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A 10/10 repairability score doesn’t happen by accident.

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  • thor@mast.ttk.isT thor@mast.ttk.is

    @dazo @iFixit I'll agree that they have some machines that could have been done better, but their overall good over bad is in the high numbers. I have a P53s, T15g1, a couple of Thinkpad Yogas (pre-forking of the Yoga brand) and a really old m-class CPU (next step after C2D). All of them have turned out to be 💯in terms of servicability. Even the oldest one which had a effed DSP. I could mute the DSP with a stick in the 3.5mm jack and just use a USB audio card instead.

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    @dazo @iFixit in contrast, my Toshiba laptops have been atrocious - especially the high-end one (a laptop that cost me $3k, had 4K display with touch, big HDD, dedicated ATI graphics etc) - insides look like someone randomly picked parts from AliExpress and hotglued them together. Quality is on par with the cheapest you can find in Temu.

    Even Apple does not come remotely close to the servicability of Thinkpads. (I was Apple tech from 2007-08, can attest for lack of quality and servicability!)

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    • ifixit@mastodon.socialI ifixit@mastodon.social

      A 10/10 repairability score doesn’t happen by accident. Lenovo’s newest ThinkPads prove that laptops can be powerful, durable, and actually repairable.

      Swappable batteries, modular parts, and one of the easiest keyboard replacements we’ve seen. Learn more about what makes these laptops amazing, at the link below.

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      Repair goes mega mainstream with the launch of Lenovo’s new T-series business laptops, which earned our highest honor with a 10/10 repairability score.

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      @iFixit Shrug https://frame.work Got There First. And you can buy them without paying the Microsoft Tax.

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      • vp9kf@mastodon.socialV vp9kf@mastodon.social

        @iFixit Your 'out of 10' scale needs recalibrating because there's plenty that's not fixable in this 10 scored unit. Then there's the Lenovo crapware which counts them out completely.

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        @vp9kf @iFixit That's the problem with these scales, eventually they get maxed out. I do hope iFixit addresses that, and not by recalibrating an out of 10 scale. That throws everything going forward out of whack with past results. Better to make it out of 15, and start working up towards that.

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        • oldwoofian@beige.partyO oldwoofian@beige.party

          @iFixit Out of curiosity, I looked at the guide on how to replace the motherboard on my Microsoft Surface Pro. I think I'll not even start to consider do8ng this.

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          @OldWoofian @iFixit All because you don't have a scalpel, a guitar pick, a heat gun and professional lock picking skills (or heart surgeon precision skills) laying around ?

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          • ifixit@mastodon.socialI ifixit@mastodon.social

            A 10/10 repairability score doesn’t happen by accident. Lenovo’s newest ThinkPads prove that laptops can be powerful, durable, and actually repairable.

            Swappable batteries, modular parts, and one of the easiest keyboard replacements we’ve seen. Learn more about what makes these laptops amazing, at the link below.

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            Lenovo’s New T-Series ThinkPads Score 10/10 for Repairability

            Repair goes mega mainstream with the launch of Lenovo’s new T-series business laptops, which earned our highest honor with a 10/10 repairability score.

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            @iFixit Buy this instead of a MacBook. K thx.

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            • badrihippo@fosstodon.orgB badrihippo@fosstodon.org

              @iFixit I'm kind of not buying mainstream (closed-hardware) laptops for now, but damn, if I wanted to then this would be the one I'd choose. I thought the ThinkPad line was in decline and I'm glad to hear that isn't entirely the case!

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              @badrihippo Yeah, I've been a Thinkpad going back to the last few generations of IBM. They've gone down hill over the years, but I still prefer them to HP and Dell for more minor reasons than the past. I'd decided to go Framework next time around, but this is tempting me.

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              • ljrk@todon.euL ljrk@todon.eu

                @iFixit Uhhh, LPCAMM2 is very nice indeed! I'd still have a hard time not missing the insane battery life and fanless performance of a MB Air, that kinda spoiled me. And yet...

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                @ljrk FWIW, Linux runs much better on my P14s than my MBA 😁

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                • avrona@masto.bikeA avrona@masto.bike

                  @OldWoofian @iFixit All because you don't have a scalpel, a guitar pick, a heat gun and professional lock picking skills (or heart surgeon precision skills) laying around ?

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                  @avrona @iFixit precisely!

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                  • ifixit@mastodon.socialI ifixit@mastodon.social

                    A 10/10 repairability score doesn’t happen by accident. Lenovo’s newest ThinkPads prove that laptops can be powerful, durable, and actually repairable.

                    Swappable batteries, modular parts, and one of the easiest keyboard replacements we’ve seen. Learn more about what makes these laptops amazing, at the link below.

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                    Lenovo’s New T-Series ThinkPads Score 10/10 for Repairability

                    Repair goes mega mainstream with the launch of Lenovo’s new T-series business laptops, which earned our highest honor with a 10/10 repairability score.

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                    @iFixit along with the option to buy new with Linux... Lenovo is killing it!

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                    • J jcarax@mastodon.social

                      @ljrk FWIW, Linux runs much better on my P14s than my MBA 😁

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                      @jcarax I had no issues with Asahi and soon-ish there'll be even USB-C DP mode and then I'm honestly fully satisfied ^^'

                      But it's mostly the hardware of the MBAs that's just crazy good

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                      • ifixit@mastodon.socialI ifixit@mastodon.social

                        A 10/10 repairability score doesn’t happen by accident. Lenovo’s newest ThinkPads prove that laptops can be powerful, durable, and actually repairable.

                        Swappable batteries, modular parts, and one of the easiest keyboard replacements we’ve seen. Learn more about what makes these laptops amazing, at the link below.

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                        Lenovo’s New T-Series ThinkPads Score 10/10 for Repairability

                        Repair goes mega mainstream with the launch of Lenovo’s new T-series business laptops, which earned our highest honor with a 10/10 repairability score.

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                        @iFixit fwiw I’ve had a bad experience with Lenovo. My ($1300) pc will freeze unexpectedly, randomly. And especially if the logi receiver is unplugged. No answer from the company as to how that gets fixed. And Linux can’t be installed on this model

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                        • ljrk@todon.euL ljrk@todon.eu

                          @jcarax I had no issues with Asahi and soon-ish there'll be even USB-C DP mode and then I'm honestly fully satisfied ^^'

                          But it's mostly the hardware of the MBAs that's just crazy good

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                          @ljrk It's better than a lot of laptops 15-20 years ago, in the dark days of compatibility. But DP alt and video decoding are pretty big shortcomings still. I do like it as a highly portable, passively cooled machine, but we'll hopefully see Snapdragon Elite support mature, and passive machines offered with that. The waiting game for new Macbooks to get hacked together support isn't great.

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                            @ljrk It's better than a lot of laptops 15-20 years ago, in the dark days of compatibility. But DP alt and video decoding are pretty big shortcomings still. I do like it as a highly portable, passively cooled machine, but we'll hopefully see Snapdragon Elite support mature, and passive machines offered with that. The waiting game for new Macbooks to get hacked together support isn't great.

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                            @jcarax Oh totally, but QCom is also not really known for keeping up their promises and r/n every laptop of theirs was something of a letdown. The MBA is there already so I'm not in the market of buying new anyway.

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                            • ifixit@mastodon.socialI ifixit@mastodon.social

                              A 10/10 repairability score doesn’t happen by accident. Lenovo’s newest ThinkPads prove that laptops can be powerful, durable, and actually repairable.

                              Swappable batteries, modular parts, and one of the easiest keyboard replacements we’ve seen. Learn more about what makes these laptops amazing, at the link below.

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                              Lenovo’s New T-Series ThinkPads Score 10/10 for Repairability

                              Repair goes mega mainstream with the launch of Lenovo’s new T-series business laptops, which earned our highest honor with a 10/10 repairability score.

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                              @iFixit But does it run Linux without jumping through HP-style hoops?

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                              • ifixit@mastodon.socialI ifixit@mastodon.social

                                A 10/10 repairability score doesn’t happen by accident. Lenovo’s newest ThinkPads prove that laptops can be powerful, durable, and actually repairable.

                                Swappable batteries, modular parts, and one of the easiest keyboard replacements we’ve seen. Learn more about what makes these laptops amazing, at the link below.

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                                Repair goes mega mainstream with the launch of Lenovo’s new T-series business laptops, which earned our highest honor with a 10/10 repairability score.

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                                @iFixit amazing! 👏🎉

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                                • ifixit@mastodon.socialI ifixit@mastodon.social

                                  A 10/10 repairability score doesn’t happen by accident. Lenovo’s newest ThinkPads prove that laptops can be powerful, durable, and actually repairable.

                                  Swappable batteries, modular parts, and one of the easiest keyboard replacements we’ve seen. Learn more about what makes these laptops amazing, at the link below.

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                                  Lenovo’s New T-Series ThinkPads Score 10/10 for Repairability

                                  Repair goes mega mainstream with the launch of Lenovo’s new T-series business laptops, which earned our highest honor with a 10/10 repairability score.

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                                  @iFixit Pretty nice given my last 5 laptops have been used thinkpads 😅
                                  Be nice if this found it's way in some form to the ultraportables like my current x12 detachable, would happily cope with a few extra mm of thickness to be able to upgrade ram

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                                    A 10/10 repairability score doesn’t happen by accident. Lenovo’s newest ThinkPads prove that laptops can be powerful, durable, and actually repairable.

                                    Swappable batteries, modular parts, and one of the easiest keyboard replacements we’ve seen. Learn more about what makes these laptops amazing, at the link below.

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                                    Lenovo’s New T-Series ThinkPads Score 10/10 for Repairability

                                    Repair goes mega mainstream with the launch of Lenovo’s new T-series business laptops, which earned our highest honor with a 10/10 repairability score.

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                                    @iFixit

                                    too bad about the ai parasite.

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                                    • ifixit@mastodon.socialI ifixit@mastodon.social

                                      A 10/10 repairability score doesn’t happen by accident. Lenovo’s newest ThinkPads prove that laptops can be powerful, durable, and actually repairable.

                                      Swappable batteries, modular parts, and one of the easiest keyboard replacements we’ve seen. Learn more about what makes these laptops amazing, at the link below.

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                                      Lenovo’s New T-Series ThinkPads Score 10/10 for Repairability

                                      Repair goes mega mainstream with the launch of Lenovo’s new T-series business laptops, which earned our highest honor with a 10/10 repairability score.

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                                      @iFixit except #Lenovo fucked up the #UltraNav so hard that it's useless..

                                      • And that was the only reason to buy them over say a @frameworkcomputer, and that sucks.

                                      • As for #repairability, Every #ThinkPad I've seen is a #downgrade to my #X230tablet (even the #Framework is!) and I've yet to find any good laptop that isn't garbage!

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                                      • ifixit@mastodon.socialI ifixit@mastodon.social

                                        A 10/10 repairability score doesn’t happen by accident. Lenovo’s newest ThinkPads prove that laptops can be powerful, durable, and actually repairable.

                                        Swappable batteries, modular parts, and one of the easiest keyboard replacements we’ve seen. Learn more about what makes these laptops amazing, at the link below.

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        Lenovo’s New T-Series ThinkPads Score 10/10 for Repairability

                                        Repair goes mega mainstream with the launch of Lenovo’s new T-series business laptops, which earned our highest honor with a 10/10 repairability score.

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                                        @iFixit

                                        Add extra praises of: Lenovo sells its laptops pre-installed with Linux, at a cheaper price....

                                        AND Lenovo's phone division, Motorola, partnered with privacy OS, GrapheneOS [ https://grapheneos.org/ ] to produce phones without Google.

                                        Android is linux with spyware and handcuffs and a trillion links to controlling boss google.

                                        Lenovo must be praised for trying to move away from enshittification. Cracks for freedom.

                                        #linux #lenovo #grapheneos #google #android

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                                        • truls46@mastodon.socialT truls46@mastodon.social

                                          @ParabenAparaten Lenovo hasn't "ditched" Windows. They are still selling their Laptops with Windows pre-installed by default.

                                          It has been possible to buy their Laptops with Linux pre-installed for quite some time already (or without an OS).

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                                          @truls46

                                          Yep, but that is super old, like since at least 10/15 years ?

                                          But super recently, I saw a linux news about Lenovo ditching Windows on laptops

                                          I will have to check my history, I'll pinpoint at it if I found again the piece of news in question

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