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Call to action to cis people: be assholes anytime you get asked for your sex assigned at birth.

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  • star@fed.amazonawaws.comS star@fed.amazonawaws.com
    @Willow @astraluma hi, could you perhaps add a cw to this?
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    @star @Willow What content warning would be appropriate?

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    • zumbador@mefi.socialZ zumbador@mefi.social

      @Willow... and if you don't feel quite ready to do this yet, warm up to it by noticing how often you're asked your sex assigned at birth, and how seldom it is relevant. Seriously. Think about it. Then start making a noise. "why do you need to know!?"

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      @Zumbador @Willow It's only relevant in certain medical contexts where the anatomy and hormone balance involved is actually necessary data, yes? Surgeries, medications that might interact with those systems, etc?

      zumbador@mefi.socialZ dalias@hachyderm.ioD alecska@mastodon.socialA raphaelmorgan@disabled.socialR iju@mastodon.socialI 6 Replies Last reply
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      • x0@dragonscave.spaceX x0@dragonscave.space

        @Zumbador @Willow It's only relevant in certain medical contexts where the anatomy and hormone balance involved is actually necessary data, yes? Surgeries, medications that might interact with those systems, etc?

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        @x0 @Willow exactly

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        • x0@dragonscave.spaceX x0@dragonscave.space

          @Zumbador @Willow It's only relevant in certain medical contexts where the anatomy and hormone balance involved is actually necessary data, yes? Surgeries, medications that might interact with those systems, etc?

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          @x0 @Zumbador @Willow In medical context it's used to harass anyone whose body they think might be capable of pregnancy, subject them to humiliating tests, and deny them care without proof it won't harm a theoretical nonexistent person.

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          • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

            @x0 @Zumbador @Willow In medical context it's used to harass anyone whose body they think might be capable of pregnancy, subject them to humiliating tests, and deny them care without proof it won't harm a theoretical nonexistent person.

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            @dalias @Zumbador @Willow And also to deny what they say as being real, yes? Hmmm.

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            • willow@chaosfem.twW willow@chaosfem.tw

              Call to action to cis people: be assholes anytime you get asked for your sex assigned at birth. Write letters, complain to staff, refuse to answer. Make it impossible to collect sex assigned at birth. Be really offended that anyone would ask you. Make enough noise that if trans people want to quietly not answer or give whatever answer feels correct to them, no one will notice.

              #Boost #CallToAction

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              @Willow I'm gonna go with my "sex" at conception.

              "All humans begin life in the womb as females. If no Y chromosome is present in the foetus, then the embryo will continue to develop as and be born as a female"

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              Why do men have nipples? | Notes and Queries | guardian.co.uk

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              • x0@dragonscave.spaceX x0@dragonscave.space

                @dalias @Zumbador @Willow And also to deny what they say as being real, yes? Hmmm.

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                @x0 @Zumbador @Willow I would imagine that's done more on perceived gender than SAAB from your chart.

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                • x0@dragonscave.spaceX x0@dragonscave.space

                  @Zumbador @Willow It's only relevant in certain medical contexts where the anatomy and hormone balance involved is actually necessary data, yes? Surgeries, medications that might interact with those systems, etc?

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                  @x0 @Zumbador @Willow and in these very specific cases, they should ask about anatomy/organs instead, bc for example not all cis women have uterus/ovaries.

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                  • alecska@mastodon.socialA alecska@mastodon.social

                    @x0 @Zumbador @Willow and in these very specific cases, they should ask about anatomy/organs instead, bc for example not all cis women have uterus/ovaries.

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                    @alecska @Zumbador @Willow Yep. Or in the case of things involving hormones that need to be supplement or controlled in some manner, HRT whether it's trans or not, I guess their own panels tell them what they need to know.

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                    • willow@chaosfem.twW willow@chaosfem.tw

                      Call to action to cis people: be assholes anytime you get asked for your sex assigned at birth. Write letters, complain to staff, refuse to answer. Make it impossible to collect sex assigned at birth. Be really offended that anyone would ask you. Make enough noise that if trans people want to quietly not answer or give whatever answer feels correct to them, no one will notice.

                      #Boost #CallToAction

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                      #13

                      @Willow let's normalize loudly asking "and what fucking business is that of YOURS?" more often.

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                      • willow@chaosfem.twW willow@chaosfem.tw

                        Call to action to cis people: be assholes anytime you get asked for your sex assigned at birth. Write letters, complain to staff, refuse to answer. Make it impossible to collect sex assigned at birth. Be really offended that anyone would ask you. Make enough noise that if trans people want to quietly not answer or give whatever answer feels correct to them, no one will notice.

                        #Boost #CallToAction

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                        @Willow I have to tell you, I became militant about this last year. I'm old. I see a LOT of medical people, all kinds. Every single time I'm asked that, and I'm asked that in person each time because I refuse to fill it out and when I can't finish the electronic registration because I haven't completed that question they HAVE TO ASK ME IN PERSON. They won't do it. And they think about why. and that's what I can do.

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                        • willow@chaosfem.twW willow@chaosfem.tw

                          Call to action to cis people: be assholes anytime you get asked for your sex assigned at birth. Write letters, complain to staff, refuse to answer. Make it impossible to collect sex assigned at birth. Be really offended that anyone would ask you. Make enough noise that if trans people want to quietly not answer or give whatever answer feels correct to them, no one will notice.

                          #Boost #CallToAction

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                          @Willow

                          I will throw sand in the gears of marginalization, by feigning ignorance and incompetence, and eventually I will be indignant that they feel the need to check what's in my pants. As a straight white Christian with English as his first language, I am entitled to the Right of Karen: "Who is your supervisor?"

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                          • willow@chaosfem.twW willow@chaosfem.tw

                            Call to action to cis people: be assholes anytime you get asked for your sex assigned at birth. Write letters, complain to staff, refuse to answer. Make it impossible to collect sex assigned at birth. Be really offended that anyone would ask you. Make enough noise that if trans people want to quietly not answer or give whatever answer feels correct to them, no one will notice.

                            #Boost #CallToAction

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                            @Willow If I am ever asked about sex I always say yes because it is like pizza, even if it's bad it's still pretty good

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                            • willow@chaosfem.twW willow@chaosfem.tw

                              Call to action to cis people: be assholes anytime you get asked for your sex assigned at birth. Write letters, complain to staff, refuse to answer. Make it impossible to collect sex assigned at birth. Be really offended that anyone would ask you. Make enough noise that if trans people want to quietly not answer or give whatever answer feels correct to them, no one will notice.

                              #Boost #CallToAction

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                              @Willow Exactly, and go further. Not just sex or gender. Anything. Everything. want to know my age? Location? Nationality? No. Why do you need to know? I'm not telling you that.

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                              • willow@chaosfem.twW willow@chaosfem.tw

                                Call to action to cis people: be assholes anytime you get asked for your sex assigned at birth. Write letters, complain to staff, refuse to answer. Make it impossible to collect sex assigned at birth. Be really offended that anyone would ask you. Make enough noise that if trans people want to quietly not answer or give whatever answer feels correct to them, no one will notice.

                                #Boost #CallToAction

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                                @Willow *cracks knuckles* all of my training has prepared me for this moment (im not technically cis but the average bigot cant tell that just from looking at me)

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                                • willow@chaosfem.twW willow@chaosfem.tw

                                  Call to action to cis people: be assholes anytime you get asked for your sex assigned at birth. Write letters, complain to staff, refuse to answer. Make it impossible to collect sex assigned at birth. Be really offended that anyone would ask you. Make enough noise that if trans people want to quietly not answer or give whatever answer feels correct to them, no one will notice.

                                  #Boost #CallToAction

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                                  @Willow I will take great delight in communicating my refusal to answer this question. I will follow up my refusal with an extensive stream of questions of my own regarding what they think they are doing asking such a question. I'm mildly intelligent so I figure I can make the conversation last long enough to make the questioner regret the life choices that brought them to this point.

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                                  • willow@chaosfem.twW willow@chaosfem.tw

                                    Call to action to cis people: be assholes anytime you get asked for your sex assigned at birth. Write letters, complain to staff, refuse to answer. Make it impossible to collect sex assigned at birth. Be really offended that anyone would ask you. Make enough noise that if trans people want to quietly not answer or give whatever answer feels correct to them, no one will notice.

                                    #Boost #CallToAction

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                                    @Willow @Richboy50

                                    “What’s my gender? What are you, a narc?”

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                                    • willow@chaosfem.twW willow@chaosfem.tw

                                      Call to action to cis people: be assholes anytime you get asked for your sex assigned at birth. Write letters, complain to staff, refuse to answer. Make it impossible to collect sex assigned at birth. Be really offended that anyone would ask you. Make enough noise that if trans people want to quietly not answer or give whatever answer feels correct to them, no one will notice.

                                      #Boost #CallToAction

                                      geos@toot.communityG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @Willow
                                      "Honestly, my earliest memory is from when I was 3 years old . . . can't help you."

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                                      • willow@chaosfem.twW willow@chaosfem.tw

                                        Call to action to cis people: be assholes anytime you get asked for your sex assigned at birth. Write letters, complain to staff, refuse to answer. Make it impossible to collect sex assigned at birth. Be really offended that anyone would ask you. Make enough noise that if trans people want to quietly not answer or give whatever answer feels correct to them, no one will notice.

                                        #Boost #CallToAction

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                                        @Willow

                                        Got it!

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                                        • willow@chaosfem.twW willow@chaosfem.tw

                                          Call to action to cis people: be assholes anytime you get asked for your sex assigned at birth. Write letters, complain to staff, refuse to answer. Make it impossible to collect sex assigned at birth. Be really offended that anyone would ask you. Make enough noise that if trans people want to quietly not answer or give whatever answer feels correct to them, no one will notice.

                                          #Boost #CallToAction

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                                          @Willow That's a *great* idea. Will commence immediately.

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