I woke up still pondering @girlonthenet's lamentation (I think; https://mastodon.social/@girlonthenet/116353766078817354), that while lots of people enjoy her sex blog, few people boost her toots about it.
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But this also comes against a backdrop of increasing difficulties for sex workers and other people post sex-related stuff.
Payment processors denying income streams.
Platform operators enforcing their ever more restrictive morality rules, making working harder, and requiring more admin just to keep going.
But if people take, take, take, without giving back in some meaningful way, then that is challenging even for those who create and share for fun (for apprecistion, perhaps, rather than tooting into the void), let alone those for whom this is their livelihood.
Hmm... I wonder (I told you that I was pondering!) if there is an added factor here, of the fedi demographic: of older people, perhaps especially men (don't laugh), being self-aware of engaging with younger adults posting sex-related stuff, and coming across as creepy. Perhaps?
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Hmm... I wonder (I told you that I was pondering!) if there is an added factor here, of the fedi demographic: of older people, perhaps especially men (don't laugh), being self-aware of engaging with younger adults posting sex-related stuff, and coming across as creepy. Perhaps?
I've broken my self-imposed rule of "more than three toots means it should be a blogpost", so perhaps I should do that.
Although whether anyone will share it is a different matter
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@neil @girlonthenet
As you point out there, your interests when following others; and your persona on your account don't always intersect.It's not just sex (or politics, or religion) either. I follow accounts in Japanese and in Swedish here, but I rarely to never boost posts by them. Because my persona here is primarily in English.
@jannem @neil @girlonthenet I make a point of trying extra hard to boost Swedish toots because I live in Sweden and would love to meet Swedish mastonauts in real life.
But I've been wondering if I'm guilty of not boosting @girlonthenet for exactly that reason - because it doesn't fit with my persona here.
Which is clearly nonsense. I'm single. I love sex, particularly the kind of unashamed, matter of fact, joyful sex she writes about. What could be a more ideal outcome for me than meeting other Swedish mastonauts to get our kit off together?!
I shall be more diligent in future.
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But this also comes against a backdrop of increasing difficulties for sex workers and other people post sex-related stuff.
Payment processors denying income streams.
Platform operators enforcing their ever more restrictive morality rules, making working harder, and requiring more admin just to keep going.
But if people take, take, take, without giving back in some meaningful way, then that is challenging even for those who create and share for fun (for apprecistion, perhaps, rather than tooting into the void), let alone those for whom this is their livelihood.
@neil I just went over, followed and boosted a post. While I didn’t check out her complete timeline, I understand the plight of engagement.
I have thousands of views on various platforms but few comments. Yet a simple “I like the turn of the body,” “this angle is satisfying,” or even a simple emoji to let me know what it is that garners more views than the next photo.
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I woke up still pondering @girlonthenet's lamentation (I think; https://mastodon.social/@girlonthenet/116353766078817354), that while lots of people enjoy her sex blog, few people boost her toots about it.
I follow and chat with quite a lot of sex positive / sex-related people here, and many have expressed similar sentiments. It must be demoralising.
I don't have good ideas here, but it would be such a shame to lose this wonderful diverse friendly bunch of creative people.
@neil I totally get it and fwiw I think you do an excellent balance- sharing the less overtly porny ones that aren’t jarring from your work/legal perspective etc.
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@neil I totally get it and fwiw I think you do an excellent balance- sharing the less overtly porny ones that aren’t jarring from your work/legal perspective etc.
@girlonthenet But that's not good enough to keep you in the Rolls Royces and Learjets that your lifestyle demands!
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But this also comes against a backdrop of increasing difficulties for sex workers and other people post sex-related stuff.
Payment processors denying income streams.
Platform operators enforcing their ever more restrictive morality rules, making working harder, and requiring more admin just to keep going.
But if people take, take, take, without giving back in some meaningful way, then that is challenging even for those who create and share for fun (for apprecistion, perhaps, rather than tooting into the void), let alone those for whom this is their livelihood.
@neil "challenging even for those who create and share for fun"
When I started blogging, I had hopes of giving up my day job and earning from it. But like you say, times are getting tougher for all of us. I'm content to share for fun.
Creating my Mastodon account massively helped, boosts are the best way to spread the word. It's networking, and I do want to reach more people.
It hurts to know fellow bloggers are struggling to manage, having to find alternative means to survive and continue.
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R relay@relay.publicsquare.global shared this topic
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But this also comes against a backdrop of increasing difficulties for sex workers and other people post sex-related stuff.
Payment processors denying income streams.
Platform operators enforcing their ever more restrictive morality rules, making working harder, and requiring more admin just to keep going.
But if people take, take, take, without giving back in some meaningful way, then that is challenging even for those who create and share for fun (for apprecistion, perhaps, rather than tooting into the void), let alone those for whom this is their livelihood.
@neil one of many reasons why I boost so much art/smut here
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I woke up still pondering @girlonthenet's lamentation (I think; https://mastodon.social/@girlonthenet/116353766078817354), that while lots of people enjoy her sex blog, few people boost her toots about it.
I follow and chat with quite a lot of sex positive / sex-related people here, and many have expressed similar sentiments. It must be demoralising.
I don't have good ideas here, but it would be such a shame to lose this wonderful diverse friendly bunch of creative people.
@neil I would like to reblog this post, but I feel like boosting a post about how people will boost anything except porn would just contribute to the problem, so I boosted the first piece of porn I saw in my feed instead.
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Hmm... I wonder (I told you that I was pondering!) if there is an added factor here, of the fedi demographic: of older people, perhaps especially men (don't laugh), being self-aware of engaging with younger adults posting sex-related stuff, and coming across as creepy. Perhaps?
@neil I’m an employer. I’m reasonably sure none of my employees follow me, but the existence of my social media is not a secret.
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I've broken my self-imposed rule of "more than three toots means it should be a blogpost", so perhaps I should do that.
Although whether anyone will share it is a different matter
If you have got this far, perhaps you would welcome some suggestions for fedizens who I follow, who post sex-related stuff.
@girlonthenet: the queen of text and audio smut, with multiple books under her belt too.
@mindpersephone: short form text, often sci-fi and genderqueer.
@JenJen: beautiful hand drawn smut, interspersed with rants about Linux.
@alice: more lockpicking than smut, but smut is there, and especially #AltAfterDark.
Newer to me:
@Jaimieserotica: a relatively new blogger, with a mix of fiction and non-fiction (I think!)
@GoingDownWithSundial: another relatively new smut blogger, also touching on neurodiversity
(And, look, I apologise in advance for the people who I will inevitably omit by accident; it is not personal, I am simply fallible. I have not included people who post nudes because that doesn't necessarily mean "sexual".
By all means add your own suggestions / your own blog / self-promotion.)
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Hmm... I wonder (I told you that I was pondering!) if there is an added factor here, of the fedi demographic: of older people, perhaps especially men (don't laugh), being self-aware of engaging with younger adults posting sex-related stuff, and coming across as creepy. Perhaps?
@neil Bingo
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If you have got this far, perhaps you would welcome some suggestions for fedizens who I follow, who post sex-related stuff.
@girlonthenet: the queen of text and audio smut, with multiple books under her belt too.
@mindpersephone: short form text, often sci-fi and genderqueer.
@JenJen: beautiful hand drawn smut, interspersed with rants about Linux.
@alice: more lockpicking than smut, but smut is there, and especially #AltAfterDark.
Newer to me:
@Jaimieserotica: a relatively new blogger, with a mix of fiction and non-fiction (I think!)
@GoingDownWithSundial: another relatively new smut blogger, also touching on neurodiversity
(And, look, I apologise in advance for the people who I will inevitably omit by accident; it is not personal, I am simply fallible. I have not included people who post nudes because that doesn't necessarily mean "sexual".
By all means add your own suggestions / your own blog / self-promotion.)
@neil @girlonthenet @mindpersephone @JenJen @alice @Jaimieserotica
@nymphostimtoy also new on the scene. Brilliant, rawly emotional crazy hot stuff.
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I suspect that it comes down to a mix of:
* stigma about sex as pleasure / being embarrassed about what others here might think
* concerns relating to professional expectations and obligations
* sex as being in the sphere of one's private life
I can understand each of these, and why they might lead to a "like" rather than a "boost".
None of them inhibit paying or tipping someone, as a thank you for their work though, which is another way of being supportive.
@neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk I know for me there's a combination of some of my friends being sex-repulsed ace, so I'd need to definitely make sure things are CWed appropriately; but this also causes me to second-guess a lot and causes me extra worry in regards to my own issues, which revolve around transfemme nervousness about showing that I have any sexuality at all, because the mere idea of a transfemme having any sexuality is sometimes viewed as predatory.
And with my moral scrupulosity OCD running around with scissors in my head, anything that makes me feel like others might think I'm predatory then raises the question, what if I am? -
@neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk I know for me there's a combination of some of my friends being sex-repulsed ace, so I'd need to definitely make sure things are CWed appropriately; but this also causes me to second-guess a lot and causes me extra worry in regards to my own issues, which revolve around transfemme nervousness about showing that I have any sexuality at all, because the mere idea of a transfemme having any sexuality is sometimes viewed as predatory.
And with my moral scrupulosity OCD running around with scissors in my head, anything that makes me feel like others might think I'm predatory then raises the question, what if I am?@neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk Fun fact, I never would assume anything like this of anyone ELSE. This is just me, in my head, judging me. Other transfemmes who express their sexuality are AWESOME and AMAZING and GOALS.
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@neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk I know for me there's a combination of some of my friends being sex-repulsed ace, so I'd need to definitely make sure things are CWed appropriately; but this also causes me to second-guess a lot and causes me extra worry in regards to my own issues, which revolve around transfemme nervousness about showing that I have any sexuality at all, because the mere idea of a transfemme having any sexuality is sometimes viewed as predatory.
And with my moral scrupulosity OCD running around with scissors in my head, anything that makes me feel like others might think I'm predatory then raises the question, what if I am?> make sure things are CWed appropriately
Yes!
> transfemme nervousness about showing that I have any sexuality at all, because the mere idea of a transfemme having any sexuality is sometimes viewed as predatory
I can understand that, but it is horrible to hear, that you cannot just be safe being you
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> make sure things are CWed appropriately
Yes!
> transfemme nervousness about showing that I have any sexuality at all, because the mere idea of a transfemme having any sexuality is sometimes viewed as predatory
I can understand that, but it is horrible to hear, that you cannot just be safe being you
@neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk In practice, the people who hold those opinions of trans women aren't people worth listening to, and the loss of safety is something that should be pushed back against. As an old friend recently asked me,
Do you know the expression "allow yourself to take up space"
And I do. But I'm not much good at it."Closer!" he grumbled, squinting through the dark. "Come closer. I want to see you."
"Light a light, then." said Molly Grue. The calmness of her own voice frightened her more than the fury of the old wizard had. It is easy to be brave for her sake, she thought, but if I begin being brave on my own account, where will it end? -
If you have got this far, perhaps you would welcome some suggestions for fedizens who I follow, who post sex-related stuff.
@girlonthenet: the queen of text and audio smut, with multiple books under her belt too.
@mindpersephone: short form text, often sci-fi and genderqueer.
@JenJen: beautiful hand drawn smut, interspersed with rants about Linux.
@alice: more lockpicking than smut, but smut is there, and especially #AltAfterDark.
Newer to me:
@Jaimieserotica: a relatively new blogger, with a mix of fiction and non-fiction (I think!)
@GoingDownWithSundial: another relatively new smut blogger, also touching on neurodiversity
(And, look, I apologise in advance for the people who I will inevitably omit by accident; it is not personal, I am simply fallible. I have not included people who post nudes because that doesn't necessarily mean "sexual".
By all means add your own suggestions / your own blog / self-promotion.)
@neil @girlonthenet @JenJen @alice @Jaimieserotica @GoingDownWithSundial thank you Neil!
And welcome to the new folk following. Don't worry, I won't be offended if you see a few of my posts and decide I'm not for you and unfollow. I'm not everyones cup of tea. -
I woke up still pondering @girlonthenet's lamentation (I think; https://mastodon.social/@girlonthenet/116353766078817354), that while lots of people enjoy her sex blog, few people boost her toots about it.
I follow and chat with quite a lot of sex positive / sex-related people here, and many have expressed similar sentiments. It must be demoralising.
I don't have good ideas here, but it would be such a shame to lose this wonderful diverse friendly bunch of creative people.
@neil @girlonthenet I want to highlight some experience in exploring fedi and what I settled on.
I agree with your points that sex/porn isn't shared as much by vocal people. Still I got into Misskey.io in search of fan art and local culture of Japanese is vastly different than local culture of other fedi places. Misskey.io follow local Japanese laws so you can guess what is allowed where it's shunned elsewhere, but there a lot of sfw/nsfw art (I have 0 knowledge in Japanese so no clue about written stuff). So really it feels like people are really reserved to share someone else nsfw work because... Some fedi instances not allow that.
I saw my account marked as sensible, so my posts and boosts aren't showing up for many people. What I did was sharing nsfw fan art for game I invested in because... There barely any talk on instances I settled in. So afterwards I just have my Misskey.io as share fan art be it sfw/nsfw while my main is for sharing opinions or trying to promote few stuff I do.So biggest problem my guess is stigma against sex and further muting by fedi instances administration accounts that are both nsfw or boosts nsfw. You only immune to muting if people follow you, but if they don't. Then you will never appear in the discovery.
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@neil @girlonthenet I want to highlight some experience in exploring fedi and what I settled on.
I agree with your points that sex/porn isn't shared as much by vocal people. Still I got into Misskey.io in search of fan art and local culture of Japanese is vastly different than local culture of other fedi places. Misskey.io follow local Japanese laws so you can guess what is allowed where it's shunned elsewhere, but there a lot of sfw/nsfw art (I have 0 knowledge in Japanese so no clue about written stuff). So really it feels like people are really reserved to share someone else nsfw work because... Some fedi instances not allow that.
I saw my account marked as sensible, so my posts and boosts aren't showing up for many people. What I did was sharing nsfw fan art for game I invested in because... There barely any talk on instances I settled in. So afterwards I just have my Misskey.io as share fan art be it sfw/nsfw while my main is for sharing opinions or trying to promote few stuff I do.So biggest problem my guess is stigma against sex and further muting by fedi instances administration accounts that are both nsfw or boosts nsfw. You only immune to muting if people follow you, but if they don't. Then you will never appear in the discovery.
