop/@susankayequinn/115895107254032111

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                  @susankayequinn @Firlefanz @hiisikoloart I was actually considering Kobo, but I'm still struggling to get my bank details sorted (branch location issue).

                  But I'll definitely check out IngramSpark

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                  • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

                    @Firlefanz @MisWiredKE @hiisikoloart

                    Just FYI: I use IngramSpark direct for print distribution (to get to Bookshop, libraries and bookstores worldwide, etc). They did away with upload fees, free ISBN, same (if not better) quality as KDP. I haven't got all my books moved over there yet, but just because I have a big catalog.

                    Kobo also has an option to distribute ebooks to libraries, which is a great reason to go direct with them.

                    In case you haven't seen it: https://wandering.shop/@susankayequinn/115895107254032111

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                    @Firlefanz @MisWiredKE @hiisikoloart

                    You need to do what works for you, but with enshittification, there's no "clean" answer for "where to publish your books." Earlier in the year, I sat down and took a hard look at all the terrible things happening (including D2D, AI in KDP etc) and decided it was more important to get my subversive books to people, even if I have to use shitty retailers. But I would try to move people toward bookshop (and the library) because it's a more ethical option.

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                    • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

                      @Firlefanz @MisWiredKE @hiisikoloart

                      You need to do what works for you, but with enshittification, there's no "clean" answer for "where to publish your books." Earlier in the year, I sat down and took a hard look at all the terrible things happening (including D2D, AI in KDP etc) and decided it was more important to get my subversive books to people, even if I have to use shitty retailers. But I would try to move people toward bookshop (and the library) because it's a more ethical option.

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                      @susankayequinn @Firlefanz @hiisikoloart definitely. I'm not exactly stingy because of how many hoops I end up having to jump through as an author based in Kenya. So if I get a place that works, I rarely pass it up.

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                      • miswiredke@toot.communityM miswiredke@toot.community

                        @susankayequinn @Firlefanz @hiisikoloart definitely. I'm not exactly stingy because of how many hoops I end up having to jump through as an author based in Kenya. So if I get a place that works, I rarely pass it up.

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                        @MisWiredKE @Firlefanz @hiisikoloart

                        Authors outside the US definitely face challenges that it's hard for me to see; but the biggest challenge seems to be that things just change so quickly. Just when you think you know how it all works, Ingramspark will drop their fees (or D2D will introduce new ones!). It's a challenge to keep up, but that's also why I love the indie author community -- because we help each other out!

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                        • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

                          @MisWiredKE @Firlefanz @hiisikoloart

                          Authors outside the US definitely face challenges that it's hard for me to see; but the biggest challenge seems to be that things just change so quickly. Just when you think you know how it all works, Ingramspark will drop their fees (or D2D will introduce new ones!). It's a challenge to keep up, but that's also why I love the indie author community -- because we help each other out!

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                          @susankayequinn @Firlefanz @hiisikoloart true. Like I just took a look at IngramSpark and apparently my country doesn't support digital signatures (something I didn't know or realize until now).

                          So I absolutely appreciate the indie author community when they talk about things. Even if I ultimately don't use it, I can always share that information.

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                          • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

                            @Firlefanz @MisWiredKE @hiisikoloart

                            Just FYI: I use IngramSpark direct for print distribution (to get to Bookshop, libraries and bookstores worldwide, etc). They did away with upload fees, free ISBN, same (if not better) quality as KDP. I haven't got all my books moved over there yet, but just because I have a big catalog.

                            Kobo also has an option to distribute ebooks to libraries, which is a great reason to go direct with them.

                            In case you haven't seen it: https://wandering.shop/@susankayequinn/115895107254032111

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                            @susankayequinn

                            Oh! I didn't realize that Ingram Spark did away with the fee. That does make it easier to go direct with them for print.

                            @MisWiredKE @hiisikoloart

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                            • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

                              @Firlefanz @MisWiredKE @hiisikoloart

                              You need to do what works for you, but with enshittification, there's no "clean" answer for "where to publish your books." Earlier in the year, I sat down and took a hard look at all the terrible things happening (including D2D, AI in KDP etc) and decided it was more important to get my subversive books to people, even if I have to use shitty retailers. But I would try to move people toward bookshop (and the library) because it's a more ethical option.

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                              @susankayequinn

                              Oh, yeah. I sorted my links in B2R accordingly (although I did put my direct store first). Need to bring the libraries up higher, but I did push Amazon down.

                              @MisWiredKE @hiisikoloart

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                              • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

                                @Firlefanz @MisWiredKE @hiisikoloart

                                You need to do what works for you, but with enshittification, there's no "clean" answer for "where to publish your books." Earlier in the year, I sat down and took a hard look at all the terrible things happening (including D2D, AI in KDP etc) and decided it was more important to get my subversive books to people, even if I have to use shitty retailers. But I would try to move people toward bookshop (and the library) because it's a more ethical option.

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                                @susankayequinn @Firlefanz @MisWiredKE @hiisikoloart My current Evil Idea (tm) is to put the so-called "reader magnet" stuff (background stories, et. al.) up on Amazon as low cost e-books and have the back matter point readers to my website where they can get the full book. The inexpensive stuff will still be complete works, but adjacent to the actual novel.

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                                  @susankayequinn @Firlefanz @MisWiredKE @hiisikoloart My current Evil Idea (tm) is to put the so-called "reader magnet" stuff (background stories, et. al.) up on Amazon as low cost e-books and have the back matter point readers to my website where they can get the full book. The inexpensive stuff will still be complete works, but adjacent to the actual novel.

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                                  @alan

                                  I understand that plan, but you will make readers angry more than anything - at least that would be my worry.

                                  I have backmatter that points to my store, and I offer a Book of the Month there at a price reduced by coupon (that way, Amazon doesn't wince).

                                  It is difficult to move Kindle readers away from their walled garden, I mean, I'm trying. I buy direct as much as I can, at least.

                                  I hope it works for you!

                                  @susankayequinn @MisWiredKE @hiisikoloart

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                                    @alan

                                    I understand that plan, but you will make readers angry more than anything - at least that would be my worry.

                                    I have backmatter that points to my store, and I offer a Book of the Month there at a price reduced by coupon (that way, Amazon doesn't wince).

                                    It is difficult to move Kindle readers away from their walled garden, I mean, I'm trying. I buy direct as much as I can, at least.

                                    I hope it works for you!

                                    @susankayequinn @MisWiredKE @hiisikoloart

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                                    @Firlefanz @susankayequinn @MisWiredKE @hiisikoloart Hey, they can get an EPUB file from me and read it on their device, DRM free. If you mean Kindle Unlimited, I ain't never touching that crap.

                                    As for making them angry, I'm not going to be misleading. This stuff (if I ever execute on the idea) would be billed as backstory/sidestory stuff right up front.

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                                      @alan

                                      I understand that plan, but you will make readers angry more than anything - at least that would be my worry.

                                      I have backmatter that points to my store, and I offer a Book of the Month there at a price reduced by coupon (that way, Amazon doesn't wince).

                                      It is difficult to move Kindle readers away from their walled garden, I mean, I'm trying. I buy direct as much as I can, at least.

                                      I hope it works for you!

                                      @susankayequinn @MisWiredKE @hiisikoloart

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                                      @alan I agree with @Firlefanz that Amazon readers will not be excited about having to go off-platform to get the books. It's fine to have free reader magnets on Amazon (great in fact)and it's fine to have other options for getting books and encouraging people to go there, but making your stuff exclusively available on your website will limit your reach.

                                      My approach is to make my books available everywhere and try to educate readers to move to more-ethical book buying:
                                      https://susankayequinn.com/how-to-buy-sues-books-a-guide-to-retailers

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                                      • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

                                        @alan I agree with @Firlefanz that Amazon readers will not be excited about having to go off-platform to get the books. It's fine to have free reader magnets on Amazon (great in fact)and it's fine to have other options for getting books and encouraging people to go there, but making your stuff exclusively available on your website will limit your reach.

                                        My approach is to make my books available everywhere and try to educate readers to move to more-ethical book buying:
                                        https://susankayequinn.com/how-to-buy-sues-books-a-guide-to-retailers

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                                        @susankayequinn @Firlefanz Free? Free my ass. Pay $0.99 for my side-story or GTFO. You want free, join my mailing list! I'm sick and tired of indie authors being so complicit in building their own ghetto.
                                        TANSTAAFL

                                        Also, excluding Amazon doesn't mean I'll be excluding other platforms. It's really a question if they go over an enshittification threshold, and Amazon has just recently cleared that bar.

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