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  3. ahh, the HP 9133A - the largest and heaviest external 3 1/2" floppy drive ever built.

ahh, the HP 9133A - the largest and heaviest external 3 1/2" floppy drive ever built.

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  • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

    after taking out 894375037 screws, the actual drive reveals itself.

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    oh yeah, the hard drive has a controller board on top of it. and on the controller board is this super weird potted electronics module. i'll have to look into that later.

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    • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

      oh yeah, the hard drive has a controller board on top of it. and on the controller board is this super weird potted electronics module. i'll have to look into that later.

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      the floppy drive is the extremely ancient Sony OA-D31V-1. it's not the first one to come out. more like the second one.

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      • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

        the floppy drive is the extremely ancient Sony OA-D31V-1. it's not the first one to come out. more like the second one.

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        transmissive optical sensors hate dust bunnies. they'll produce false readings, so they must be cleaned!

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        • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

          transmissive optical sensors hate dust bunnies. they'll produce false readings, so they must be cleaned!

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          a single-sided 3.5" drive head is something you don't see every day. they were never that common.

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          • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

            a single-sided 3.5" drive head is something you don't see every day. they were never that common.

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            @tubetime Is that like… 360KB capacity?

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            • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

              a single-sided 3.5" drive head is something you don't see every day. they were never that common.

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              i'm taking it apart this far because the drive mech needs to be cleaned and relubricated. the old grease hardens and makes the mechanism go sticky, so you'll be able to insert a disk, but when you try to remove it, it'll tear the head right off!

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              • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

                @tubetime Is that like… 360KB capacity?

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                @mwichary worse, it is 270K and it uses 256 byte sectors. it also runs at 600 rpm!

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                • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                  a single-sided 3.5" drive head is something you don't see every day. they were never that common.

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                  @tubetime Does it take “common” 3,5” disks?
                  Or were there disks you could flip over?

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                  • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                    oh yeah, the hard drive has a controller board on top of it. and on the controller board is this super weird potted electronics module. i'll have to look into that later.

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                    @tubetime

                    it was made by an OEM that spun off xebec

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                    • bitsavers@oldbytes.spaceB bitsavers@oldbytes.space

                      @tubetime

                      it was made by an OEM that spun off xebec

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                      @bitsavers

                      Ugh, the days of separate formatters and controllers.

                      Trimpots! Nice.

                      @tubetime

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                      • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                        i'm taking it apart this far because the drive mech needs to be cleaned and relubricated. the old grease hardens and makes the mechanism go sticky, so you'll be able to insert a disk, but when you try to remove it, it'll tear the head right off!

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                        and it tests good! the weird 26-pin HP interface is natively supported by my Floppy Exerciser board (https://github.com/schlae/FloppyExerciser)

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                        • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                          ahh, the HP 9133A - the largest and heaviest external 3 1/2" floppy drive ever built. let's get it working! 🧵

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                          @tubetime That layout of the floppy and hard drive recalls the drive assembly I saw when I worked at Westinghouse, except it was a seagate ST-220 and a 1.2MB 5.25” floppy. Controller board was in a separate Intel Muktibus style chassis tho

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                          • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                            @mwichary worse, it is 270K and it uses 256 byte sectors. it also runs at 600 rpm!

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                            @tubetime You say “worse,” but all of this sounds awesome. 😀

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                            • bitsavers@oldbytes.spaceB bitsavers@oldbytes.space

                              @tubetime

                              it was made by an OEM that spun off xebec

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                              @bitsavers that's wild

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                              • furrybeta@shark.communityF furrybeta@shark.community

                                @tubetime That layout of the floppy and hard drive recalls the drive assembly I saw when I worked at Westinghouse, except it was a seagate ST-220 and a 1.2MB 5.25” floppy. Controller board was in a separate Intel Muktibus style chassis tho

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                                @FurryBeta @tubetime ST-225?

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                                • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

                                  @tubetime Is that like… 360KB capacity?

                                  tomjennings@tldr.nettime.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @mwichary

                                  Single sided single density 5 and a quarter drives were like 85kbytes i think. Even at that time it was miserable. And slow.

                                  Ibm pc single sided were originally 160k, later 180k, as they fitted another sector per track.

                                  In a couple of hours my brain will involuntarily regurgitate the FAT IDs for them.

                                  @tubetime

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                                  • ball@mastodon.bsd.cafeB ball@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                    @FurryBeta @tubetime ST-225?

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                                    @ball @tubetime Yes, that was it! 10MB, iirc (t’s been a long while)

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                                    • tomjennings@tldr.nettime.orgT tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org

                                      @mwichary

                                      Single sided single density 5 and a quarter drives were like 85kbytes i think. Even at that time it was miserable. And slow.

                                      Ibm pc single sided were originally 160k, later 180k, as they fitted another sector per track.

                                      In a couple of hours my brain will involuntarily regurgitate the FAT IDs for them.

                                      @tubetime

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                                      @tomjennings @tubetime Oh my god, FAT IDs!

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                                      • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                                        oh yeah, the hard drive has a controller board on top of it. and on the controller board is this super weird potted electronics module. i'll have to look into that later.

                                        nekoed@yiff.lifeN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @tubetime I've only ever seen those on arcade boards and cryptographic equipment....

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                                        • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                                          ahh, the HP 9133A - the largest and heaviest external 3 1/2" floppy drive ever built. let's get it working! 🧵

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                                          @tubetime

                                          Does that have HP-IB interface?

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