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  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

    @munin so like, i have 601 files being downloaded (almost finished at the moment) in this directory, each of which is 5120 MiB in size

    > 5120 MiB * 601 -> MiB
    3077120 mebibyte (information)
    > 5120 MiB * 601 -> MB
    approx. 3226594.1 megabyte (information)

    only one of these numbers makes sense in light of the reported total.

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    @munin nope, the total now exceeds both numbers. what is going on

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      @whitequark this is horrible. Can someone more motivated than me confirm this from ls’s source code?

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      • jlargentaye@mas.toJ jlargentaye@mas.to

        @whitequark this is horrible. Can someone more motivated than me confirm this from ls’s source code?

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        @jlargentaye i think it's doing something else entirely that inflates the total and i don't know what that is

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        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

          the SI people are right and everybody doing it otherwise is wrong; you should never use the "K", "M", etc unit prefixes to mean factor of 1024. sure, with small enough sizes you can usually ignore it. but scale it up and you quickly run into trouble

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          @whitequark feels like if one is to consider themselves a computer "scientist" this basic detail about correct units is not optional

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          • kkremitzki@mastodon.socialK kkremitzki@mastodon.social

            @whitequark feels like if one is to consider themselves a computer "scientist" this basic detail about correct units is not optional

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            @kkremitzki you would hope so but

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            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

              @munin nope, the total now exceeds both numbers. what is going on

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              @whitequark

              sentences I'd never expected to say: what version of ls do you have? I'm curious to see if it's replicable on any of the systems I have

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              • munin@infosec.exchangeM munin@infosec.exchange

                @whitequark

                sentences I'd never expected to say: what version of ls do you have? I'm curious to see if it's replicable on any of the systems I have

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                @munin gnu coreutils

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                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                  @munin gnu coreutils

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                  @munin try using xfs and just doing dd if=/dev/zero of=file0000 bs=1M count=5120 to replicate what i'm having

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                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                    @kkremitzki you would hope so but

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                    @whitequark @kkremitzki

                    No, incorrect. Hail Eris and pass the misused units.

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                    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                      the SI people are right and everybody doing it otherwise is wrong; you should never use the "K", "M", etc unit prefixes to mean factor of 1024. sure, with small enough sizes you can usually ignore it. but scale it up and you quickly run into trouble

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                      @whitequark K means Kelvin and MB means megabel 😛

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                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                        the SI people are right and everybody doing it otherwise is wrong; you should never use the "K", "M", etc unit prefixes to mean factor of 1024. sure, with small enough sizes you can usually ignore it. but scale it up and you quickly run into trouble

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                        @whitequark Sadly, my favourite example of this sort of confusion is too antiquated for most people now.

                        Is a 1.44M floppy disk using MB or MiB?

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