I'm not totally against this flow.
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/116257025985973537
I'm not totally against this flow. Given the rampant abuse of people's computers with scam apps, a 24 hour cool-down period *might* work.
(Please read the Ars article before replying to me.)
You can read my original thoughts on the issue of #Android apps.
Is it possible to allow sideloading *and* keep users safe?
In which I attempt to be pragmatic. Are you allowed to run whatever computer program you want on the hardware you own? This is a question where freedom, practicality, and reality all collide into a mess. Google has recently announced that Android users will only be able to install apps which have been digitally signed by developers who have registered their name and other legal details with…
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/116257025985973537
I'm not totally against this flow. Given the rampant abuse of people's computers with scam apps, a 24 hour cool-down period *might* work.
(Please read the Ars article before replying to me.)
@Edent Still better than iOS, and a lot easier than installing a different ROM on your device.
I'm in favor.
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/116257025985973537
I'm not totally against this flow. Given the rampant abuse of people's computers with scam apps, a 24 hour cool-down period *might* work.
(Please read the Ars article before replying to me.)
@Edent Now it's been explained in more detail (I didn't know people were coerced into installing apps!), it makes a lot more sense and that cool-down period seems a fair compromise.
I like to think that I know what I'm doing with my phone, and I like having the choice to do those things.
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/116257025985973537
I'm not totally against this flow. Given the rampant abuse of people's computers with scam apps, a 24 hour cool-down period *might* work.
(Please read the Ars article before replying to me.)
Having read it... A 24hr cooldown period, for installing via Fdroid or another not-Google-approved store, is a death knell in competition.
Fdroid verifies each app with their own dev's keys, they can't re-sign the entire store or it defeats the entire point. Nor should they pay Google for a license to compete with Google.
That hasn't changed since your thoughts in August.
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@Edent Now it's been explained in more detail (I didn't know people were coerced into installing apps!), it makes a lot more sense and that cool-down period seems a fair compromise.
I like to think that I know what I'm doing with my phone, and I like having the choice to do those things.
@greem it is an epidemic.
"This is your bank calling, we need you to install this special app to prevent fraud!" -
RE: https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/116257025985973537
I'm not totally against this flow. Given the rampant abuse of people's computers with scam apps, a 24 hour cool-down period *might* work.
(Please read the Ars article before replying to me.)
@Edent
I tend to agree with you.
It is often difficult to strike the optimum compromise between functionality and security.
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@greem it is an epidemic.
"This is your bank calling, we need you to install this special app to prevent fraud!"@Edent I'm clearly not the target market for those scammers (thankfully).
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Having read it... A 24hr cooldown period, for installing via Fdroid or another not-Google-approved store, is a death knell in competition.
Fdroid verifies each app with their own dev's keys, they can't re-sign the entire store or it defeats the entire point. Nor should they pay Google for a license to compete with Google.
That hasn't changed since your thoughts in August.
@shaknais 24 hours once. You need 24 hours when you decide to install fdroid (unless they get verified, in that case 24 hours when you want to install the first app from fdroid), and after that you can sideload like now...
It's not ideal but it's better than ios. -
@shaknais 24 hours once. You need 24 hours when you decide to install fdroid (unless they get verified, in that case 24 hours when you want to install the first app from fdroid), and after that you can sideload like now...
It's not ideal but it's better than ios.Having my hand broken is better than being stabbed, yes.
Things are already an uneven playing ground. This is not competition. Which Google used to defend themselves, not so very long ago.
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/116257025985973537
I'm not totally against this flow. Given the rampant abuse of people's computers with scam apps, a 24 hour cool-down period *might* work.
(Please read the Ars article before replying to me.)
@Edent
I'm a bit worried about alternative app stores like f-droid though
