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are there any actually decent XMPP clients on iOS?

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  • packetcat@tenforward.socialP packetcat@tenforward.social

    are there any actually decent XMPP clients on iOS?

    and by decent I mean supporting push notifications.

    compufox@social.computerfox.xyzC This user is from outside of this forum
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    @packetcat i’ve been using Siskin IM but it kinda sucks.

    and i think i have used Monal in the past and i might be switching back to it since it’s under more active development and hopefully doesnt Suck as much.

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    • packetcat@tenforward.socialP packetcat@tenforward.social

      are there any actually decent XMPP clients on iOS?

      and by decent I mean supporting push notifications.

      packetcat@tenforward.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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      I was looking at the list of XEPs supported by Prosody (XMPP server software) and one of them is the relatively new (2020) XEP-0357: Push Notifications

      XEP-0357: Push Notifications

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      (xmpp.org)

      which is in this module

      mod_cloud_notify – Prosody IM

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      (prosody.im)

      which says

      "Some clients, notably Siskin and Snikket iOS need some additional extensions that are not currently defined in a standard XEP. To support these clients, see mod_cloud_notify_extensions."

      so it seems a couple clients do

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      • packetcat@tenforward.socialP packetcat@tenforward.social

        are there any actually decent XMPP clients on iOS?

        and by decent I mean supporting push notifications.

        rrgeorge@raphus.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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        @packetcat I use Monal
        @Monal
        I don’t really have any contacts on xmpp, but in testing it works well for me.

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        • rrgeorge@raphus.socialR rrgeorge@raphus.social

          @packetcat I use Monal
          @Monal
          I don’t really have any contacts on xmpp, but in testing it works well for me.

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          @packetcat they have a good guide for prosody requirements: https://github.com/monal-im/Monal/wiki/Considerations-for-XMPP-server-admins#prosody

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          • packetcat@tenforward.socialP packetcat@tenforward.social

            I was looking at the list of XEPs supported by Prosody (XMPP server software) and one of them is the relatively new (2020) XEP-0357: Push Notifications

            XEP-0357: Push Notifications

            favicon

            (xmpp.org)

            which is in this module

            mod_cloud_notify – Prosody IM

            favicon

            (prosody.im)

            which says

            "Some clients, notably Siskin and Snikket iOS need some additional extensions that are not currently defined in a standard XEP. To support these clients, see mod_cloud_notify_extensions."

            so it seems a couple clients do

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            I'm on the OMEMO website and uh people used to use OpenPGP to do E2E messaging for XMPP?! god that sounds hideous

            I don't even know wtf "OX" is, I've only ever used OTR and OMEMO in the distant past when I used XMPP

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            OMEMO Multi-End Message and Object Encryption

            An XMPP Extension Protocol based on a Double Ratchet and PEP which can be freely used and implemented by anyone. The protocol has been audited by a third party.

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            • packetcat@tenforward.socialP packetcat@tenforward.social

              I'm on the OMEMO website and uh people used to use OpenPGP to do E2E messaging for XMPP?! god that sounds hideous

              I don't even know wtf "OX" is, I've only ever used OTR and OMEMO in the distant past when I used XMPP

              Link Preview Image
              OMEMO Multi-End Message and Object Encryption

              An XMPP Extension Protocol based on a Double Ratchet and PEP which can be freely used and implemented by anyone. The protocol has been audited by a third party.

              favicon

              (conversations.im)

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              "The Jabber community has long acknowledged the need for privacy and security features in a well-rounded instant messaging system. Unfortunately, finding a consensus solution to the problem of end-to-end encryption during the community's younger days was not easy. Eventually, early contributors created a quick solution using OpenPGP (RFC 4880 [1])."

              XEP-0027: Current Jabber OpenPGP Usage

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              ...Jabber now that's a name I haven't heard in a loooooong time

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              • packetcat@tenforward.socialP packetcat@tenforward.social

                "The Jabber community has long acknowledged the need for privacy and security features in a well-rounded instant messaging system. Unfortunately, finding a consensus solution to the problem of end-to-end encryption during the community's younger days was not easy. Eventually, early contributors created a quick solution using OpenPGP (RFC 4880 [1])."

                XEP-0027: Current Jabber OpenPGP Usage

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                (xmpp.org)

                ...Jabber now that's a name I haven't heard in a loooooong time

                packetcat@tenforward.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                Jabber is honestly a more normie friendly name

                "XMPP" sounds like some computer bullshit, like even as far as computer acronyms go its not a good one

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                • packetcat@tenforward.socialP packetcat@tenforward.social

                  Jabber is honestly a more normie friendly name

                  "XMPP" sounds like some computer bullshit, like even as far as computer acronyms go its not a good one

                  nivex@tenforward.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @packetcat Right? We don't call it SMTP we call it e-mail.

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                  • packetcat@tenforward.socialP packetcat@tenforward.social

                    Jabber is honestly a more normie friendly name

                    "XMPP" sounds like some computer bullshit, like even as far as computer acronyms go its not a good one

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                    @packetcat ngl, when i started seeing “xmpp,” my brain filed it away as a synonym and kept on pronouncing it as “jabber”

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                    • packetcat@tenforward.socialP packetcat@tenforward.social

                      Jabber is honestly a more normie friendly name

                      "XMPP" sounds like some computer bullshit, like even as far as computer acronyms go its not a good one

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                      #11

                      @packetcat "peepee" is rarely marketable outside of very specific circles

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