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Yes, we probably should begin to reframe our opposition to the fascist regime in terms of civil defense rather than protest.

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  • nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchangeN nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchange

    Yes, we probably should begin to reframe our opposition to the fascist regime in terms of civil defense rather than protest. We are the defenders of the Constitution now. The federal govt is the domestic enemy of the United States of America. #fasicsm

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    I've taken this oath many times and in reflection on what it means under an authoritarian regime in which all branches of government are failing to uphold their oaths, and are in fact extremely damaging the people, and the welfare of the nation as a whole in literally all pillars of national security, the word "protest" doesn't encompass the gravity of what is required of us. We may perform the same actions, of course, but we need to place them in the mental framework of civil defense. We are defending the Constitution against an unquestionable domestic enemy.

    I, (name) do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me god. (Optional)

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      I've taken this oath many times and in reflection on what it means under an authoritarian regime in which all branches of government are failing to uphold their oaths, and are in fact extremely damaging the people, and the welfare of the nation as a whole in literally all pillars of national security, the word "protest" doesn't encompass the gravity of what is required of us. We may perform the same actions, of course, but we need to place them in the mental framework of civil defense. We are defending the Constitution against an unquestionable domestic enemy.

      I, (name) do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me god. (Optional)

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      @Nonya_Bidniss i get intensely annoyed when i hear that oath mindlessly repeated by newly appointed officials and similar. Screaming inside: none of you are doing that!

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      • nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchangeN nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchange

        I've taken this oath many times and in reflection on what it means under an authoritarian regime in which all branches of government are failing to uphold their oaths, and are in fact extremely damaging the people, and the welfare of the nation as a whole in literally all pillars of national security, the word "protest" doesn't encompass the gravity of what is required of us. We may perform the same actions, of course, but we need to place them in the mental framework of civil defense. We are defending the Constitution against an unquestionable domestic enemy.

        I, (name) do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me god. (Optional)

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        I don't think leaving office means one's oath no longer matters. If a person lives within its umbrella for many years it becomes enmeshed in their sense of self. And for those who never took that oath, I would recommend saying it to yourself and considering the "office" to mean one's social contract.

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        • h2onolan@infosec.exchangeH h2onolan@infosec.exchange

          @Nonya_Bidniss i get intensely annoyed when i hear that oath mindlessly repeated by newly appointed officials and similar. Screaming inside: none of you are doing that!

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          @h2onolan They don't mean it, or understand it, or to the extent that they do, they hold a completely different vision of what the U.S. is, and they believe (rightly) that they're building that evil vision.

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          • nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchangeN nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchange

            I don't think leaving office means one's oath no longer matters. If a person lives within its umbrella for many years it becomes enmeshed in their sense of self. And for those who never took that oath, I would recommend saying it to yourself and considering the "office" to mean one's social contract.

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            @Nonya_Bidniss

            Was only with the Federal government for a couple of years. I planned to be in much longer, but I got sick. Had to leave, but it was an honor to be a part of the mission.

            That oath matters. And you can be damn sure I will abide by it until the end of my days.

            #Resist

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            • nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchangeN nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchange

              Yes, we probably should begin to reframe our opposition to the fascist regime in terms of civil defense rather than protest. We are the defenders of the Constitution now. The federal govt is the domestic enemy of the United States of America. #fasicsm

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              @Nonya_Bidniss

              The Constitution sucks

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              • nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchangeN nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchange

                @h2onolan They don't mean it, or understand it, or to the extent that they do, they hold a completely different vision of what the U.S. is, and they believe (rightly) that they're building that evil vision.

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                @Nonya_Bidniss aye. It is instructive to keep that project in mind. What they want is to install themselves as slaveholding aristocrats with divine authority

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                • richpuchalsky@mastodon.socialR richpuchalsky@mastodon.social

                  @Nonya_Bidniss

                  The Constitution sucks

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                  @richpuchalsky@mastodon.social I invite you to never be able to see my posts again. Enjoy!

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                  • nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchangeN nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchange

                    Yes, we probably should begin to reframe our opposition to the fascist regime in terms of civil defense rather than protest. We are the defenders of the Constitution now. The federal govt is the domestic enemy of the United States of America. #fasicsm

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                    @Nonya_Bidniss
                    I feel we need to understand that there is the federal government that we created with the constitution and then there is the folk that we hire to operate our government.

                    We are now in a situation that domestic enemies of the USA have been hired or elected to operate the government. It is those folks that we must hold accountable and remove from office.
                    The USA has a good system of government when honorable folks are in power.

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                    • nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchangeN nonya_bidniss@infosec.exchange

                      I don't think leaving office means one's oath no longer matters. If a person lives within its umbrella for many years it becomes enmeshed in their sense of self. And for those who never took that oath, I would recommend saying it to yourself and considering the "office" to mean one's social contract.

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                      @Nonya_Bidniss
                      iz a funny thing:

                      been de-briefed out of clearances, ie no longer cleared, but restrictions on disclosure remain in (full) force

                      have sworn or affirmed blah blah constitution greater-than once:

                      at no point has anyone/anything released me from the bond of my sworn word.

                      that's not a thing

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