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So I recently discovered that a shitpost I made about job titles on the company network is now evidence in a court case.

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  • tarkasteve@hachyderm.ioT tarkasteve@hachyderm.io

    So I recently discovered that a shitpost I made about job titles on the company network is now evidence in a court case. This may be my finest hour.

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    @tarkasteve I once wrote an internal message about a company we were involved in a lawsuit with. (The company I worked for was a multi-billion-dollar entertainment company so they were pretty much always involved in at least one lawsuit.) The message wasn't false or even particularly controversial, but wasn't flattering.

    An exec PMed me and said "is that something you would like to see in a court filing?", to which my reply was "in my defense, that would be awesome" before relenting and removing the post.

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    • tubemeister@mstdn.socialT tubemeister@mstdn.social

      @ingram @tarkasteve I’ll bet that’s not meant to be “Senior Porn Engineer”, but I can’t figure out what it should be.

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      @Tubemeister @ingram @tarkasteve

      At my company, it's Principal.

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      • tubemeister@mstdn.socialT tubemeister@mstdn.social

        @ingram @tarkasteve I’ll bet that’s not meant to be “Senior Porn Engineer”, but I can’t figure out what it should be.

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        @Tubemeister @ingram @tarkasteve "Principal". Other completely meaningless terms I've seen sprinkled into job titles like unbelievably pretentious confetti are "staff" and "distinguished".

        Personally, if anyone foolishly gives me authority over job titles, I'm making "extremely senior engineer"s.

        tubemeister@mstdn.socialT noratrieb@hachyderm.ioN ingram@mastodon.socialI tarkasteve@hachyderm.ioT 4 Replies Last reply
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        • W whbboyd@infosec.exchange

          @Tubemeister @ingram @tarkasteve "Principal". Other completely meaningless terms I've seen sprinkled into job titles like unbelievably pretentious confetti are "staff" and "distinguished".

          Personally, if anyone foolishly gives me authority over job titles, I'm making "extremely senior engineer"s.

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          @whbboyd @ingram @tarkasteve I’ve been going by “General Specialist” for a while. 😉

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          • tarkasteve@hachyderm.ioT tarkasteve@hachyderm.io

            So I recently discovered that a shitpost I made about job titles on the company network is now evidence in a court case. This may be my finest hour.

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            @tarkasteve@hachyderm.io When your joke is so good even the Judge wants to see it /jk

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            • tarkasteve@hachyderm.ioT tarkasteve@hachyderm.io

              So I recently discovered that a shitpost I made about job titles on the company network is now evidence in a court case. This may be my finest hour.

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              @tarkasteve evidence of what, lol

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              • W whbboyd@infosec.exchange

                @Tubemeister @ingram @tarkasteve "Principal". Other completely meaningless terms I've seen sprinkled into job titles like unbelievably pretentious confetti are "staff" and "distinguished".

                Personally, if anyone foolishly gives me authority over job titles, I'm making "extremely senior engineer"s.

                noratrieb@hachyderm.ioN This user is from outside of this forum
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                @whbboyd @Tubemeister @ingram @tarkasteve Senior Engineer, Senior Senior engineer, Senior Senior Senior Engineer

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                • tarkasteve@hachyderm.ioT tarkasteve@hachyderm.io

                  So I recently discovered that a shitpost I made about job titles on the company network is now evidence in a court case. This may be my finest hour.

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                  @tarkasteve

                  I got fired from a company once and a few months later got a call for my deposition in the shareholder's lawsuit against the company for their assholery. It was great.

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                  • noratrieb@hachyderm.ioN noratrieb@hachyderm.io

                    @whbboyd @Tubemeister @ingram @tarkasteve Senior Engineer, Senior Senior engineer, Senior Senior Senior Engineer

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                    @noratrieb @whbboyd @ingram @tarkasteve At some point you'd just call it "Isambard"

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                    • tubemeister@mstdn.socialT tubemeister@mstdn.social

                      @whbboyd @ingram @tarkasteve I’ve been going by “General Specialist” for a while. 😉

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                      @Tubemeister i have an unreadable paygrade code but my customer-facing title has been "Elder Witch" for a few years now 😁

                      @whbboyd @ingram @tarkasteve

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                      • 3janeta@beige.party3 3janeta@beige.party

                        @Primo @tarkasteve me too

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                        @3janeTA @Primo @tarkasteve
                        Warnie is Shane Warne
                        Boonie is David Boon
                        They were excellent Australian cricketers.
                        You'll never guess who Don Bradman was...

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                        • tomf@mastodon.gamedev.placeT tomf@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          @3janeTA @Primo @tarkasteve
                          Warnie is Shane Warne
                          Boonie is David Boon
                          They were excellent Australian cricketers.
                          You'll never guess who Don Bradman was...

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                          @TomF @Primo @tarkasteve you are correct, I will never guess

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                            @Tubemeister @ingram @tarkasteve "Principal". Other completely meaningless terms I've seen sprinkled into job titles like unbelievably pretentious confetti are "staff" and "distinguished".

                            Personally, if anyone foolishly gives me authority over job titles, I'm making "extremely senior engineer"s.

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                            @whbboyd @Tubemeister @tarkasteve The title inflation got to the point there are now Distinguished Senior Technical Fellows. Because having an office and carpark* as a Senior Tech Fellow wasn't enough.

                            US only. No carparks or offices for Australia

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                            • tubemeister@mstdn.socialT tubemeister@mstdn.social

                              @whbboyd @ingram @tarkasteve I’ve been going by “General Specialist” for a while. 😉

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                              @Tubemeister @whbboyd @tarkasteve Specialist Generalist works for me

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                              • noratrieb@hachyderm.ioN noratrieb@hachyderm.io

                                @whbboyd @Tubemeister @ingram @tarkasteve Senior Engineer, Senior Senior engineer, Senior Senior Senior Engineer

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                                @noratrieb @whbboyd @Tubemeister @tarkasteve Chief Engineers are like that. Is it the Project Chief, the Program Chief, the Division Chief or the Company Chief? I started calling the company chief the "chief chief chief" and it started to stick, to his disgust.

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                                  @Tubemeister @ingram @tarkasteve "Principal". Other completely meaningless terms I've seen sprinkled into job titles like unbelievably pretentious confetti are "staff" and "distinguished".

                                  Personally, if anyone foolishly gives me authority over job titles, I'm making "extremely senior engineer"s.

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                                  @whbboyd @Tubemeister @ingram there were a lot of title changes, but it was changing "principle" to "staff" that was the most egregious, as "staff engineer" just sounds like "general shit-kicker" in Australian. Hence the localisation joke.

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                                    @whbboyd @Tubemeister @ingram there were a lot of title changes, but it was changing "principle" to "staff" that was the most egregious, as "staff engineer" just sounds like "general shit-kicker" in Australian. Hence the localisation joke.

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                                    @tarkasteve @Tubemeister @ingram "Staff" is by far the funniest to me, because "staff engineer" is… uh, pretty poorly-defined, actually (I've never worked a place with "staff" in the standard engineer title hierarchy, but it typically slots in either in place of or above "principal" in the "extremely senior engineer" range), but always a prestigious title, while the term "staff" in *every* other context is dismissive. Your staff is, like, your janitors.

                                    (To be clear, in case it's not, I think this attitude falls somewhere between "ill-advised" and "psychopathic". Your office will stop functioning just as quickly with no janitors as with no white-collar denizens.)

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                                      @tarkasteve @Tubemeister @ingram "Staff" is by far the funniest to me, because "staff engineer" is… uh, pretty poorly-defined, actually (I've never worked a place with "staff" in the standard engineer title hierarchy, but it typically slots in either in place of or above "principal" in the "extremely senior engineer" range), but always a prestigious title, while the term "staff" in *every* other context is dismissive. Your staff is, like, your janitors.

                                      (To be clear, in case it's not, I think this attitude falls somewhere between "ill-advised" and "psychopathic". Your office will stop functioning just as quickly with no janitors as with no white-collar denizens.)

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                                      @whbboyd @tarkasteve @Tubemeister Where I am now "staff" means the doers and not the decision makers (Board, EGMs etc).

                                      I've found US folk get very particular about titles and hierarchy. Their tech gods (Senior Tech Fellows) are not used to being called out by pleb engineers either, which makes it a bit of a sport here. Being competent in more than one area confusing many US eng too.

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                                        @tarkasteve @Tubemeister @ingram "Staff" is by far the funniest to me, because "staff engineer" is… uh, pretty poorly-defined, actually (I've never worked a place with "staff" in the standard engineer title hierarchy, but it typically slots in either in place of or above "principal" in the "extremely senior engineer" range), but always a prestigious title, while the term "staff" in *every* other context is dismissive. Your staff is, like, your janitors.

                                        (To be clear, in case it's not, I think this attitude falls somewhere between "ill-advised" and "psychopathic". Your office will stop functioning just as quickly with no janitors as with no white-collar denizens.)

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                                        @whbboyd @tarkasteve @ingram “staff” is the cleaners indeed where I’m at.

                                        And as a rule of thumb they’re pretty similar to us lot what keeps the servers running in that we’re invisible unless we fuck up or otherwise don’t do our job.

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                                        • ingram@mastodon.socialI ingram@mastodon.social

                                          @whbboyd @tarkasteve @Tubemeister Where I am now "staff" means the doers and not the decision makers (Board, EGMs etc).

                                          I've found US folk get very particular about titles and hierarchy. Their tech gods (Senior Tech Fellows) are not used to being called out by pleb engineers either, which makes it a bit of a sport here. Being competent in more than one area confusing many US eng too.

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                                          @ingram @whbboyd @tarkasteve I’m not even entirely sure what my official title is. Probably something boring like “unix engineer”. Place is too small and flat charted to go full on “special senior fluffer to the fellow” or whatever, and I like it that way.

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