I am 82 years old.
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I also live in Canada. My Dad was Canadian, my Mom a British war bride. I was born during one of Germany's bombing raids.@Ann1944 My dad came from England in 1919 and my mom was a french/cree woman.
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@Ann1944 You forgot big oil, industrial farming, fast food, increasing poverty, and … global warming. Yeah, I think you are right.
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I am 82 years old.
I have lived through the Cuban Missile Crisis, the JFK assassination, the Vietnam War, the Turmoil of 1968, Watergate, the Hostage Crisis, two oil crisis, disco, Reaganomics, 9/11.
The covid pandemic....
These past 11 months have been easily the most miserable era in America in my lifetime.
The hatred, the bigotry, the lies, the racketeering and pedophilia are beyond anything I have ever seen.
We are not going to hell as a nation.
We are IN hell.@Ann1944 All to aid those who ALREADY have obscenely far too much wealth and power.
None of these greedy bastards ever seen to stop and see all this. And to see and understand even a little what chronic poverty for others might feel like.
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@Ann1944 Let me tell you man i went to church today with my family and the hate from some people in church is outrageous. What is the reason people go to church???? To learn about God peace and love but this church people full of hate and why are you here among us. We sold our house few years ago and we use to go to the church in our way and now we are one hour away so we decided to go to the church near us about 1 mile but that was a serious mistake. Not 2 or 3 people but a number of them.
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I am 82 years old.
I have lived through the Cuban Missile Crisis, the JFK assassination, the Vietnam War, the Turmoil of 1968, Watergate, the Hostage Crisis, two oil crisis, disco, Reaganomics, 9/11.
The covid pandemic....
These past 11 months have been easily the most miserable era in America in my lifetime.
The hatred, the bigotry, the lies, the racketeering and pedophilia are beyond anything I have ever seen.
We are not going to hell as a nation.
We are IN hell.@Ann1944 Not quite your age, but me, too. And I agree.
I was just thinking about this yesterday as I went to bed. I got to see the pinnacle — which I consider the moon landing — and then the fall of America in my lifetime.
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* Everyone that votes is liable. *
@govinda_hari @Ann1944 sure wish the US let everyone vote, but unfortunately the prosecution for possession of small amounts of eminently plantable substances means the US police get to decide who in their community keeps their right to vote and who loses it to felony charges.
Also anyone who mails a ballot gets their shit challenged, and the challenge process often takes longer than the election.
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I am 82 years old.
I have lived through the Cuban Missile Crisis, the JFK assassination, the Vietnam War, the Turmoil of 1968, Watergate, the Hostage Crisis, two oil crisis, disco, Reaganomics, 9/11.
The covid pandemic....
These past 11 months have been easily the most miserable era in America in my lifetime.
The hatred, the bigotry, the lies, the racketeering and pedophilia are beyond anything I have ever seen.
We are not going to hell as a nation.
We are IN hell.@Ann1944 I'm only 77, but I have to agree with you.
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I am 82 years old.
I have lived through the Cuban Missile Crisis, the JFK assassination, the Vietnam War, the Turmoil of 1968, Watergate, the Hostage Crisis, two oil crisis, disco, Reaganomics, 9/11.
The covid pandemic....
These past 11 months have been easily the most miserable era in America in my lifetime.
The hatred, the bigotry, the lies, the racketeering and pedophilia are beyond anything I have ever seen.
We are not going to hell as a nation.
We are IN hell.@Ann1944 Same here Ann. Born 1946 and thinking about how I always looked forward to the "Golden Years". The hell we are in is not due to our age, it friggin Trump and his low life supporters!
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I am 82 years old.
I have lived through the Cuban Missile Crisis, the JFK assassination, the Vietnam War, the Turmoil of 1968, Watergate, the Hostage Crisis, two oil crisis, disco, Reaganomics, 9/11.
The covid pandemic....
These past 11 months have been easily the most miserable era in America in my lifetime.
The hatred, the bigotry, the lies, the racketeering and pedophilia are beyond anything I have ever seen.
We are not going to hell as a nation.
We are IN hell.@Ann1944 the riots following the police beating of Rodney King showed how fragile the situation was in the US. 45-47 AND his henchpeople (some scary smart, some dumb) have exploited that fragility and released the inner thug in half the population.
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I am 82 years old.
I have lived through the Cuban Missile Crisis, the JFK assassination, the Vietnam War, the Turmoil of 1968, Watergate, the Hostage Crisis, two oil crisis, disco, Reaganomics, 9/11.
The covid pandemic....
These past 11 months have been easily the most miserable era in America in my lifetime.
The hatred, the bigotry, the lies, the racketeering and pedophilia are beyond anything I have ever seen.
We are not going to hell as a nation.
We are IN hell.@Ann1944 I've lived in Israel since 1970. I've versed myself in the history of the world and of my people as much as I could.
The only era remotely comparable to what is happening today here (in Israel) and (from what I read) in the US and across most of the world, are the mid-to-late 1930's. The differences are of course many, but the similarities just cannot be ignored.
I'm terrified of what this makes of us and where this is leading us.
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I am 82 years old.
I have lived through the Cuban Missile Crisis, the JFK assassination, the Vietnam War, the Turmoil of 1968, Watergate, the Hostage Crisis, two oil crisis, disco, Reaganomics, 9/11.
The covid pandemic....
These past 11 months have been easily the most miserable era in America in my lifetime.
The hatred, the bigotry, the lies, the racketeering and pedophilia are beyond anything I have ever seen.
We are not going to hell as a nation.
We are IN hell.@Ann1944 damn that's a lot and you didn't even mention iraq or afganistan.
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That was bad, but something we could have recovered from if it had been a one-time thing. But Citizens United permanently gave the super rich a political tool to bend everything their way. It was all downhill from there.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC#Political_impact
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That was bad, but something we could have recovered from if it had been a one-time thing. But Citizens United permanently gave the super rich a political tool to bend everything their way. It was all downhill from there.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC#Political_impact
Also, FWIW? The 2001 decision to hand the presidency to Bush wasn't a cut-and-dried thing and was something our electoral system wasn't prepared to handle. The number of votes in question was *under* the margin of error. So each side kept insisting on recounts hoping the error would tip their way. Then the winning side wanted to stop the count.
The honorable thing to do would've been for Bush to concede because Gore won the popular vote. Didn't happen, of course.
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Also, FWIW? The 2001 decision to hand the presidency to Bush wasn't a cut-and-dried thing and was something our electoral system wasn't prepared to handle. The number of votes in question was *under* the margin of error. So each side kept insisting on recounts hoping the error would tip their way. Then the winning side wanted to stop the count.
The honorable thing to do would've been for Bush to concede because Gore won the popular vote. Didn't happen, of course.
NOTE: I lost a friendship from pointing out the margin of error thing and opining that something had to be done – even if I didn't like what *was* done. Because not everyone understands math and statistics.
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