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  • davidcelis@xoxo.zoneD davidcelis@xoxo.zone

    these people have basically become addicted to gambling. think about it: they pour money into tokens, obsess about that leading to a good result, keep spending until (and then well after) that happens, all while never being able to stop themselves from thinking about it. AI’s a slot machine.

    https://bsky.app/profile/timkellogg.me/post/3mevhhd4lbs2b

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    @davidcelis not understanding the context of the reposted post, I went through so many emotions reading this:

    1. “agents” in first sentence, oh he must be an ICE agent and wants to get back to his buddy. Why is David posting positively about ICE agents?
    2. “checking the progress of their agents” oh no that’s not right, this isn’t about ICE agents, it’s about anti-ICE agent protests and tracking ICE movements.
    3. “The buzz they want runs on tokens” oh I’m completely wrong. Now it all makes sense

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    • royal@xoxo.zoneR royal@xoxo.zone

      @davidcelis not understanding the context of the reposted post, I went through so many emotions reading this:

      1. “agents” in first sentence, oh he must be an ICE agent and wants to get back to his buddy. Why is David posting positively about ICE agents?
      2. “checking the progress of their agents” oh no that’s not right, this isn’t about ICE agents, it’s about anti-ICE agent protests and tracking ICE movements.
      3. “The buzz they want runs on tokens” oh I’m completely wrong. Now it all makes sense

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      @royal i’m confused about the first one though because none of what i wrote in response was positive?

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      • davidcelis@xoxo.zoneD davidcelis@xoxo.zone

        these people have basically become addicted to gambling. think about it: they pour money into tokens, obsess about that leading to a good result, keep spending until (and then well after) that happens, all while never being able to stop themselves from thinking about it. AI’s a slot machine.

        https://bsky.app/profile/timkellogg.me/post/3mevhhd4lbs2b

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        @davidcelis what are these people even "making" i wonder

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        • annika@xoxo.zoneA annika@xoxo.zone

          @davidcelis what are these people even "making" i wonder

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          @annika they’re almost always just cloning apps that already exist, like Notion

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          • davidcelis@xoxo.zoneD davidcelis@xoxo.zone

            @royal i’m confused about the first one though because none of what i wrote in response was positive?

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            @davidcelis I hadn’t read your comment at all yet — was trying to understand the reposted post first before reading your insights.

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            • davidcelis@xoxo.zoneD davidcelis@xoxo.zone

              @annika they’re almost always just cloning apps that already exist, like Notion

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              @davidcelis @annika Wild how dystopian that thread is, and the idea that they're just copy/pasting the same bullshit apps cranks that up to 11. They're doing all this to create absolutely nothing new?

              There's something to be said about creating your own app vs renting it from someone else, but by the time they've paid for all the tokens to "create it themselves", I'm having trouble imagining it's the better choice.

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              • davidcelis@xoxo.zoneD davidcelis@xoxo.zone

                @annika they’re almost always just cloning apps that already exist, like Notion

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                @davidcelis @annika Wondering the same. Where is the revolutionarily useful product of all of this? Seems a lot like a very expensive anti-social circle jerk.

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                • davidcelis@xoxo.zoneD davidcelis@xoxo.zone

                  these people have basically become addicted to gambling. think about it: they pour money into tokens, obsess about that leading to a good result, keep spending until (and then well after) that happens, all while never being able to stop themselves from thinking about it. AI’s a slot machine.

                  https://bsky.app/profile/timkellogg.me/post/3mevhhd4lbs2b

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                  @davidcelis @cstross I don’t think the people who discovered offshoring were quite as giddy but what we have now is pretty similar in output.

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                  • davidcelis@xoxo.zoneD davidcelis@xoxo.zone

                    these people have basically become addicted to gambling. think about it: they pour money into tokens, obsess about that leading to a good result, keep spending until (and then well after) that happens, all while never being able to stop themselves from thinking about it. AI’s a slot machine.

                    https://bsky.app/profile/timkellogg.me/post/3mevhhd4lbs2b

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                    @davidcelis One of the comments over there nails it: “a miserable shell of an existence”. Ugh.

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                    • jamie@zomglol.wtfJ jamie@zomglol.wtf

                      @davidcelis @annika Wild how dystopian that thread is, and the idea that they're just copy/pasting the same bullshit apps cranks that up to 11. They're doing all this to create absolutely nothing new?

                      There's something to be said about creating your own app vs renting it from someone else, but by the time they've paid for all the tokens to "create it themselves", I'm having trouble imagining it's the better choice.

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                      @jamie @davidcelis @annika To be fair, having your own Notion that is different in that one way you wanted forever and being able to change it for yourself is extremely intoxicating.

                      Let’s not forget how each of us copied their first piece of code from a book/journal/forum ran it and it worked. I remember that moment to this day. Right there I knew I’m hooked. When I started changing those small programs on my own and they worked… oof. I can be honest and say I’m addicted. To this day I’m chasing the zone and whet it hits just right that’s the stuff. Even when I’m burnt out I can’t put it down for long. I can be burned down on a job or a project but—so far—not programming.

                      So I get how it can be addictive.

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