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  • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

    You all know I'm trans. So, I care a LOT about presentation, about how I look and how I'm perceived.

    In a medium that is primarily text-based, I would think it's important to preserve the manner in which the author's text is formatted. ESPECIALLY WHEN THAT AUTHOR IS DESCRIBING THEMSELVES!

    Look, I might as well just change the BIO text field to:

    "See https://lisamelton.net/about/ because Mastodon constrains self expression"

    Am I upset about this issue? Yes! Aren't you?

    2/3

    mathling@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    @lisamelton Yes. It's on mine too. And I don't like it one bit.

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    • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

      @larand Correct. You need the upcoming version of Mastodon to see this.

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      #16

      @lisamelton @larand not sure what triggers that, but it seems to come and go. I noticed it this week, but at this moment I don’t see it. Feature or bug?

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      • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

        Long rant incoming...

        I hadn't looked at the BIO text field of my own Mastodon profile on the Web in quite awhile. Long ago I formatted it with one extra carriage return between each paragraph to increase legibility.

        But now it's rendered as a compressed, hard to read single blob with no vertical spaces. WTF?!?

        Why is Mastodon taking away my agency and butchering my typography? Is this going to happen to our posts next?

        This insulting and unnecessary change needs to be backed out!

        1/3

        metaning@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #17

        @lisamelton tech people ignoring, or disregarding, or not even considering consent. Whoda thunk it.

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        • mcnado@mstdn.socialM mcnado@mstdn.social

          @lisamelton @larand not sure what triggers that, but it seems to come and go. I noticed it this week, but at this moment I don’t see it. Feature or bug?

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          #18

          @mcnado You'll only see it on profiles that are running on the latest version of Maston. That's why it seems inconsistent.

          @larand

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          • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

            @sandorspruit Read the third part of my message.

            sandorspruit@mastodon.nlS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #19

            @lisamelton I did 🙂 My instance is usually fairly quick to update, so I can assure that your instance is not just running an alpha, but probably the first version with this particular change.

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            • sandorspruit@mastodon.nlS sandorspruit@mastodon.nl

              @lisamelton I did 🙂 My instance is usually fairly quick to update, so I can assure that your instance is not just running an alpha, but probably the first version with this particular change.

              vosje62@mastodon.nlV This user is from outside of this forum
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              @sandorspruit @lisamelton Mastodon.social is the only server running nightly versions. (for a very obvious reasons).

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              • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                Long rant incoming...

                I hadn't looked at the BIO text field of my own Mastodon profile on the Web in quite awhile. Long ago I formatted it with one extra carriage return between each paragraph to increase legibility.

                But now it's rendered as a compressed, hard to read single blob with no vertical spaces. WTF?!?

                Why is Mastodon taking away my agency and butchering my typography? Is this going to happen to our posts next?

                This insulting and unnecessary change needs to be backed out!

                1/3

                soundclamp@mastodon.xyzS This user is from outside of this forum
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                @lisamelton Hi Lisa, FWIW it looks okay to me on Ivory.

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                • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                  You all know I'm trans. So, I care a LOT about presentation, about how I look and how I'm perceived.

                  In a medium that is primarily text-based, I would think it's important to preserve the manner in which the author's text is formatted. ESPECIALLY WHEN THAT AUTHOR IS DESCRIBING THEMSELVES!

                  Look, I might as well just change the BIO text field to:

                  "See https://lisamelton.net/about/ because Mastodon constrains self expression"

                  Am I upset about this issue? Yes! Aren't you?

                  2/3

                  cstamp@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #22

                  @lisamelton Oh, crap. I just looked. Oh, crap. It looks crappy. 😞

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                  • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                    If you don't see this behavior in your Mastodon profile, it's probably because you're running an older version of the Web software.

                    I'm on mastodon.social and it's currently running version v4.6.0-alpha.7+pr-38939-5f3002f.

                    Again, because I don't normally look at my own profile, I have no idea when this heinous formatting began in the development process.

                    Because my version is an alpha, I hope that means there's plenty of time for Mastodon to fix this self-inflicted mistake.

                    3/3

                    vor@lgbtqia.spaceV This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @lisamelton

                    I'm using @ivory on iOS and iPadOS.

                    The web version depends on your instance, and what they choose.

                    My gripe with the web versions is that timestamps are differential. I don't want to know how long ago something was posted — I want to know *when* in system time format (I prefer 24-hour time).

                    And yes, I use emdashes. My COMM 1303 instructor was insistent that we learn how to punctuate them correctly, and they've easy using the TypWise keyboard.

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                    • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                      You all know I'm trans. So, I care a LOT about presentation, about how I look and how I'm perceived.

                      In a medium that is primarily text-based, I would think it's important to preserve the manner in which the author's text is formatted. ESPECIALLY WHEN THAT AUTHOR IS DESCRIBING THEMSELVES!

                      Look, I might as well just change the BIO text field to:

                      "See https://lisamelton.net/about/ because Mastodon constrains self expression"

                      Am I upset about this issue? Yes! Aren't you?

                      2/3

                      stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #24

                      @lisamelton Has this been on your radar? Might be worth your time!

                      https://stefanbohacek.online/@stefan/116550886655618589

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                      • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                        Long rant incoming...

                        I hadn't looked at the BIO text field of my own Mastodon profile on the Web in quite awhile. Long ago I formatted it with one extra carriage return between each paragraph to increase legibility.

                        But now it's rendered as a compressed, hard to read single blob with no vertical spaces. WTF?!?

                        Why is Mastodon taking away my agency and butchering my typography? Is this going to happen to our posts next?

                        This insulting and unnecessary change needs to be backed out!

                        1/3

                        regordane@mastodon.me.ukR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #25

                        @lisamelton

                        I'm not seeing this for reasons which you have explained.

                        But yeah, I understand why you're furious

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                        • soundclamp@mastodon.xyzS soundclamp@mastodon.xyz

                          @lisamelton Hi Lisa, FWIW it looks okay to me on Ivory.

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                          @soundclamp Thanks. Read the third part of my message.

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                          • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                            Long rant incoming...

                            I hadn't looked at the BIO text field of my own Mastodon profile on the Web in quite awhile. Long ago I formatted it with one extra carriage return between each paragraph to increase legibility.

                            But now it's rendered as a compressed, hard to read single blob with no vertical spaces. WTF?!?

                            Why is Mastodon taking away my agency and butchering my typography? Is this going to happen to our posts next?

                            This insulting and unnecessary change needs to be backed out!

                            1/3

                            clanger9@mastodon.onlineC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #27

                            @lisamelton
                            Ugh, this is annoying!
                            I too had my bio nicely spaced with line breaks for readability. Now the spaces are gone 😖

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                            • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                              @lisamelton Oh, crap. I just looked. Oh, crap. It looks crappy. 😞

                              cstamp@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @lisamelton What’s weird, if I go to Edit, it displays aa it’s supposed to. If I add a double space, it doesn’t affect the removing of spacing when I click done. (Obviously talking about my bio.)

                              I hope it’s a temp thing, just a bug.

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                              • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                                @lisamelton Has this been on your radar? Might be worth your time!

                                https://stefanbohacek.online/@stefan/116550886655618589

                                lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #29

                                @stefan Yes. @Gargron even invited me. But the one session I wanted to and could attend was already full. So, no joy for me.

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                                • vor@lgbtqia.spaceV vor@lgbtqia.space

                                  @lisamelton

                                  I'm using @ivory on iOS and iPadOS.

                                  The web version depends on your instance, and what they choose.

                                  My gripe with the web versions is that timestamps are differential. I don't want to know how long ago something was posted — I want to know *when* in system time format (I prefer 24-hour time).

                                  And yes, I use emdashes. My COMM 1303 instructor was insistent that we learn how to punctuate them correctly, and they've easy using the TypWise keyboard.

                                  vor@lgbtqia.spaceV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @lisamelton @ivory

                                  This is what I see on my iPhone.

                                  If you are here to say she's doing it wrong, leave now.

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                                  • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                                    @lisamelton What’s weird, if I go to Edit, it displays aa it’s supposed to. If I add a double space, it doesn’t affect the removing of spacing when I click done. (Obviously talking about my bio.)

                                    I hope it’s a temp thing, just a bug.

                                    lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #31

                                    @CStamp Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure it's intentional foolishness.

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                                    • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                      @stefan Yes. @Gargron even invited me. But the one session I wanted to and could attend was already full. So, no joy for me.

                                      stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @lisamelton Ah, that's a shame. The team would really benefit from having you included!

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                                      • vor@lgbtqia.spaceV vor@lgbtqia.space

                                        @lisamelton @ivory

                                        This is what I see on my iPhone.

                                        If you are here to say she's doing it wrong, leave now.

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                                        @vor Yes, that's because Ivory is not the Web software. As I mentioned in my post.

                                        @ivory

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                                        • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                          You all know I'm trans. So, I care a LOT about presentation, about how I look and how I'm perceived.

                                          In a medium that is primarily text-based, I would think it's important to preserve the manner in which the author's text is formatted. ESPECIALLY WHEN THAT AUTHOR IS DESCRIBING THEMSELVES!

                                          Look, I might as well just change the BIO text field to:

                                          "See https://lisamelton.net/about/ because Mastodon constrains self expression"

                                          Am I upset about this issue? Yes! Aren't you?

                                          2/3

                                          moss@kind.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #34

                                          @lisamelton Accessibility hell to boot!! I hope they fix it asap, it seems such a silly choice

                                          ⁃ Person whose bio is bullet points

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