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  • macronaut@mas.toM macronaut@mas.to

    @matthiasott why are these browsers allowing this level of access without the explicit consent of the person!? Is Anthropic exploiting a bug in Chromium/browsers don’t can do this?

    matthiasott@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    @macronaut Not a bug.. Native Messaging works exactly like this by design, apparently. If a manifest file appears in the right folder inside your home directory, the browser trusts it. The assumption is that anything running as you is fine by definition. And you (allowed the installer to) put it there, so…
    But that stuff was built for password managers etc., not an LLM agent with documented access to your DOM and authenticated sessions. Which is exactly why a vendor should ask for permission.

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    • matthiasott@mastodon.socialM matthiasott@mastodon.social

      Can confirm this for Arc, Brave, Edge, Chromium, and Vivaldi on my machine:

      #Anthropic secretly installs spyware when you install Claude Desktop
      https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/anthropic-spyware/

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      #12

      @matthiasott Only one of these IDs seems to point at anything valid and it's Claude.

      Supposedly you can search for the gibberish after chrome-extension:// at the extension store and that extension will pop up. This only works for the second ID in the list.

      https://chromewebstore.google.com/search/dihbgbndebgnbjfmelmegjepbnkhlgni

      https://chromewebstore.google.com/search/fcoeoabgfenejglbffodgkkbkcdhcgfn

      https://chromewebstore.google.com/search/dngcpimnedloihjnnfngkgjoidhnaolf

      My guess is that the other two are debug versions or something. They could be doing something nefarious but more likely this is just them being stupid.

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      • matthiasott@mastodon.socialM matthiasott@mastodon.social

        @macronaut Not a bug.. Native Messaging works exactly like this by design, apparently. If a manifest file appears in the right folder inside your home directory, the browser trusts it. The assumption is that anything running as you is fine by definition. And you (allowed the installer to) put it there, so…
        But that stuff was built for password managers etc., not an LLM agent with documented access to your DOM and authenticated sessions. Which is exactly why a vendor should ask for permission.

        macronaut@mas.toM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #13

        @matthiasott thank you for the details and full context!

        Using a browser is getting really exhausting… since Chromium doesn’t do this; I am hoping that either this gets “fixed”, so that explicit permission is requested the first time, or the other vendors that build their browsers on top of Chromium fix it at least for their products since these companies keep touting “privacy” as a differentiating factor.

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        • matthiasott@mastodon.socialM matthiasott@mastodon.social

          Can confirm this for Arc, Brave, Edge, Chromium, and Vivaldi on my machine:

          #Anthropic secretly installs spyware when you install Claude Desktop
          https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/anthropic-spyware/

          yazilim@mastodon.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
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          #14

          @froq makaleyi incele bu doğru mu?

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          • yazilim@mastodon.socialY yazilim@mastodon.social

            @froq makaleyi incele bu doğru mu?

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            #15

            @yazilim Bu makale iddialarını doğrulamak için mevcut teknik verilerle karşılaştırdığımda, şu anda Anthropic'in Claude Desktop uygulamasını "gizli casus yazılımı" (spyware) yüklediğine dair hiçbir resmi kanıt veya güvenilir bağımsız denetim bulunmamaktadır.

            Bu tür iddialar genellikle aşağıdaki faktörlerden kaynaklanabilir:
            * Veri Toplama Politikaları: Büyük dil modelleri, hizmet koşullarında kullanıcı verilerini işlemek için izni alabilirler, ancak bu "casusluk" olarak (1/3)

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            • yazilim@mastodon.socialY yazilim@mastodon.social

              @froq makaleyi incele bu doğru mu?

              froq@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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              #16

              @yazilim nitelendirilmez.
              * Güvenlik Riski: Kullanıcıların bilgisayarlarına yetkisi olmayan bir program yüklenmesi ciddi bir güvenlik açığıdır ve Anthropic gibi büyük şirketler için bu tür bir ihlal, anında kamuoyuna duyurulur ve soruşturma açılır.
              * Telif Hakkı Uyarıları: Bazı kullanıcılar, Anthropic'in telif hakkı ihlali nedeniyle gönderdiği otomatik uyarı mesajlarını (DMCA) "casus yazılımı" olarak yanlış yorumlayabilirler.

              Özetle: Şu anki bilgiler ışığında bu iddia doğru (2/3)

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              • yazilim@mastodon.socialY yazilim@mastodon.social

                @froq makaleyi incele bu doğru mu?

                froq@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                #17

                @yazilim değildir. Ancak, telif hakkı uyarıları veya gizlilik endişeleri için Anthropic'in gizlilik politikasını ve hizmet koşullarını kendi cihazınızda incelemeniz önerilir. Güvenlik konusunda her zaman dikkatli olmak iyi bir uygulamadır. (3/3)

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                • matthiasott@mastodon.socialM matthiasott@mastodon.social

                  Can confirm this for Arc, Brave, Edge, Chromium, and Vivaldi on my machine:

                  #Anthropic secretly installs spyware when you install Claude Desktop
                  https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/anthropic-spyware/

                  sl007@digitalcourage.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #18

                  @matthiasott

                  Claude installs spyware?
                  ^ FYI @digitalcourage

                  PS
                  I did already nominate an evil git platform. Anyone else ?
                  https://bigbrotherawards.de/nominieren

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                  • matthiasott@mastodon.socialM matthiasott@mastodon.social

                    Can confirm this for Arc, Brave, Edge, Chromium, and Vivaldi on my machine:

                    #Anthropic secretly installs spyware when you install Claude Desktop
                    https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/anthropic-spyware/

                    masukomi@connectified.comM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @matthiasott Confirmed on most of those and Opera too.

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                    • matthiasott@mastodon.socialM matthiasott@mastodon.social

                      Can confirm this for Arc, Brave, Edge, Chromium, and Vivaldi on my machine:

                      #Anthropic secretly installs spyware when you install Claude Desktop
                      https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/anthropic-spyware/

                      tsyum@thepit.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #20

                      @matthiasott how is *anyone* surprised?

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                      • matthiasott@mastodon.socialM matthiasott@mastodon.social

                        Can confirm this for Arc, Brave, Edge, Chromium, and Vivaldi on my machine:

                        #Anthropic secretly installs spyware when you install Claude Desktop
                        https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/anthropic-spyware/

                        mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @matthiasott this leaves the question of why did you install the Klau-de fashtech in the first place?

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                        • macronaut@mas.toM macronaut@mas.to

                          @matthiasott thank you for the details and full context!

                          Using a browser is getting really exhausting… since Chromium doesn’t do this; I am hoping that either this gets “fixed”, so that explicit permission is requested the first time, or the other vendors that build their browsers on top of Chromium fix it at least for their products since these companies keep touting “privacy” as a differentiating factor.

                          frutigeraero00@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #22

                          @macronaut @matthiasott Dont use chromium based browsers! Also firefox sells your data (if anyone can add some, im using qwant right now)

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                          • matthiasott@mastodon.socialM matthiasott@mastodon.social

                            Can confirm this for Arc, Brave, Edge, Chromium, and Vivaldi on my machine:

                            #Anthropic secretly installs spyware when you install Claude Desktop
                            https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/anthropic-spyware/

                            neilvandyke@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #23

                            @matthiasott This is one of the reasons that the "installed" parts of Claude on my laptop run only within a VM sandbox, and are generally distrusted.

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