Oomfies, what's more gay?
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@nina_kali_nina I did not expect this. Does that mean it's straight, or is everyone gay?
@pawv I think it just means they're almost equally queer
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@abmurrow I have an OpenBSD on my $50 Chromebook and it's pretty nice. But I'm a bit conflicted on their apolitical-ness stance. NetBSD in this aspect seems to be far more political
@nina_kali_nina Yeah, I got that vibe too. OpenBSD is just out there doing their own thing it seems. Mostly feels like the focus is security, keeping X alive, and OpenSSH. Not bad aims, but not entirely dialed in either. It does have a community of users who, at least when I was dipping my toes into the water, who seemed to get it. But they're a lot of opsec folks, it's their job and they think about it a lot.
Meanwhile NetBSD feels like a bunch of deranged internet nuts trying to cram their OS into every known tool in existence. Much more my speed in some ways, but less desktop support. Not a dealbreaker, just needs more focus time.
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Oomfies, what's more gay? The winner is likely going to be my desktop OS. Others ideas are welcome, as long as it's fairly usable, open source and not Linux
@nina_kali_nina @nuttx, kolibrios, @redox - plenty of choices to try after BSD flavors
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@nina_kali_nina OpenBSD is Canadian
@nina_kali_nina Oh, and every release has a hilarious theme song
I will admit I listened to them unironically when I was in high school, despite not ever having used BSD. I was a big fan of Systemagic and "E-Railed (OpenBSD Mix)"
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@nina_kali_nina @nuttx, kolibrios, @redox - plenty of choices to try after BSD flavors
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@WiteWulf they still don't have an anti-AI statement.
@nina_kali_nina @WiteWulf Haiku is apparently, very anti-slop.
They recently just made a change on their forum which moves slops to the same category as "Proprietary" and outright banning slop-generated content on their forum.
Changes to forum rules & categories for LLM-generated content
Following the recent discussions around LLM-generated content (so-called “AI”), the forum rules and categories have been amended. Changes to the forum guidelines New paragraph under the “Post Only Your Own Stuff” sectio…
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@nina_kali_nina i mean, i am hardly the expert, but you seem to have picked like the two least gay options.
@drj @nina_kali_nina I don't know how to grade this (is it the SysV/BSD split?), but I'd bet good money on Solaris being less gay, just by being owned by Oracle.
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@joe it might, but I fear for safety/security etc etc. It's a primary machine after all
@nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt @joe@f.duriansoftware.com i would not really use either on a primary machine. i've tried to daily drive both at a more rebellious point in my life
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@drj @nina_kali_nina I don't know how to grade this (is it the SysV/BSD split?), but I'd bet good money on Solaris being less gay, just by being owned by Oracle.
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@pawv I think it just means they're almost equally queer
@nina_kali_nina EVERYONE IS GAY!
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@nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt @joe@f.duriansoftware.com i would not really use either on a primary machine. i've tried to daily drive both at a more rebellious point in my life
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@nina_kali_nina can't speak firsthand to its gayness, but Haiku seems like it might fit your other criteria
@joe @nina_kali_nina No love for GNU/Hurd?
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@nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt @joe@f.duriansoftware.com
Security is one factor. OpenBSD prides itself on it, but I wouldn't say it's particularly ahead of Linux overall in a practical, well-configured scenario. NetBSD is considerably less audited, and a C3 talk about BSD security was... scathing on it.
Software availability is another. Spent a non-trivial amount of time getting Minecraft to run on NetBSD. In general, more things will break, and there will be fewer documented fixes - unless you only use FOSS, and even then.
I recall OpenBSD having some performance issues at the time when running IntelliJ, which I think were fixable with enough tuning but I never got that far.
But I welcome trying it - it was certainly a valuable and fun experience until I realized more things work out of the box on Linux. -
@joe @nina_kali_nina No love for GNU/Hurd?
@slava @nina_kali_nina illumOS might fit the bill too. but it sounds like the devs are pretty LLM-happy these days
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@nina_kali_nina can't speak firsthand to its gayness, but Haiku seems like it might fit your other criteria
@joe @nina_kali_nina haiku is absolutely a queer operating system, there was even a post about it https://web.archive.org/web/20160324131651/https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/nielx/2010-04-11_haiku_has_no_future
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Oomfies, what's more gay? The winner is likely going to be my desktop OS. Others ideas are welcome, as long as it's fairly usable, open source and not Linux
@nina_kali_nina trans rights. :3
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@nina_kali_nina trans rights. :3
@netbsd @nina_kali_nina Absolutely based. That's a follow and a boost upwards in the list of OSes I like.
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@netbsd @nina_kali_nina Absolutely based. That's a follow and a boost upwards in the list of OSes I like.
@mrmasterkeyboard @nina_kali_nina Don't know if I'd go as far as calling it based, it's a fairly basic stance. We have trans developers. They shouldn't suffer.
