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  • cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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    Well this is truly bad. US national level OS-level age verification bill. https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8250/all-info

    The text of it isn't out yet.

    cwebber@social.coopC ? roknrol@beige.partyR K corb_the_lesser@mastodon.socialC 6 Replies Last reply
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    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

      Well this is truly bad. US national level OS-level age verification bill. https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8250/all-info

      The text of it isn't out yet.

      cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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      We don't know who's funding this stuff for sure, there was the vibecoded analysis that came to the conclusion of Meta, but I suspect that could be true but Meta wouldn't be alone.

      Who stands to benefit from this? A lot of forces of centralization, and anti-LGBTQ orgs:

      - Microsoft, for sure, since they are seeing Windows' dominance threatened?
      - Apple, for similar reasons?
      - Peter Theil and similar surveillance company owners and operators?
      - Anti-queer orgs and think tanks like the Heritage Foundation?
      - Cloudflare, who will probably run the age verification paywalls everyone will be forced to deploy?

      Who's behind this? Who's getting politicians so excited about it? There's such a swell of bipartisan support seemingly out of nowhere, and my suspicion is a lot of that enthusiasm is coming from check-writing.

      So who's behind it?

      burnoutqueen@todon.nlB cwebber@social.coopC K kbal@fedia.ioK zed@mstdn.partyZ 9 Replies Last reply
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      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

        We don't know who's funding this stuff for sure, there was the vibecoded analysis that came to the conclusion of Meta, but I suspect that could be true but Meta wouldn't be alone.

        Who stands to benefit from this? A lot of forces of centralization, and anti-LGBTQ orgs:

        - Microsoft, for sure, since they are seeing Windows' dominance threatened?
        - Apple, for similar reasons?
        - Peter Theil and similar surveillance company owners and operators?
        - Anti-queer orgs and think tanks like the Heritage Foundation?
        - Cloudflare, who will probably run the age verification paywalls everyone will be forced to deploy?

        Who's behind this? Who's getting politicians so excited about it? There's such a swell of bipartisan support seemingly out of nowhere, and my suspicion is a lot of that enthusiasm is coming from check-writing.

        So who's behind it?

        burnoutqueen@todon.nlB This user is from outside of this forum
        burnoutqueen@todon.nlB This user is from outside of this forum
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        @cwebber because we are governed by corpo backed Nazis who are eager to consolidate the fascist ownership and control of the media and both parties are filled to the brim with these scum.

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        • burnoutqueen@todon.nlB burnoutqueen@todon.nl

          @cwebber because we are governed by corpo backed Nazis who are eager to consolidate the fascist ownership and control of the media and both parties are filled to the brim with these scum.

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          @cwebber

          The fascist playbook is to use the pigs to kill the people who oppose the regime, and to use censorship to silence those who would support them.

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          • burnoutqueen@todon.nlB burnoutqueen@todon.nl

            @cwebber

            The fascist playbook is to use the pigs to kill the people who oppose the regime, and to use censorship to silence those who would support them.

            burnoutqueen@todon.nlB This user is from outside of this forum
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            @cwebber

            The function that was played by Gramscian hegemony is giving way to cold hard fascism.

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            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

              We don't know who's funding this stuff for sure, there was the vibecoded analysis that came to the conclusion of Meta, but I suspect that could be true but Meta wouldn't be alone.

              Who stands to benefit from this? A lot of forces of centralization, and anti-LGBTQ orgs:

              - Microsoft, for sure, since they are seeing Windows' dominance threatened?
              - Apple, for similar reasons?
              - Peter Theil and similar surveillance company owners and operators?
              - Anti-queer orgs and think tanks like the Heritage Foundation?
              - Cloudflare, who will probably run the age verification paywalls everyone will be forced to deploy?

              Who's behind this? Who's getting politicians so excited about it? There's such a swell of bipartisan support seemingly out of nowhere, and my suspicion is a lot of that enthusiasm is coming from check-writing.

              So who's behind it?

              cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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              If *I* were an investigative journalist, this is a piece I'd be pouring a lot of energy into. I know we have a few investigative journalists on here... maybe someone wants to take it up?

              duncan_bayne@mastodon.bsd.cafeD tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT 2 Replies Last reply
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              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                If *I* were an investigative journalist, this is a piece I'd be pouring a lot of energy into. I know we have a few investigative journalists on here... maybe someone wants to take it up?

                duncan_bayne@mastodon.bsd.cafeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                @cwebber It may just be old fashioned authoritarianism too, I guess. Very convenient for politicians if all online speech can be tied back to individuals through official ID.

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                • duncan_bayne@mastodon.bsd.cafeD duncan_bayne@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                  @cwebber It may just be old fashioned authoritarianism too, I guess. Very convenient for politicians if all online speech can be tied back to individuals through official ID.

                  chantaryu2@pataterie.caC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @duncan_bayne @cwebber but the politicians are rarely tech savvy enough to come up with the wording. It is often given to them.

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                  • chantaryu2@pataterie.caC chantaryu2@pataterie.ca

                    @duncan_bayne @cwebber but the politicians are rarely tech savvy enough to come up with the wording. It is often given to them.

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                    @chantaryu2 @cwebber Oh yeah. Meta and others are definitely involved. But it might not be cash changing hands, just the possibility of universal surveillance.

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                    • duncan_bayne@mastodon.bsd.cafeD duncan_bayne@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                      @chantaryu2 @cwebber Oh yeah. Meta and others are definitely involved. But it might not be cash changing hands, just the possibility of universal surveillance.

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                      @duncan_bayne @cwebber why not both? 😬

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                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                        Well this is truly bad. US national level OS-level age verification bill. https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8250/all-info

                        The text of it isn't out yet.

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                        @cwebber I can't wait to have to have my national id inserted into the computer at all times to operate it

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                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                          Well this is truly bad. US national level OS-level age verification bill. https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8250/all-info

                          The text of it isn't out yet.

                          roknrol@beige.partyR This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @cwebber They'll release 900 pages of dense legalese the night before the vote, and nobody will read it but they'll all vote on it and there will be just enough Democrats crossing the aisle to make it pass.

                          I remember the PATRIOT Act.

                          Before anyone attacks me for being a cynic and shutting down progress: Use this information to your advantage and harass the fuck out of your Congresspeople, as I will be.

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                            Well this is truly bad. US national level OS-level age verification bill. https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8250/all-info

                            The text of it isn't out yet.

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                            @cwebber whoever pushes this cyberfascist idea needs to be jailed for Crimes against Humanity!

                            • EVERYONE needs to REFUSE TO COMPLY as a matter of principle!!!

                            Kevin Karhan (@kkarhan@jorts.horse)

                            @copter_chief@mstdn.party @cwebber@social.coop the sheer (#cyberfascist) idea is wrong and *I'll refuse to comply as a matter of principle* with @OS1337@infosec.space!

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                            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                              We don't know who's funding this stuff for sure, there was the vibecoded analysis that came to the conclusion of Meta, but I suspect that could be true but Meta wouldn't be alone.

                              Who stands to benefit from this? A lot of forces of centralization, and anti-LGBTQ orgs:

                              - Microsoft, for sure, since they are seeing Windows' dominance threatened?
                              - Apple, for similar reasons?
                              - Peter Theil and similar surveillance company owners and operators?
                              - Anti-queer orgs and think tanks like the Heritage Foundation?
                              - Cloudflare, who will probably run the age verification paywalls everyone will be forced to deploy?

                              Who's behind this? Who's getting politicians so excited about it? There's such a swell of bipartisan support seemingly out of nowhere, and my suspicion is a lot of that enthusiasm is coming from check-writing.

                              So who's behind it?

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                              @cwebber You forgot #NSAbook / #StasiBook / #Facebook (I refuse to call it "#Meta!") who want to criminalize the #Fediverse and other decentralized competition!

                              • Same goes for any other business that may get treatened by it!
                                • EVERYONE needs to REFUSE TO COMPLY!

                              Kevin Karhan (@kkarhan@jorts.horse)

                              @cwebber@social.coop whoever pushes this cyberfascist idea needs to be jailed for Crimes against Humanity! - *EVERYONE* needs to *REFUSE TO COMPLY* as a matter of principle!!! https://jorts.horse/@kkarhan/116408661032102186

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                              • burnoutqueen@todon.nlB burnoutqueen@todon.nl

                                @cwebber

                                The fascist playbook is to use the pigs to kill the people who oppose the regime, and to use censorship to silence those who would support them.

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                                @burnoutqueen @cwebber EXACTLY!

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                                • duncan_bayne@mastodon.bsd.cafeD duncan_bayne@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                  @cwebber It may just be old fashioned authoritarianism too, I guess. Very convenient for politicians if all online speech can be tied back to individuals through official ID.

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                                  @duncan_bayne @cwebber precisely!

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                                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                    We don't know who's funding this stuff for sure, there was the vibecoded analysis that came to the conclusion of Meta, but I suspect that could be true but Meta wouldn't be alone.

                                    Who stands to benefit from this? A lot of forces of centralization, and anti-LGBTQ orgs:

                                    - Microsoft, for sure, since they are seeing Windows' dominance threatened?
                                    - Apple, for similar reasons?
                                    - Peter Theil and similar surveillance company owners and operators?
                                    - Anti-queer orgs and think tanks like the Heritage Foundation?
                                    - Cloudflare, who will probably run the age verification paywalls everyone will be forced to deploy?

                                    Who's behind this? Who's getting politicians so excited about it? There's such a swell of bipartisan support seemingly out of nowhere, and my suspicion is a lot of that enthusiasm is coming from check-writing.

                                    So who's behind it?

                                    kbal@fedia.ioK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    The name Elon comes to mind

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                                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                      We don't know who's funding this stuff for sure, there was the vibecoded analysis that came to the conclusion of Meta, but I suspect that could be true but Meta wouldn't be alone.

                                      Who stands to benefit from this? A lot of forces of centralization, and anti-LGBTQ orgs:

                                      - Microsoft, for sure, since they are seeing Windows' dominance threatened?
                                      - Apple, for similar reasons?
                                      - Peter Theil and similar surveillance company owners and operators?
                                      - Anti-queer orgs and think tanks like the Heritage Foundation?
                                      - Cloudflare, who will probably run the age verification paywalls everyone will be forced to deploy?

                                      Who's behind this? Who's getting politicians so excited about it? There's such a swell of bipartisan support seemingly out of nowhere, and my suspicion is a lot of that enthusiasm is coming from check-writing.

                                      So who's behind it?

                                      zed@mstdn.partyZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @cwebber I would assume it is not the platform owners (Apple and Microsoft) because their prior arguments have been that the social media companies should be doing the verification.

                                      And the social media companies want the platform owners to do the age verification.

                                      Neither group realizes we don’t need age verification at all, but when it comes to a bill that requires OS owners to build in age verification it wouldn’t make sense that Apple and Microsoft would be lobbying for it.

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                                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                        Well this is truly bad. US national level OS-level age verification bill. https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8250/all-info

                                        The text of it isn't out yet.

                                        corb_the_lesser@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @cwebber I think I'll say I'm 184.

                                        It's an absurd and dangerous thing.

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                                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                          We don't know who's funding this stuff for sure, there was the vibecoded analysis that came to the conclusion of Meta, but I suspect that could be true but Meta wouldn't be alone.

                                          Who stands to benefit from this? A lot of forces of centralization, and anti-LGBTQ orgs:

                                          - Microsoft, for sure, since they are seeing Windows' dominance threatened?
                                          - Apple, for similar reasons?
                                          - Peter Theil and similar surveillance company owners and operators?
                                          - Anti-queer orgs and think tanks like the Heritage Foundation?
                                          - Cloudflare, who will probably run the age verification paywalls everyone will be forced to deploy?

                                          Who's behind this? Who's getting politicians so excited about it? There's such a swell of bipartisan support seemingly out of nowhere, and my suspicion is a lot of that enthusiasm is coming from check-writing.

                                          So who's behind it?

                                          gert@social.coopG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @cwebber Move fast, break things and f**k the public.

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